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Skwirl posted:It might, but the thing with Conan crossing over into Avengers is that he's public domain, so Marvel doesn't have to worry about 10 years from now when they no longer have rights to the character, (ahh, who am I kidding, Disney will probably buy Games Workshop for less than the catering budget of the next Avengers film). Conan isn't public domain.
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Vince MechMahon posted:Conan isn't public domain. Fake edit, google tells me it's a bit more complicated, he's public domain in the rest of the world but not the US, I'm not positive how accurate this is but it's the only concise explanation I was able to find quickly. https://www.quora.com/Is-The-Character-Conan-The-Barbarian-in-the-public-domain quote:U.S. perspective:
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Skwirl posted:It might, but the thing with Conan crossing over into Avengers is that he's public domain, so Marvel doesn't have to worry about 10 years from now when they no longer have rights to the character, (ahh, who am I kidding, Disney will probably buy Games Workshop for less than the catering budget of the next Avengers film). Someone at Disney would ask what they're doing with that Total War game that made so much money, and be responded to with many tugged collars.
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So Spider-Verse was great, and that and the one-page story by Houser in MC #1001 are really making me want a RYV revival. I'm very slightly concerned that Annie's just going to be a human macguffin from the setup, but I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.
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Mulva posted:Incidentally spoil tags are useless when there is no context for what they are spoiling. Right, I just avoid the general thread entirely until I'm done my weekly reads. Apologies. ...so did Hulk's evil dad eat the universe or what? Chinston Wurchill fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Oct 2, 2019 |
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Oct 2, 2019 15:28
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Incidentally spoil tags are useless when there is no context for what they are spoiling. Immortal Hulk by the way.
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Skwirl posted:It might, but the thing with Conan crossing over into Avengers is that he's public domain, so Marvel doesn't have to worry about 10 years from now when they no longer have rights to the character, (ahh, who am I kidding, Disney will probably buy Games Workshop for less than the catering budget of the next Avengers film). Which is to say you can reprint old REH Conan stories, but if you're creating new Conan stories, comics, movies, posters, statues, etc. etc. you still need the Conan Properties license. Which Marvel did not have from like 1999-2018 and therefore didn't make or reprint or reference any Conan comics, but Dark Horse did. Marvel literally announced they'd struck a deal with CPI last year.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Right, I just avoid the general thread entirely until I'm done my weekly reads. Apologies. If I had to guess: this is the culmination of every Hulk working together under Devil Hulk, and Bruce just kind of looks like his dad cause we all become our fathers.
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Mulva posted:Immortal Hulk by the way. Holy fuuuuuuuuck E: that's it, that's all I can say
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Oct 2, 2019 16:33
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Immortal Hulk is everything comics should be. Joe Bennett's art is superb - not just the drafting, but the composition and the storytelling. Practically every issue has that big punch moment in it, a piece of art that really rocks you back on your heels. This one has two or three.
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Dawgstar posted:Black Cat remains very cool and good. Some slighlty more indepth Spider-Verse thoughts: I really like the premise, and it seems like we're not going down the 'kill people off for shock value' route - heck, we even see Spder-Man Noir in the big ol' montage. And hey, we get some great alternate earths on our way through (with the obligatory Spider-Punk appearance). Plus as a fan of RYV, it's good to see Annie will be playing a major role - although hopefully as an active participant and not a human Macguffin. Kind of weird that her parents aren't getting involved, though - while I get the thematic reason why the writers don't want another Peter Parker (especially one identical in appearance to the archetypical Spider-Man), it does seem kind of weird they apparently aren't involved in the search for their missing daughter. Sadly it looks like Mayday's also going to be relegated to a cameo in the Spider-Verse montage page - while of course Miles & Gwen are the big two people think of when it comes to the Spider-Verse after Peter, she was really the trailblazer. Spider-Zero seems cool, I like her aesthetic, but I'm curious if there's going to be more to her than meets the eye. All things considered, I'm curious and excited to see where they go next. The Spidersonas in the back were all really great- hopefully they'll play into the story proper later on. I recommend it to anyone who liked Into The Spider-Verse, or heck, Spidey in general. Also Marvel Comics #1001 has a Power Pack story with Gurihuru art. This is not a drill. It is delightful. Give me more Power Pack Marvel you cowards. Future Foundation was...good. Kind of not too happy that the Bucky from Exiles has also been retconned into Rikki, but that may be just because I feel it undermines that version's happy ending somewhat. But hey, they've made the subtext official at least (I'm guessing her & Julie were going to be a thing if the book wasn't already cancelled). The Lyja reveal was great, too - it really feels like there were some great ideas that the premature end have cut short, which is a real bummer.
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Edge & Christian posted:Conan isn't in the public domain, or at least Conan Properties International actively asserts the copyright and trademark for the Conan character. Apparently some of Robert E. Howard's original stories fell into the public domain because they hadn't been reprinted/filed for a period of time in the 1970s (the same way the Fleisher Superman cartoons are in the public domain and can be freely reproduced, but Superman isn't in the public domain). Related rights question: why is it that the Red Sonja rights are completely separate from Conan? She was created by Marvel for their Conan comics back in the 70s, so I would think she'd be with Marvel (either all along, or currently as part of the Conan license), but that isn't the case.
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Barry Convex posted:Related rights question: why is it that the Red Sonja rights are completely separate from Conan? She was created by Marvel for their Conan comics back in the 70s, so I would think she'd be with Marvel (either all along, or currently as part of the Conan license), but that isn't the case. From piecing it together from Wiki, it seems she has separate rights from Conan, including her own holding company.
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In other Immortal Hulk news the Absolute Carnage tie-in that came out this week is worth a read. It makes some of what's been going on in Immortal Hulk a bit more explicit and you don't really need to know what's happening in Absolute Carnage to follow.
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:And Bizarre Adventures, which has my barbarian BLOODSTONE story in it (as I sit in the car typing this, Iron Maiden is playing which is very apropos) It was probably just a coincidence but when I open Spider-Verse and page one was 8-Ball I feel that’s a shout-out to our forum as I have been lobbying for more 8-Ball since I discovered him while doing our Marvel Handbook thread a few years ago. He was quite the hit.
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Put me on the same train as the rest of the Immortal Hulk readers, because  drat e:"Mastermind Excello", never stop the Black Cat deep cuts. wiegieman fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Oct 3, 2019 |
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X-O posted:It was probably just a coincidence but when I open Spider-Verse and page one was 8-Ball I feel that’s a shout-out to our forum as I have been lobbying for more 8-Ball since I discovered him while doing our Marvel Handbook thread a few years ago. He was quite the hit. That was my first thought when I opened the book.
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Barry Convex posted:Related rights question: why is it that the Red Sonja rights are completely separate from Conan? She was created by Marvel for their Conan comics back in the 70s, so I would think she'd be with Marvel (either all along, or currently as part of the Conan license), but that isn't the case. Anyway, when they made the Red Sonja movie in the 1980s, Howard's estate split the Conan and Red Sonja rights into two separate holding companies to make licensing and promotion for each character easier, though Marvel's Conan license was grandfathered in to include Red Sonja. Once Marvel let the rights lapse, Dark Horse grabbed the Conan rights but presumably didn't want to pay up for Red Sonja, or maybe Dynamite outbid them? Regardless, Dynamite still has the Red Sonja license.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:In other Immortal Hulk news the Absolute Carnage tie-in that came out this week is worth a read. It makes some of what's been going on in Immortal Hulk a bit more explicit and you don't really need to know what's happening in Absolute Carnage to follow. I have no interest at all in Absolute Carnage or any of the symbiote stuff they're trying to sell but the Immortal Hulk tie in was pretty good.
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Edge & Christian posted:Technically Red Sonja is loosely based on/inspired by Red Sonya, an unrelated Robert E. Howard character. From the first solo issue of Red Sonja, Marvel credited it as "featuring the heroine created by Robert E. Howard", so she was considered part of the Conan the Barbarian Intellectual Property, same as Kulan Gath and other characters Roy Thomas and company created for the Conan comics. The same thing is true of most licensed comics, from Star Wars to GI Joe to anything else, just about the only exception I can think of is Marvel still having the rights to Red Ronin despite debuting in the Godzilla comic; maybe Toho had an unusual licensing contract? I think Marvel still has the rights to the non-Rom content from ROM (the Torpedo/Turbo armor, the Spaceknights, the Wraiths) and the the couple of characters from Micronauts that weren't toys (Bug), but they went out of their way to have Circuit Breaker show up in a book other than TRANSFORMERS first so Hasbro couldn't claim her, so it's probably down to individual contracts, yeah
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Karma Tornado posted:I think Marvel still has the rights to the non-Rom content from ROM (the Torpedo/Turbo armor, the Spaceknights, the Wraiths) and the the couple of characters from Micronauts that weren't toys (Bug), but they went out of their way to have Circuit Breaker show up in a book other than TRANSFORMERS first so Hasbro couldn't claim her, so it's probably down to individual contracts, yeah But the rights thing also leads to hilarious moments like Iron Man 193-194, where they try so hard to use Godzilla without calling him Godzilla. Had the same bad guy from the Godzilla series, set the story in the Pacific Ocean, and had a big green lizard monster with atomic breath. They changed him JUST ENOUGH to get around the copyright but even 7 year old me was like “hey why is Iron Man fighting Godzilla?”
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Karma Tornado posted:I think Marvel still has the rights to the non-Rom content from ROM (the Torpedo/Turbo armor, the Spaceknights, the Wraiths) and the the couple of characters from Micronauts that weren't toys (Bug), but they went out of their way to have Circuit Breaker show up in a book other than TRANSFORMERS first so Hasbro couldn't claim her, so it's probably down to individual contracts, yeah ROM is an interesting case because the toy itself had almost no fiction around it. Parker Brothers just... made this toy. I think maybe he was a cyborg? Marvel filled in like every other detail, though.
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Dawgstar posted:ROM is an interesting case because the toy itself had almost no fiction around it. Parker Brothers just... made this toy. I think maybe he was a cyborg? Marvel filled in like every other detail, though. That was from that weird period where nothing was really working for Marvel except for Star Wars so they just bought up every sci-fi property the could in the hopes of hitting the jackpot again. They had Godzilla, Micronauts, ROM, Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, 2001 a Space Odyssey, Planet of the Apes, and a ton of other stuff. ROM was awesome and they almost instantly made him a part of the Marvel Universe. They even had his big bad guys revealed as offshoots of the Skrulls at some point. That’s what made it work so well - they gave him a mythos and integrated him into what they were doing line-wide. It’s why when the revival everyone supposedly wanted happened at another company it flopped - no Spaceknights, no Dire Wraiths, no Hybrid, no nothin
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X-O posted:It was probably just a coincidence but when I open Spider-Verse and page one was 8-Ball I feel that’s a shout-out to our forum as I have been lobbying for more 8-Ball since I discovered him while doing our Marvel Handbook thread a few years ago. He was quite the hit. No, I know better than to put a BSS reference in a book. It was actually supposed to be the Squid, but I didn't realize that he was dead, and the editor pushed for 8 Ball instead.
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So the editor is a goon!
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Edge & Christian posted:Technically Red Sonja is loosely based on/inspired by Red Sonya, an unrelated Robert E. Howard character. From the first solo issue of Red Sonja, Marvel credited it as "featuring the heroine created by Robert E. Howard", so she was considered part of the Conan the Barbarian Intellectual Property, same as Kulan Gath and other characters Roy Thomas and company created for the Conan comics. The same thing is true of most licensed comics, from Star Wars to GI Joe to anything else, just about the only exception I can think of is Marvel still having the rights to Red Ronin despite debuting in the Godzilla comic; maybe Toho had an unusual licensing contract? ah, that explains it, thanks.
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The IDW Rom had a Dire Wraith enemy, but he looked nothing like the classic Marvel versions. I think they're both using the name.
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GPTribefan posted:That was from that weird period where nothing was really working for Marvel except for Star Wars so they just bought up every sci-fi property the could in the hopes of hitting the jackpot again. They had Godzilla, Micronauts, ROM, Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, 2001 a Space Odyssey, Planet of the Apes, and a ton of other stuff. And Marvel still has Machine Man! I'd love to read these deals somewhere.
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Vulpes Vulpes posted:And Bizarre Adventures, which has my barbarian BLOODSTONE story in it (as I sit in the car typing this, Iron Maiden is playing which is very apropos) Now that I can use words again, having recovered from Hulk - I want to note that this story was *really loving good* and I got definite old-school Conan magazine vibes from it. Great choice of baddie, too.
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Karma Tornado posted:And Marvel still has Machine Man! I'd love to read these deals somewhere. You wanna talk about character turns... look at Mister Machine as introduced by Jack Kirby in that book, into what he became in his solo series, into his BWS mini series, into the Nextwave iteration. I think the deal was any original character created in those books was Marvel’s to keep, as long as it wasn’t based on the existing property. I think that’s why, for example, Dr. Demonicus stayed around at Marvel but none of the kaiju could from the Godzilla book. Since “Mister Machine” was a Kirby creation independent of anything from the book or movie, they were all good. It probably helped that it was a property that didn’t exactly lend itself to other media...
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https://twitter.com/Doncates/status/1180224394897039362 Cates is a wonderful writer, but I'm not digging the vibes on this one. Thranduil-lookin' Thor. 
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JordanKai posted:https://twitter.com/Doncates/status/1180224394897039362 I am super down for Captain Universe Thor. EDIT: Awwww Yeah! https://twitter.com/MarvelousNews/status/1180243457329119233 EDIT 2: Oh wow! https://twitter.com/thealexrossart/status/1180241905378058240 X-O fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Oct 4, 2019 |
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Donny Cates taking over Thor was the most obvious choice in the world after God Country. Really excited for Al Ewing on Guardians. His Rocket was one of the best things to come out of Marvel's push for the Guardians after the movie came out.
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X-O posted:EDIT: Awwww Yeah! Now this I can get behind.
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JordanKai posted:https://twitter.com/Doncates/status/1180224394897039362 Between Cates and Ewing it's only a matter of time before we get King Thor vs. Symbiote Hulk at the end of the universe. And yes, Ewing on Guardians should be great
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twistedmentat posted:Is Rocket wearing a Miami vice suit? Wait, Rocket and Tubbs?  He wore it in Ewing's short-lived Rocket series from 2017 (which was great, but too good for this world).
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