|
So you are saying fuckboy is basically "desperate, manipulative".
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2019 19:34
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 29, 2024 05:18 |
|
|
Jippa posted:Sex pest seems like one of those tabloid terms that nobody ever actually uses like "romp". I use it fairly frequently to refer to creepy and predatory behavior, especially in online spaces, because that's often how it starts. Predatory people rarely leap straight to assault, rape, stalking/doxxing, and egregious abuse; they often test the waters by gradually escalating behaviors intended to see how far they can go with both potential victims and those who might witness the behavior. This is part of why it's so very important to call that behavior out early and make it clear it's not welcome. What might seem incidental or not a big deal might throw a lot of red flags to someone familiar with the pattern, and that can lead to a lot of frustrating cries of things being blown out of proportion.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2019 19:37
|
|
|
Ka0 posted:So you are saying fuckboy is basically "desperate, manipulative".
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2019 19:40
|
|
|
Also it’s fuccboi
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2019 20:04
|
|
|
You can also take fuckman, from the classic "Suck my dick you fuckman" of course.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2019 20:20
|
|
|
Der Waffle Mous posted:iitc there was also quite a bit of "my lawyer has suggested I sue but I won't because I'm such a nice guy" Yes. it was an astoundingly bad apology in 2015 and it's aged like raw pork, but because Max alluded to the idea of rape culture and maybe its bad (while also denying anything more than a vague connection to it, *in his rape accusation apology post*) people thought it was an incredibly good apology and therefore he suffered absolutely zero consequences.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2019 21:33
|
|
|
Also, I've always got the sense that fuckboys are under 30 and sex pests are over 30. Edit: and this of course means only thirty year olds can be fuckmen Black Griffon fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Sep 24, 2019 |
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2019 21:54
|
|
|
Black Griffon posted:Also, I've always got the sense that fuckboys are under 30 and sex pests are over 30.
|
|
#
?
Sep 24, 2019 22:54
|
|
|
Apparently Vic Mignogna’s case is so bad that the American Bar Association had to tweet about it: https://twitter.com/abaesq/status/1176164372479193094?s=21
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 00:30
|
|
|
I mean yeah the lawyer is apparently straight up forging things so I’m honestly surprised it took this long.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 00:32
|
|
|
The AK story is a real disappointment. Yeah, he made stuff that my brain loved (even if the games themselves were a bit poo poo) but he was given every opportunity over the years to do better and start fresh and, for whatever reason, he just kept doubling down on being the wronged one. It's crazy to me how many abusers create narratives where they're the ones who've been hurt by others and how everyone else just won't take the time to understand. And it's a bummer to see Lottie taking the dive down deeper with him.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 00:44
|
|
|
Congrats Kotaku on accidentally(?) posting porn of underage characters. https://kotaku.com/animated-video-game-porn-could-be-a-lot-sexier-and-less-1838335168 quote:Editor’s Note - 5:25pm: This story, part of our regular coverage of the intersection of sex and games, originally included screenshots from several porn parodies with a note that they were Not Safe For Work. We’ve since removed those images. While the intent of this article was to provide a snapshot of the kind of gaming and geek porn that’s out there now, it’s clear in retrospect that, in terms of the images and the analysis you expect from us, we made a mistake. Readers are understandably uncomfortable about these kinds of depictions of characters who are often depicted as or thought of as teenagers. I am, too and apologize. We can do better, and we will. - Stephen Totilo, Editor-in-Chief
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 00:50
|
|
|
Ojo posted:Sex pest is definitely a word that conjures up images of creepy older men in anoraks. "Sex pest" sounds like a minimization term, like a little randy mosquito easily swatted away. I think harsher language should be preferred.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 00:50
|
|
|
yeah not gonna lie "sex pest" is a way too cutesy term and personally, whether this is reflective of reality or not, it feels like it's largely used by people with no skin in the game
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 00:56
|
|
|
I think sex pest came out of tabloids where they had to save space, like how they called Obama "Bam." It probably has use for "irritating but sub-criminal," but I think we legitimately do not have, yet, a good vocabulary for the nuances of these shitheads.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 01:06
|
|
|
on the other hand, when you have pests in your house, you carefully protect everything you love and then fill it with toxic gas until all life within has been obliterated
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 01:11
|
|
|
Memnaelar posted:The AK story is a real disappointment. Yeah, he made stuff that my brain loved (even if the games themselves were a bit poo poo) but he was given every opportunity over the years to do better and start fresh and, for whatever reason, he just kept doubling down on being the wronged one. It's crazy to me how many abusers create narratives where they're the ones who've been hurt by others and how everyone else just won't take the time to understand. If they were capable of admitting fault they would be capable of change
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 01:46
|
|
|
It is also worth remembering this behavior is often rewarded, as gross as that is. Why stop doing a bad thing if the part where it's bad never materializes for you specifically? this is a really gross and hosed up way of thinking but you also have to be pretty gross and hosed up to do stuff like that to people, so it all scans.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 01:48
|
|
|
Nckdictator posted:Congrats Kotaku on accidentally(?) posting porn of underage characters. I saw this before the update. It was, uh, something. I cannot understand who kayed that and why. Edit: even ignoring the whole teenage character thing, posting Zelda porn seems like a great way to not get nintendo poo poo to review ever again. Sankis fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Sep 25, 2019 |
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 01:53
|
|
|
Patware posted:on the other hand, when you have pests in your house, you carefully protect everything you love and then fill it with toxic gas until all life within has been obliterated Pretty much. Bedbugs are pests. Are you particularly chill about having bedbugs in your house?
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:31
|
|
|
Sankis posted:I saw this before the update. It was, uh, something. I cannot understand who kayed that and why.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:35
|
|
|
Reene posted:Pretty much. ...on your weiner/girl equivalent?
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:46
|
|
|
Endorph posted:Even ignoring that, why not interview the people who make it instead of posting gifs from a five second tumblr search? Thatd actually be interesting and informative in some way. yeah even if you judge the article as an attempt at sex-positive journalism it's still just... a bad job. she did a bad job. does kotaku just publish whatever the gently caress these days
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:49
|
|
|
Patware posted:yeah even if you judge the article as an attempt at sex-positive journalism it's still just... a bad job. she did a bad job. does kotaku just publish whatever the gently caress these days "These days"?
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:51
|
|
|
Patware posted:yeah even if you judge the article as an attempt at sex-positive journalism it's still just... a bad job. she did a bad job. does kotaku just publish whatever the gently caress these days  Yes
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:51
|
|
|
Kotaku has always been just that kinda site. I think it's more notable these days because of the shift to these sex positive style stories because flubbing those is way more awful than like, whatever the hell they used to do.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:53
|
|
|
Kagaya Homoraisan posted:whatever the hell they used to do. https://kotaku.com/how-i-achieved-greatness-on-a-sonic-the-hedgehog-themed-5888677?IR=T
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:55
|
|
|
That's a classic and pretty much exactly what I mean. They've always been a pretty bad place but it was more of a grab bag back then.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:56
|
|
|
A lot of websites these days genuinely can't afford to be picky about what they put out because the demand for constant frequent updates unique to your website is pretty insane. Likewise it's easier to publish something lovely and apologize/deal with the flames because even a terrible article draws clicks.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:56
|
|
|
Kotaku running articles about how weird and creepy japanese sex games are and also running one about how epic and awesome some western made sex slavery sim game is sends some really mixed messages.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:57
|
|
|
I have literally never seen the specific term “sex-pest” outside of Something Awful.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:57
|
|
|
Bust Rodd posted:I have literally never seen the specific term “sex-pest” outside of Something Awful. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bc6cm8
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 02:57
|
|
|
Ibram Gaunt posted:Kotaku running articles about how weird and creepy japanese sex games are and also running one about how epic and awesome some western made sex slavery sim game is sends some really mixed messages. To some extent they are mixed because they are separated by multiple years, and the negative response to one informs the perspective of the other. I'm not sure what that Kotaku article has to do with the sexually abusive people in Games thread though.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 03:00
|
|
|
Bust Rodd posted:I have literally never seen the specific term “sex-pest” outside of Something Awful. It's more of a UK term.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 03:01
|
|
|
Cease to Hope posted:I'm not sure what that Kotaku article has to do with the sexually abusive people in Games thread though. i don't think it'd stop abuse or anything and it's still pretty off topic but i do think its worth discussing the specific ways in which the industry and discussion around it is this bizarre combination of prudish and giggling when it comes to sex, instead of just accepting it as a thing that obviously people are gonna make games about or have be an element of their games because its a major thing in real life.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 03:10
|
|
|
There’s also a creepy wave of male-feminism that basically sexualizes woman under the guise of sex positivity but it’s much more akin to fetishization and once you start to notice the difference you realize how often people just let it slide.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 03:22
|
|
|
I feel this is a relevant tweet to bring up. https://twitter.com/austin_walker/status/846540731443544065?s=20 Edit: Not accusing him of being anything other than kind of weird about this. chumbler fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Sep 25, 2019 |
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 03:34
|
|
|
being an awkward nerd who is trying to navigate the hosed-up minefield of sexuality isn't a crime, even if actual predators try to use being awkward nerds as an excuse.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 03:36
|
|
|
Bust Rodd posted:I have literally never seen the specific term “sex-pest” outside of Something Awful. well this thread's the first time i've seen sex pest in something awful so i guess different people have different experiences (the term, not examples. seen all kinds of examples)
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 03:52
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 29, 2024 05:18 |
|
|
Kchama posted:I mean in Harlan Ellison's case he totally did this, so maybe it's at least a proper term. Along with rapist. Oh, Christ. My old housemate idolized the man. Given she defended Marion Zimmer Bradley when the molestation allegations started up, I can only imagine how loud she'd get.
|
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2019 03:58
|
|
