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BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Jerry Cotton posted:

Scorpion is like two years old.

Haha what? I was going to say "wow that sounds like an awesome period piece to watch for some 80s or early 90s nostalgia" but lol if it's something new

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Mr.Radar posted:

For doubly obsolete and failed, how about an adapter to let you read SmartMedia cards using a floppy drive?

https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1177012361816883200

The rest of the Twitter thread is an ongoing attempt at reverse-engineering how it works.

It looks like a Jazz drive cartridge.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Also a SD card to floppy adapter.

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

Mr.Radar posted:

For doubly obsolete and failed, how about an adapter to let you read SmartMedia cards using a floppy drive?

https://twitter.com/whitequark/status/1177012361816883200

The rest of the Twitter thread is an ongoing attempt at reverse-engineering how it works.

These were painfully slow with bigger cards. I dug two of them out of a newspaper's obsolete tech pile, along with an Olympus digital camera and a couple gigs of smartmedia cards (in 256/512mb cards). It didn't take me long to scrap the floppy adapter in favor of a real card reader.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

ishikabibble posted:

It could've been accurate!

Iirc, the entire reason they shut it down was because it was completely obsolete by that point. Processing power and bypassing techniques had gotten to a level where there wasn't really anything they could do to the signal to make it less accurate while still being able to access the accurate signal themselves.

The U.S. Coast Guard actively undermined the other branches of the military by setting up fixed base stations.

They don’t like it when ships run aground, into each other, or into local infrastructure.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Antioch posted:

Scorpion or $c0rP10N or whatever wasn't that long ago and it aged like milk. The first episode (the only one I've seen) had a disk located in a SAN based on the height of the DC manager, car stereo door speakers being too loud and magnetically wiping a hard drive, and a god damned jet engine dropping a networking cable out of the wheel well, while in flight, so a car racing down the runway under the plane could connect up and upload new flight control data.

The plane/network cable was probably the best thing that show did, conceptually. Even that still needs a lot of suspension of disbelief.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Mr.Radar posted:

The rest of the Twitter thread is an ongoing attempt at reverse-engineering how it works.

Magnets :science:

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Vic posted:

This reminded me of Shadowrun and I wanted to post a picture of someone with a keyboard plugged into their head. So I GISed and:





lol this is what I was looking for though:


God I love the internet, we've made more stupid bullshit culture than all retained pre-internet culture over the past 30-40 years.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

T-man posted:

God I love the internet, we've made more stupid bullshit culture than all retained pre-internet culture over the past 30-40 years.

I thought I was in the DeviantArt thread.

:nws:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jerry Cotton posted:

Scorpion is like two years old.

I thought it was at least 5 years old, don't tell me they continued with the bullshit based on a 15 year old?

Also TIGER TEAM!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdQas_We_kI

poo poo, I've done similar just for fun to a few of our facilities. I think I even posted in this thread that I bet my boss I could open the building with his car key.

Sam Hall
Jun 29, 2003


Huh, speaking of obsolete and failed, seems Tinypic finally died the true death about a week ago. I probably wouldn't have noticed at all except that their "your image has stopped existing" thumbnail changed slightly.



RIP tinypic, pretty much functionally identical in death as in life.

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
There seems to be an extremely predictable life cycle for image hosts. First they're simple and just work. Then they experience a massive spike in popularity because they're superior to existing sites. Their bandwidth becomes expensive, so they try to monetize through bullshit ads, making it hard to directly link images, and gratuitous social features. Then a new, simple image host pops up...

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Imgur is still pretty decent but the combination of spawning a community as well as sometimes turning an uploaded image into a post causes the users there to be confused why someone uploaded a random picture with not context, when the context is on whatever reddit post it was uploaded for.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

RIP in peace Waffleimages, it escaped the trend but was still a goon project.

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

rndmnmbr posted:

These were painfully slow with bigger cards. I dug two of them out of a newspaper's obsolete tech pile, along with an Olympus digital camera and a couple gigs of smartmedia cards (in 256/512mb cards). It didn't take me long to scrap the floppy adapter in favor of a real card reader.

I thought SmartMedia topped out at 128 Mb

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



mobby_6kl posted:

Yep I wasn't exaggerating at all. Although I guess I missed the laser pointer, don't think there's a phone with that integrated. And for the voltmeter you'd need those lovely Kickstarter BT probes or something like that.
I don't think I can use my phone as a torque wrench either

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule




EDIT: From this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI3C9yLVsVE

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 11:12 on Sep 30, 2019

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

T-man posted:

Not to be That Person, but your phone has a laser, electronic lockpick and a monocular (for shoulder-surfing the passwords)

Not to be That That Person, but having stun gun concealed inside a functional mobile phone is one of the more common things confiscated from the Russian tourists on our border. So its only a matter of legislation or more likely lack of it.

Der Kyhe has a new favorite as of 11:45 on Sep 30, 2019

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

Reminds me of a series of videos that might lost to the ages. Parody ads with Mac guy and PC guy. Then Linux guy comes out, ultra basement dweller looking guy. I don't remember anything about what was said in that one.

They had later one where Mac and PC are taking and Linux looking guy comes out. Mac says "oh hi Linux"

"I'm not Linux! I am BSD!"

"Oh, sorry. You look just like him"

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Lowen SoDium posted:

Reminds me of a series of videos that might lost to the ages. Parody ads with Mac guy and PC guy. Then Linux guy comes out, ultra basement dweller looking guy. I don't remember anything about what was said in that one.

They had later one where Mac and PC are taking and Linux looking guy comes out. Mac says "oh hi Linux"

"I'm not Linux! I am BSD!"

"Oh, sorry. You look just like him"
BSD ought to be that cyberpunk image only instead of a generic grey t-shirt it's a t-shirt with the daemon on it and instead of the guy it's a dusty skeleton.

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

JazzmasterCurious posted:

I thought SmartMedia topped out at 128 Mb

Maybe? I seem to remember larger sizes, but it's been a hell of a long time since I last saw one.

E. Checked Wikipedia. You're right. But I still remember holding a 512mb smartcard. Strange how the mind plays tricks with memory.

rndmnmbr has a new favorite as of 21:29 on Sep 30, 2019

buddhist nudist
May 16, 2019

Der Kyhe posted:

Not to be That That Person, but having stun gun concealed inside a functional mobile phone is one of the more common things confiscated from the Russian tourists on our border. So its only a matter of legislation or more likely lack of it.

Is it inside a functional phone itself or just a stun gun built into a phone case? Because you can just buy the latter on Amazon literally right this second.

The Sausages
Sep 30, 2012

What do you want to do? Who do you want to be?

rndmnmbr posted:

Strange how the mind plays tricks with memory.

Lol

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012


I never claimed to be consistent with my bullshit.

That being said, thinking back I salvaged a handful of CF cards in 256/512mb the same day and that was probably what I actually recalled.

I wish I had documented that haul - and ironically, I had six or seven cameras right there to do it with, had I thought. Early digital camera tech, check. weird adapters for all kinds of stuff, check. Old iMacs and G3 Powermacs, check. Obsolete networking equipment, check. Dozens of no-longer-compatible flatbed scanners and printers, check. Ancient DTP software, check. Pretty much all of it went in the dumpster. We were moving offices, so the only stuff we kept was three PCs, the best two printers, the best scanner, and just enough networking equipment to get the new office running.

I farmed out the above camera to my aunt, the Nikon glass to the school's yearbook teacher, the Canon FD glass and all the film bodies to a camera shop for a pittance, kept the Canon EF lenses the owner didn't want and a fully optioned out Laserwriter II I used until I couldn't source toner carts for it. Scrapped the rest of it mercilessly.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

rndmnmbr posted:

I never claimed to be consistent with my bullshit.

He's saying you made a grade-A pun, son!

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Lowen SoDium posted:

Reminds me of a series of videos that might lost to the ages. Parody ads with Mac guy and PC guy. Then Linux guy comes out, ultra basement dweller looking guy. I don't remember anything about what was said in that one.

They had later one where Mac and PC are taking and Linux looking guy comes out. Mac says "oh hi Linux"

"I'm not Linux! I am BSD!"

"Oh, sorry. You look just like him"

I always imagined a parody where they PC gets and upgrade, he gets a fancy new suit jacket. Then some guys comes in drag off the Mac and he asks "what's going on????" and one of the guys taking him away says "you're getting an upgrade" and after he's dragged off screen there's a single gunshot, and a new guy who is like a more buff and handsome version of Justin Long comes on screen. The PC asks "who are you?" and the new guy says "I'm the new Mac".

Though I think eventually you could do minor upgrades on Macs?

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

twistedmentat posted:


Though I think eventually you could do minor upgrades on Macs?

When those commercials came out you could pretty easily upgrade the HD, ram and usually replace a bad battery. That commercial would make way more sense now that you can't do any of that at all, except on maybe the mini? Idk I have really kept up with non laptop macs.

The equivalent for a desktop pc would basically be a spine and nervous system replacement, and throwing on an Nvidia hat for the sticker you put on the case.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Some of the OG color macs did have a replaceable video card in them, but you could really only replace the video card with the same video card.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


This is :krad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-q8ehzHeQQ

less than three
Aug 9, 2007



Fallen Rib

I just finished watching that, pretty neat

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
How would a colourwheel CRT have worked before liquid crystal technology?

Would they all have been projection sets?

One of the better ways I can think of to implement the colour filter is to have a film as wide as the screen looping the whole way around the depth of the CRT on at least four rollers. This could have worked, but I think it would have had reliability issues.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Wow I just thought of something, computer cases with keys in them, or the turbo button.

What did they do? Who knows! Well, the keys were obvious, to lock the case. Because, you might leave your computer in a high crime office and it might get stripped for parts by the guys in marketing? Though I think the Turbo button did the opposite, it actually slowed down the PC so older programs would work better? I think that's what the LGR video about it did.

But that does make sense, the jump from 286 to 386 to 486 and then Pentium was massive. You'd plug your old games into it and you'd rocket across the battlefield in mecwarrior, or your run cycle in Kings Quest would make you into the flash.



That's awesome. Also using Katamari as your images is going to confuse some people.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
I have taken apart several PC's with turbo buttons on the case but never one where the button was actually connected to the motherboard :iiam:

DesperateDan has a new favorite as of 09:40 on Oct 5, 2019

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

Keys were an old way of locking your workstation (and now you know the source of the term) by disconnecting the keyboard. Which is all the key did, IIRC.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

rndmnmbr posted:

Keys were an old way of locking your workstation (and now you know the source of the term) by disconnecting the keyboard. Which is all the key did, IIRC.

Yeah, that's what I remember learning from this thread or the tech relics one. I can't remember if I ever tried using them myself.

DesperateDan posted:

I have taken apart several PC's with turbo buttons on the case but never one where the button was actually connected to the motherboard : iiam:

I connected it and also made sure the 7-segment LED display showed the correct CPU frequencies in MHz by adjusting jumpers :colbert: Turning it on and off to test my jumper settings was tedious, so eventually I just left the PC on while I fiddled with the jumpers, even though the power switch was right next to them and back then it was switching the mains power, not just sending a digital signal to the motherboard. Eventually I managed to accidentally short the mains power to the case :saddowns:

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

In 6th grade (1992 or so) I was the one in charge of wheeling the brand new elementary school computer from classroom to classroom. The principal very insistently tasked me with locking the keyboard every time I moved it to keep the keyboard from breaking. In retrospect, the keyboard was a Model M and I could have used it to smash a new doorway in the wall without doing more than dislodging a keycap or two.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

rndmnmbr posted:

In 6th grade (1992 or so) I was the one in charge of wheeling the brand new elementary school computer from classroom to classroom. The principal very insistently tasked me with locking the keyboard every time I moved it to keep the keyboard from breaking. In retrospect, the keyboard was a Model M and I could have used it to smash a new doorway in the wall without doing more than dislodging a keycap or two.

If the keyboard was a model M, and the computer needed to be "wheeled", I take it this wasn't a laptop, but rather a desktop.

While moving a desktop computer between rooms, it would have been switched off.

What the heck did your principal think that locking the keyboard did, so that it was important for the computer when it was turned off?

Maybe he figured that if parking a hard drive is important, then maybe other things you can do to a computer before you turn it off are also important. Did he ask you to turn the brightness and contrast on the monitor down before moving the computer too? :v:

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

It was 1992, it was an IBM 486 desktop, and it was shared by the 3rd-6th grades. Lots of Carmen Sandiego, Math Blaster, Reader Rabbit, Oregon Trail, and Print Shop Pro for the teachers. Laptops were only kinda a thing at the time.

Also, if you think olds suck at computing now, try then, when your average old had never touched a computer and believed every garbled half-truth they ever heard about them. Mr. Skelley was a good principal, but didn't even know how to use a typewriter.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

rndmnmbr posted:

Also, if you think olds suck at computing now, try then, when your average old had never touched a computer and believed every garbled half-truth they ever heard about them. Mr. Skelley was a good principal, but didn't even know how to use a typewriter.

We got a Commodore 64 when I was 4 or 5.

When the local elementary school got Commodore 64s when I was in first grade, I earned snacks and Cokes at recess as I knew how to load things off a floppy disk. As in:
LOAD:"[program]",8,1
waits a million years
RUN

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Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

rndmnmbr posted:

Mr. Skelley was a good principal, but didn't even know how to use a typewriter.

Someone being described as an "old" in 1992 probably started his career during a time when this didn't matter because after all, men don't type things - that's what you have a secretary for!

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