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Jordan7hm posted:I think it's messed up to say a woman signing a contract and getting pregnant is somehow a grift. otoh grifting Vince McMahon is never bad.
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Schneider Heim posted:Could anyone tell me more about Bob Sapp? I understand that he became quite popular in Japan... was he legit good? He mostly looked goofy to me. Sapp's K-1 career was a sick joke where the company heavily promoted and protected him. They put him up against guys half his size, some of them barely-trained pro wrestlers or washed-up guys like Kimo Leopoldo. A lot of his fights were refereed by Kakuda Nobuaki, who would let him get away with fouling to the point that he won matches doing it. He scored knockdowns by rushing, hit grounded opponents, threw punches after the bell, and rabbit punched whenever he got the chance. That's how he beat Ernesto Hoost twice. Then Cro Cop broke his face. High-level guys figured out that Sapp couldn't really box and couldn't really take a hit--you just had to be able to dodge 300 pounds of muscle and bone running at you. Since the end of his K-1 heyday, he's enjoyed a long career of taking an occasional fight that turns out to be a big disappointment when he gives up in the first round the first time he gets hit hard. Throughout this whole time he was also doing MMA fights. The details of that aren't as interesting--he mostly either ground-and-pounded much smaller guys, or got beaten by someone who was actually good and could deal with his size and power. Early on, he put in a highlight reel performance against Nogueira by countering a takedown with a piledriver and countering triangle attempts with slams. He took Jerome Le Banner to a draw in a weird mixed rules match, and beat a washed-up and cash-strapped Akebono in a record-drawing K-1 match. He beat Akebono again in a MMA match in 2015, and beat Osunaarashi last year. Those are his best performances against legit athletes. Since his K-1 heyday he got a reputation for taking an occasional fight and pretty much throwing it in the first round. He denies throwing fights, but admits that he's not going to get hurt for small paydays. I don't know why any promotion would want to give him a pile of money to tap out in 2 minutes, but if they're dumb enough to pay him, good on him for taking the money. Despite being a bust as a real athletic prospect, he was incredibly over in Japan. Way more popular than genuine champion-level contenders like Cro Cop, and well into being a mainstream celebrity. He knew how to promote himself, and I think he knew he wasn't ever going to become a champion fighter. I honestly can't tell you a lot about his wrestling career. I've seen a few of his matches and they're...okay. He has a talent for playing the monster heel, but he gasses out just as quickly as he did as a pro fighter, after which he appears to be moving in slow-motion.
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Jordan7hm posted:I think it's messed up to say a woman signing a contract and getting pregnant is somehow a grift. No no, she didn't sign a contract and get pregnant. She got pregnant, then entered into contract negotiations without telling them she was pregnant, got the guaranteed money and then revealed it. THAT is the grift, and it owns.
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Sep 18, 2019 08:29
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that’s still not a grift but it does own because it will have made Vince really mad
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Sep 18, 2019 08:53
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The pregnancy has resulted in way more TV time for Mike than he was getting, so maybe she's just a genius.
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Aphrodite posted:The pregnancy has resulted in way more TV time for Mike than he was getting, so maybe she's just a genius. This feels especially poetic since WWE wasn't shy about portraying her as a ditz
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Is that the same Maria that Mick Foley had a problem with? I never read his third book and didn't pay attention to TNA or anything at the time, what was with that whole debacle? Anyone?
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Sep 18, 2019 16:09
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I don't remember Mick having a problem with any Maria. I also don't know how many other Marias are in wrestling.
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Sep 18, 2019 16:28
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Maybe it was Melina. She refused to have sex witgh Mick Foley even though he called her beautiful, which really got his goat
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Cavauro posted:Maybe it was Melina. She refused to have sex witgh Mick Foley even though he called her beautiful, which really got his goat Oh yeah, Melina, I'm sorry. I got the two confused. I just remember people talking about how they lost a lot of respect for Foley because of what happened with her and how he gets really creepy about it in his third book. I've just never seen it explained beyond what I've already typed, so I was wondering if someone could elaborate.
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Didn't Bret Hart refer to Melina as one of the top wrestlers in the world at some point? What is it with old legend dudes and Melina. The Melina/Foley thing at least crossed over to the on-screen product a bit, as it was a focal point of the ill-conceived 2006 Foley vs Flair feud 
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Jerusalem posted:No no, she didn't sign a contract and get pregnant. She got pregnant, then entered into contract negotiations without telling them she was pregnant, got the guaranteed money and then revealed it. THAT is the grift, and it owns.
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who has the best rear end in wrestling? would you guys be interested in having a Best Wrestling rear end voting tournament? please nominate people for the upcoming tournament.
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Drew McIntyre posted:who has the best rear end in wrestling? would you guys be interested in having a Best Wrestling rear end voting tournament? please nominate people for the upcoming tournament. 
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Drew McIntyre posted:who has the best rear end in wrestling? would you guys be interested in having a Best Wrestling rear end voting tournament? please nominate people for the upcoming tournament. 
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Drew McIntyre posted:who has the best rear end in wrestling? would you guys be interested in having a Best Wrestling rear end voting tournament? please nominate people for the upcoming tournament. Do valets count? Because at the risk of being cancelled from the New Japan thread, I'd have to go with a non-joke answer and say Pieter.
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thanks guys, this is going to be an intergender tournament and i don't really have a good perspective on which men have attractive asses. this helps a lot. i'd like to have 32 men and 32 women for the tournament. this will span all of wrestling history, and not just the current timeframe, so if you know any good vintage asses, like Mr. rear end, you can nominate them. valets and managers count, referees count, anyone on tv who isn't a guest. i guess it will be The Best rear end in Wrestling Tournament and not necessarily The Best Wrestler rear end. and looking back that is how i worded it originally. thanks for your support.
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Sep 19, 2019 01:14
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You should probably make a separate topic for that.
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Sep 19, 2019 01:41
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Has anyone since late 90s/early 2000s Booker T used the missile dropkick consistently? I can't remember the last time I saw a dropkick like his, tonnes of top rope shotgun dropkicks though and standing dropkicks but nothing like Booker T's awesome heatseeker.
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Sep 19, 2019 08:40
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drat john has to wear the baggiest possible jorts to be kid friendly, clearly.
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Sep 19, 2019 08:42
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Drew McIntyre posted:would you guys be interested in having a Best Wrestling rear end voting tournament? No.
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Sep 19, 2019 08:51
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J-Ru is just trying to get nominated.
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Sep 19, 2019 08:57
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It’s clearly Sonny Kiss end topic.
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it looks like most people are interested in having the tournament, i will think of 64 people in wrestling with the best asses, but please keep leaving suggestions in this thread until i post the tournament. don't stop giving me suggestions until then.
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Big Daddy V sorry, just realized it's not an all-time tournament. Big Daddy V died after farting really big and bad on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmJTzPy8L5E
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Drew McIntyre posted:it looks like most people are interested in having the tournament, i will think of 64 people in wrestling with the best asses, but please keep leaving suggestions in this thread until i post the tournament. don't stop giving me suggestions until then.
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jesus WEP posted:i already told you who the best one is so the tournament will be a waste of time aren't you interested in seeing how everyone does in the tournament? tournaments like this are a good way to build forum morale. and it is a Best rear end of All Time Tournament, Cavauro, don't worry.
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i don’t care about 63 inferior asses no
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Cheex. i'll be posting more nominations later
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Does anyone have a clip to the Youtube where Beau James uses the worst armbar finisher in history?
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Punch McLightning posted:Does anyone have a clip to the Youtube where Beau James uses the worst armbar finisher in history? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbbUnTYS7zY
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lol what the gently caress is this, does this guy own this rinky dink company? thats the only thing that possibly makes sense.
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the commentator is better than anybody in the wwe right now
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Are people running "roleplaying" fake Twitter accounts for wrestlers really just eFedding?
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God bless you. The commentator is actually... good? He could have fit in on a WCW C show in 93 or something.
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shiksa posted:lol what the gently caress is this, does this guy own this rinky dink company? thats the only thing that possibly makes sense. Correct! The other clips I have of SSW are even less professional. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhdessO5fQc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NllxbFa5BU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl2rWiYfVgI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNAuK7lCHOc
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Does anyone have the beboo crawshanks story on standby? Can't find it on Google for some reason
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What's the heat between New Japan and The Elite? Is it because the Elite all jumped ship in January? In particular there's bad blood between Kenny and Tanahashi?
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basically yeah new japan is mad they jumped ship after basically becoming stars on the new japan platform and the elite is mad they weren't offered better deals to stay. i think they've all pretty much said new japan offered the worst contracts of the three on the table. kenny and tanahashi were feuding just prior to their departure and their feud was predicated on tanahashi not respecting kenny's philosophy of wrestling basically. afterwards both talked about wanting to wrestle each other again so that was probably more story than heat
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A lot of Tanahashi's "I don't respect your style of wrestling" feuds seem to be based at least partially in reality, like the one with Shibata, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was some minor amount of "heat," if you could even call it that, between Tana and Kenny but I'm sure it's nothing that serious. Most of the issue seems to be with New Japan management assuming the Elite would stay out of loyalty and not offering a satisfactory deal to make good on it, particularly for the Bucks, who they don't seem to have actually valued that much as a draw.
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