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~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
unrelated; the ANU hack analysis doesn't seem to add up for me. advanced threats just to exfiltrate some identities?

turns out they got popped originally by a OLE attachment/embed and a weak pw so LOL

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mystes
May 31, 2006

~Coxy posted:

unrelated; the ANU hack analysis doesn't seem to add up for me. advanced threats just to exfiltrate some identities?
Its probably just China deciding what students to harvest organs from when they go back.

fins
May 31, 2011

Floss Finder
lol at uzbekistan dropping (and subsequently immediately burning) zero days via a PC with kaspersky antivirus!

I bought this for a drat reason!

:downsa:

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
Hmm, looks like Uzbeks have been drinking your battery fluid again.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Beccara posted:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12273866

"Hack attack puts health details of one million New Zealanders at risk"

I work in this sector, This is either going to be a massive cover up or a bloodbath for the sector

i don't know how new zealand specifically handles these things but if it's like every other country in the world everyone whose data was breached will get an email saying how very sorry they are, possibly also offering 12 FREE! months of credit monitoring

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

quote:

Government Communications Security Bureau Director General Andrew Hampton said one of the 2016 attacks came from "sophisticated cyber actors".

He said the analysis by the cyber security centre of that attack "indicates that patient information was accessible to the cyber actors".

sophisticated cyber actors

all i can imagine when reading that is some kind of VR production of Macbeth

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
I always just visualize those cyber warrior setups at the end of the Nod campaign in the original C&C.

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Shame Boy posted:

i don't know how new zealand specifically handles these things but if it's like every other country in the world everyone whose data was breached will get an email saying how very sorry they are, possibly also offering 12 FREE! months of credit monitoring

nah, we don't do credit monitoring

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Volmarias posted:

I always just visualize those cyber warrior setups at the end of the Nod campaign in the original C&C.

Peace through Power

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
https://twitter.com/laraseligman/status/1181306171417939970

syntaxrigger
Jul 7, 2011

Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?


A few others corroborated it seems

https://twitter.com/jiveDurkey/status/1181310176504270854

syntaxrigger
Jul 7, 2011

Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

NVM some folks are saying it froze on some promotion.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

syntaxrigger posted:

NVM some folks are saying it froze on some promotion.

Hezbollah banner ads probably.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


i keep getting mailers for the texas cyber summit and one of the bullet points on them is that i will save 50% compared to black hat which really seems like a bad comparison

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

syntaxrigger posted:

NVM some folks are saying it froze on some promotion.

I loving love engaging with terrorist brands

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
Is crowdstrike Good Anti Virus?

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Apparently we are looking at getting Thycotic Privilege Manager. Does anyone here know anything about it? is it good, bad or a complete trash fire?

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Methanar posted:

Is crowdstrike Good Anti Virus?

it’s not an antivirus product (a la mccafe), but it does check those boxes for audit purposes, it’s less signature based and more behavior based.

more similar to Microsoft’s offerings, but works on win/mac/linux.

i work at crowdstrike

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






ate poo poo on live tv posted:

it’s not an antivirus product (a la mccafe), but it does check those boxes for audit purposes, it’s less signature based and more behavior based.

more similar to Microsoft’s offerings, but works on win/mac/linux.

i work at crowdstrike

Release the Ukranian server!

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


we use crowdstrike and it did trigger a suspicious activity alert or something when I was trying out some vendor binaries or whatever so that was kind of impressive and indicates it does what it says.

shame it didn't do it until the third time I ran them tho

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

Chris Knight posted:

Hmm, looks like Uzbeks have been drinking your battery fluid again.

wouldn't have expected it with the whole landlocked nation thing

ewiley
Jul 9, 2003

More trash for the trash fire

Methanar posted:

Is crowdstrike Good Anti Virus?

Seems OK, I'm holding on to carbon black until VMWare destroys it, then I'll probably move to falcon.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

fritz posted:

wouldn't have expected it with the whole landlocked nation thing

don't give them money or matches. and don't encourage them to gamble or drink. they are the weak link in the great chain of socialism.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010
is Twitter facing some scary legal action or something?

hard to believe they'd suddenly admit to dumping people's 2FA info into the ad database unless they were real nervous about a current lawsuit

https://mobile.twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/1181661080033955840

mystes
May 31, 2006

Main Paineframe posted:

is Twitter facing some scary legal action or something?

hard to believe they'd suddenly admit to dumping people's 2FA info into the ad database unless they were real nervous about a current lawsuit

https://mobile.twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/1181661080033955840
The other way to look at it is that it took them more than a year to check whether they were doing this after Facebook got in hot water for the same thing. If they were doing this outside the US it's probably illegal in some places they were doing it.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Telling people you're collecting their phone numbers for the purpose of providing 2-factor authentication, and then doing literally anything with them that isn't about providing 2-factor authentication, is a pretty straight-up GDPR violation. You're only allowed to use personal data for the reasons you stated when collecting it.

Oh, and if you find out your company is doing more than that, and you try to sit on that info instead of shouting it from the rooftops, that's an easy ticket to fined-4%-of-global-revenuetown, population you.

geonetix
Mar 6, 2011


i can’t wait for the first 4% fine to happen

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

geonetix posted:

i can’t wait for the first 4% fine to happen

Extremely same but I'm not holding my breath.

mystes
May 31, 2006

https://twitter.com/digitallawyer/status/1181348689756864513

Unfortunately companies will really call you and then ask you to verify who you are with stuff like PINs and there's often nothing you can do except insist on calling them back which will make them indignant and waste 30 minutes of your time.

They need to have a way for you to verify that the call is legitimate, but considering that most banks have only just started to move toward telling people "log in and do X" rather than "click on this link that may not even be to our normal domain" in emails so I have no hopes that this situation will improve any time soon.

mystes fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Oct 9, 2019

geonetix
Mar 6, 2011


Volmarias posted:

Extremely same but I'm not holding my breath.

didn't BA get hit with 1.8% (or was it 2.8%?) of revenue for being magecarted? nice last in-eu-move by the ICO

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

mystes posted:

https://twitter.com/digitallawyer/status/1181348689756864513

Unfortunately companies will really call you and then ask you to verify who you are with stuff like PINs and there's often nothing you can do except insist on calling them back which will make them indignant and waste 30 minutes of your time.

i've never been asked for my member number to confirm a transaction wasn't mine before so that might be something to look out for. what are they going to do, let the fraudulent transaction go through if you can't prove your identity?

SeaborneClink
Aug 27, 2010

MAWP... MAWP!
answering the phone was the op's first and only mistake

mystes
May 31, 2006

Shame Boy posted:

i've never been asked for my member number to confirm a transaction wasn't mine before so that might be something to look out for. what are they going to do, let the fraudulent transaction go through if you can't prove your identity?
I haven't had that exact experience, but I basically never answer phone calls now.

For one of my father's credit cards they literally did call and started asking for all sorts of personal information to verify his identity when there was fraudulent activity. I think they did automatically reject the charges, but they also deactivated his card and he wouldn't have been able to use it without talking to them. He did end up telling them he was going to call them back for security reasons and they seemed confused as to why he would do that but it worked ok.

Ideally nobody should trust caller id now considering that everyone gets like 500 calls a day where the caller id is obviously fake, but who knows. There's probably overlap between people who answer their phones and people who are likely to fall for scams anyway.

mystes fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Oct 9, 2019

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



mystes posted:

https://twitter.com/digitallawyer/status/1181348689756864513

Unfortunately companies will really call you and then ask you to verify who you are with stuff like PINs and there's often nothing you can do except insist on calling them back which will make them indignant and waste 30 minutes of your time.

They need to have a way for you to verify that the call is legitimate, but considering that most banks have only just started to move toward telling people "log in and do X" rather than "click on this link that may not even be to our normal domain" in emails so I have no hopes that this situation will improve any time soon.

I had the exact same thing happen to me a couple months ago and I balked at giving out my PIN as well. Fortunately my (very local) bank issued me a new card, changed my user ID and made me come into a branch location to verify my identity before they would unlock any kind of remote access to my account.

mystes
May 31, 2006

I think supposedly someone knowing your pin is also considered proof that a transaction was authorized in a lot of places, so for the banks to train people to give it out over the phone is completely loving insane.

You're not legally the one on the hook when it's fraudulent charges to your credit card, but if you get phished and give out your pin, god even knows. The bank will probably say it's your fault.

mystes fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Oct 9, 2019

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

mystes posted:

I haven't had that exact experience, but I basically never answer phone calls now.

yeah that's the other thing, never answer your phone unless you personally recognize who's calling or you're expecting it (like you triggered the fraud check yourself by traveling or whatever)

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


in what hosed up world would your bank even be able to see your pin to do that? that's like the easiest vector to ever possibly leave open because having any scenarios where they might ask voids the "we will never ask for your pin" stuff that should be printed on every card

i think last time I got a call from my bank it was "did you just order a jacket from this shop?" and I was like "yeah and you fuckers blocked it" and they apologised and it went through

i still own the jacket 4 years later so it was a good purchase

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Powerful Two-Hander posted:

in what hosed up world would your bank even be able to see your pin to do that? that's like the easiest vector to ever possibly leave open because having any scenarios where they might ask voids the "we will never ask for your pin" stuff that should be printed on every card

They don't and that's what finally tripped my sluggish mind that the call I got wasn't legit. I hung up and called the fraud department just like the in the tweets above.

Even though I *know* better, they initially sucked me in because they spoofed the caller ID to show up as my bank on my phone.

mystes
May 31, 2006

Oh you were talking about a scam call? It totally wouldn't surprise me if some lovely bank asked for a pin over the phone, unfortunately.

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Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Proteus Jones posted:

They don't and that's what finally tripped my sluggish mind that the call I got wasn't legit. I hung up and called the fraud department just like the in the tweets above.

Even though I *know* better, they initially sucked me in because they spoofed the caller ID to show up as my bank on my phone.

oh got it I sort of confused your post and another about pin as verification

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