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Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
Speaking of Star Wars, this thread's a read that soundly explains why meeting on a Star Wars online forum might get you in an abusive relationship, and also captured by the taliban (really)

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Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
Star wars and star trek aged badly because of the nerds they created.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

OutOfPrint posted:

I once had an argument with my old gaming group's GM about how you could take the script from Star Wars, set it in the golden age of piracy, and the only change you'd need to make is saying islands instead of planets. That was part of a longer argument than genre and setting are largely disconnected, with my point being that genre is more about tone and action than trappings. Playing with different combinations of genres and trappings is a hell of a lot of fun in table top RPG's, which is why I always wanted to run a big standard D&D type fantasy game only to have it be interrupted by a full-fledged alien invasion for some dragon vs. UFO action.

How are they gonna literally blow up a whole island?

Also the WW1 dogfighting/trench run also wouldn't work.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

GoutPatrol posted:

How are they gonna literally blow up a whole island?

Also the WW1 dogfighting/trench run also wouldn't work.

I don't know how you'd do it, but I'm a lot more interested to see someone try than I am interested in a new Star Wars movie.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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It would have been a big ship they blew up instead of the death star. And they could have burned down the entire island/town instead of blowing up a planet.

OutOfPrint
Apr 9, 2009

Fun Shoe

GoutPatrol posted:

How are they gonna literally blow up a whole island?

Pirate magic, burning down a village as previously mentioned, gunpowder catapult, a big rear end cannon.

GoutPatrol posted:

Also the WW1 dogfighting/trench run also wouldn't work.

Make the death star a floating artificial island with a bunch of waterways and gaps between platforms and x-wings and TIE fighters little one man skippers and you could have a trench run on the water running to Death Island's gunpowder store. You'd lose a dimension, but could still have a thrilling scene.

Just don't think too hard about the racial implications of jawas and, really, any alien in the series.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Der Kyhe posted:

Was it ever explained what history Guinan and Q had with each other, and why Q was tiptoeing around her?
I just figured it was writers that weren't sure exactly what the story was, dropping hints that Guinan was more than they perceived, but being vague enough that they could fix it later.

Really, the big takeaway there ends up being she's met/known about Q for a while.

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





the other Q seem less like sci-fi lokis who revel in screwing with tiny mortals and more like... guardians seemingly preserving some order? i mean they made Q briefly mortal for some transgression

i wouldn't be surprised if guinan, somewhere in her long years, managed to get a q-continum restraining order against him and is able to banish him with a single gesture

Pick posted:

Speaking of Star Wars, this thread's a read that soundly explains why meeting on a Star Wars online forum might get you in an abusive relationship, and also captured by the taliban (really)

:stonklol:

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Pick posted:

Speaking of Star Wars, this thread's a read that soundly explains why meeting on a Star Wars online forum might get you in an abusive relationship, and also captured by the taliban (really)

What the actual gently caress :stonk:

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

hard counter posted:

the other Q seem less like sci-fi lokis who revel in screwing with tiny mortals and more like... guardians seemingly preserving some order? i mean they made Q briefly mortal for some transgression

i wouldn't be surprised if guinan, somewhere in her long years, managed to get a q-continum restraining order against him and is able to banish him with a single gesture

They're not deliberately maintaining some galactic order they're just not bothering to change the fundamental rules. The insistence is that the rules only change when somebody powerful enough to change them actually does it which is usually a Q. The Q are portrayed as both few in number and completely apathetic. They don't care enough to keep the order; they're just the only things actually powerful enough to change the rules and never bother. They keep an eye out for anything that could potentially threaten them when they can be bothered to pay attention at all but only the Q that Picard encountered seemed to actually be paying any sort of attention. Since they've already seen, done, and discussed everything there's just nothing left for them. The other suggestion is that the Q are the assumed end result for the evolution of all life. If a life form becomes sentient then develops its society and technology long enough they'll eventually end up almost exactly like the Q. They consider their being "pure" and lock away dissidents as dissidents are dangerous thanks to just how powerful the Q are.

However the Q are also are portrayed as timeless creatures that have just always existed so there's that question of did they transcend reality entirely to the point that time quit having meaning or is it possible for them to actually die? The Q while they are Q are immortal but Q can also be turned into mortal humanoids. A lot of stuff about them was left horribly vague, mysterious, and unexplained; I figure that's probably on purpose. Of course it's also possible that the Q are actually only one creature and the Q Continuum is the actual Q. Maybe God is real in Star Trek but incredibly loving bored which leads to tossing things that call themselves "Q" into the galaxy to stir things up.

In any event the Q that Picard encountered started causing poo poo in the galaxy pretty much out of phenomenal cosmic boredom. Q society had gone totally stagnant to the point that the Q didn't even communicate with each other anymore so Q decided to start stirring up the pot. The Q that became Quinn decided that he was going to stir poo poo up even further by killing himself.

ToxicSlurpee has a new favorite as of 03:43 on Sep 8, 2019

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


hard counter posted:

the other Q seem less like sci-fi lokis who revel in screwing with tiny mortals and more like... guardians seemingly preserving some order? i mean they made Q briefly mortal for some transgression

The thing is though, there's no way to verify anything that Q says about himself. It might not even be the same person showing up each time. Or the other Qs might also be him. The conflict we see between Q and the other Qs could be staged. When he was punished by being turned human, maybe that was just him loving around or testing Picard in some way or whatever. The scope of his abilities make it impossible to know if anything is as it seems or is even real. There is no way to draw any meaningful conclusion about Q or the Q continuum other than that some being exists and is more powerful than you can imagine. Its nature and motives are impossible to determine.

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

OutOfPrint posted:

Make the death star a floating artificial island with a bunch of waterways and gaps between platforms and x-wings and TIE fighters little one man skippers and you could have a trench run on the water running to Death Island's gunpowder store. You'd lose a dimension, but could still have a thrilling scene.
I like this Waterworld reboot.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
One Piece has a surprisingly grounded example of the naval equivalent of the nuclear option; just surround an island with battleships and carpet-bomb every square inch of it until not a single brick remains standing atop another, and it's an order that once given cannot be revoked.

slinkimalinki
Jan 17, 2010

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Where does that put Pern?

Never occurred to me before that it's only one letter away from porn.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

It's even more complicated when you consider that girl who was half Q because her father was a rogue Q who went to earth and started a family. The other Q made a tornado out of nowhere to kill her parents and John Delancie Q implied that they were going to off her too if he couldn't teach her to control her powers

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
That sounds like a superhero origin story.

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

GoutPatrol posted:

How are they gonna literally blow up a whole island?

Also the WW1 dogfighting/trench run also wouldn't work.

Same way nature does it, drop a lake into the volcano powering everything. This combined with a dam and presto, Caribbean wars script which writes itself.

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Oct 15, 2012

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Biscuit Hider
Ok smart guy, Hoth.

buddhist nudist
May 16, 2019

christmas boots posted:

Ok smart guy, Hoth.

Some parts of Earth are cold.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
Ice pirates.

And suddenly Han has space herpes.

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Oct 15, 2012

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To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
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Biscuit Hider

buddhist nudist posted:

Some parts of Earth are cold.

Yeah but no AT-ATs unless you replace with Mammoth which would be highly anachronistic

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
Hannibal crossed the Alps in 218 BCE with 37 elephants.

Edit: holy poo poo


:3:

Beachcomber has a new favorite as of 20:14 on Sep 9, 2019

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Beachcomber posted:

Hannibal crossed the Alps in 218 BCE with 37 elephants.

Edit: holy poo poo


:3:

Granted, I've not seen a lot of elephant clothes in my life time, but those are the worst elephant clothes I've seen to date. That elephant looks ridiculous. Ridiculous.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Solice Kirsk posted:

Granted, I've not seen a lot of elephant clothes in my life time, but those are the worst elephant clothes I've seen to date. That elephant looks ridiculous. Ridiculous.

He looks like ELMER how dare you

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Solice Kirsk posted:

Granted, I've not seen a lot of elephant clothes in my life time, but those are the worst elephant clothes I've seen to date. That elephant looks ridiculous. Ridiculous.

elephant will remember this.

buddhist nudist
May 16, 2019

christmas boots posted:

Yeah but no AT-ATs unless you replace with Mammoth which would be highly anachronistic

Big slow boats you send small nimble boats at. Literally every imperial defeat.

It's boats all the way down.

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





what are droids in this analogy :smith:

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

hard counter posted:

what are droids in this analogy :smith:

Also boats, but the ones you put in a bottle

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



hard counter posted:

what are droids in this analogy :smith:

One of like 5 people with the freakish ability to read and write? Otherwise there be monsters thataway, and they be us :(

SatansOnion
Dec 12, 2011

Solice Kirsk posted:

Granted, I've not seen a lot of elephant clothes in my life time, but those are the worst elephant clothes I've seen to date. That elephant looks ridiculous. Ridiculous.

my dude, that is stylish everyday elephantwear in that particular bit of India, and imo it is crushing it :cool:

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!
Droids are the trained monkeys and parrots that perch on captains' shoulders.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



I always considered the Death Star analog to be a castle, since, at its core, it's a story about a young knight going to rescue a princess held prisoner by a black knight.

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



But we’ve already had a mobile oppression palace!

https://www.theinfosphere.org/Mobile_Oppression_Palace

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

hard counter posted:

what are droids in this analogy :smith:

“Goodness, Captain Solo! It is I, Sea Threpio. You probably don’t recognize me because of the red peg leg.”

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
Surprisingly Google images isn't delivering very much when I ask it for castles that are also boats. I think we've found an untapped genre

wizzardstaff
Apr 6, 2018

Zorch! Splat! Pow!

christmas boots posted:

Surprisingly Google images isn't delivering very much when I ask it for castles that are also boats. I think we've found an untapped genre

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

The Death Star has to be at least three times bigger than this!

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
What is this, a Death Star for ants?

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
That thing looks fun as hell but I can already tell from how they’re balancing the weight on every side that it’s probably annoying to actually get on

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Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Solice Kirsk posted:

Granted, I've not seen a lot of elephant clothes in my life time, but those are the worst elephant clothes I've seen to date. That elephant looks ridiculous. Ridiculous.

We were playing a tabletop rpg once and one of the players was just a rich rear end in a top hat. And it was established that he had enough money to buy an elephant because 193x elephants were probably affordable. A few bluff checks later we were looking into buying a yacht for his formal elephant (he was now up to 3)

One Google search later we discovered formal elephants existed

https://www.gettyimages.ie/detail/video/elephant-in-tuxedo-walking-on-hind-legs-short-stock-video-footage/498-462

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