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Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

:toot:

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Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:
This means there's still hope for the PS4 Breakers/Breakers Revenge port!

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

So that explains why he did not answer. He had no mouth to answer with. There is nothing left of him but his ears.

https://twitter.com/4cJoe/status/1181657095776735232?s=19

teh_Broseph
Oct 21, 2010

THE LAST METROID IS IN
CATTIVITY. THE GALAXY
IS AT PEACE...
Lipstick Apathy

Big Scary Owl posted:

I'm dumb, can someone explain if you can implement GGPO with 3D fgs?

I think this vid is the one for the long version answer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jb0FOcImdg. I never watched it for the short answer but I think it's like that Sajam vid where he said no you can't just drag and drop ggpo.zip in and be done it's way harder than that, but it's obviously do-able cause KI and MK, and since good online play is huuugggee for video games everyone should put the work in.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

The new excuse for not having ggpo will be rollbacks kill game flow

This is the excuse Examu gave for why Six Stars doesn't have good netcode

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
the documentation goes over the requirements and limitations in a lot more detail but basically
https://github.com/pond3r/ggpo/blob/master/doc/DevelopmentGuide.md

quote:

In order for this to work, your game engine must meet three criteria:

1. The game simulation must be fully deterministic. That is, for any given game state and inputs, advancing the game state by exactly 1 frame must result in identical game states for all players.
2. The game state must be fully encapsulated and serializable.
3. Your game engine must be able to load, save, and execute a single simulation frame without rendering the result of that frame. This will be used to implement rollbacks.

for the FBA build of GGPO that people are most familiar with, these requirements can usually be satisfied by brute forcing with emulator save states.
1. every game is loaded from a specially prepared save state to ensure both clients have the exact same initial conditions to guarantee determinism
2. the game state is entirely stored in RAM which is captured by a save state
3. GGPO-FBA continuously saves and loads save states in the background to accomplish rollback

Modern 3D games are a lot more complicated which makes this brute force method more difficult:
1. stuff like player profiles and a system clock means deterministic state can't ever be established
2. there's a hell of a lot more going on in RAM like 3d geometry and physics...
3. ...that can't be saved and loaded in real time fast enough for rollback to work properly

Even a 2D game like UNIEL might have a lot of stuff going on under the hood that makes the brute force method impossible, but I think the poverty game casters work similarly to ggpo-fba so it might not be as difficult as something like Tekken

Merilan
Mar 7, 2019

actually reading about how GGPO works from that github repository is... quite heady. it's a really interesting read

Ultramega
Jul 9, 2004


extremely good

shut up about mobas

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
Be nice to Sean

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

twelve made me laugh the hardest

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Is the Hugo one because you can duck under his attacks? I didn't get it and I was sad because I like Hugo.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Is the Hugo one because you can duck under his attacks? I didn't get it and I was sad because I like Hugo.

who cares that steiner clip is godlike

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

In Training posted:

who cares that steiner clip is godlike

right? i went and watched a bunch of youtube of his old matches bc of that

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

DOA6 is $20, and it looks like the perfect casual fight without thinking game I wish MK was sometimes. Should i bite?

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

RBX posted:

DOA6 is $20, and it looks like the perfect casual fight without thinking game I wish MK was sometimes. Should i bite?

Yes. Doa6 is a very fun game that can be enjoyed both on dumdum button smash level and on actual big brain nerd level

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Is the Hugo one because you can duck under his attacks? I didn't get it and I was sad because I like Hugo.
Its a pro wrestler whos loud and angry and has a hypeman. Hugo is a pro wrestler whos loud and angry and has a hypelady. Thats it.

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

https://twitter.com/MemeMongerBPM/status/1182055489120673792?s=20

Now that GGPO is open source anyone can write a caster for anything

Including +r

Sick! Thats DOPE
Aug 1, 2008

Oh sick man thats sick

lol the chunli part

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

RBX posted:

DOA6 is $20, and it looks like the perfect casual fight without thinking game I wish MK was sometimes. Should i bite?

yes. its fun and looks good

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest
This weekend, MK11 will be free to play on Xbone and Ps4, and 40% off. Base game will be $36, and the premium version with all the DLC and stuff will be $54.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Smoking Crow posted:

https://twitter.com/MemeMongerBPM/status/1182055489120673792?s=20

Now that GGPO is open source anyone can write a caster for anything

Including +r
Will we finally get a big bang beat caster

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe

RBX posted:

DOA6 is $20, and it looks like the perfect casual fight without thinking game I wish MK was sometimes. Should i bite?

Yes, DOA6 kicks rear end

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

doa has a really good tutorial too

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

Where does DOA6 stand in the fighting game discord racism/gamer words rankings?

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
Can't type gamer words if you're busy jackin' it.

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous



Akuma and Makato were adorable

It's fun to watch kids be little shits when they're not yours.

And now I really want a baby onsie w/ the Akuma back symbol

Xand_Man fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Oct 10, 2019

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

poo poo i need one for my two year old

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

chumbler posted:

Where does DOA6 stand in the fighting game discord racism/gamer words rankings?

DOA is played by a small group of hyper defensive nerds who are too desperate for respect to do such a thing, and then by a large group of horny nerds who are too busy masturbating to say gamer words

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Pomp posted:

DOA is played by a small group of hyper defensive nerds who are too desperate for respect to do such a thing, and then by a large group of horny nerds who are too busy masturbating to say gamer words

"its the closest thing to Virtua Fighter out these days"
-a thing i say fully knowing to set the age in settings as high as possible for bouncing upon bouncing

Thirsty Dog
May 31, 2007

Sick! Thats DOPE posted:

lol the chunli part

Idgi

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

Chun is the toppest or top tiers.

You better watch out

Zand
Jul 9, 2003

~ i'll take you for a ride ~ ride on a meteorite ~
chuns game in 3s is threatening with poo poo in to super and she can grab you from far away while you're scared

Smoking Crow
Feb 14, 2012

*laughs at u*

Pomp posted:

DOA is played by a small group of hyper defensive nerds who are too desperate for respect to do such a thing, and then by a large group of horny nerds who are too busy masturbating to say gamer words

I like doa

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Pomp posted:

DOA is played by a small group of hyper defensive nerds who are too desperate for respect to do such a thing, and then by a large group of horny nerds who are too busy masturbating to say gamer words
what about all the women

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
DOA has that weird softcore-porn paradox going on where it's primarily made for horny nerds, but as a direct result, it's got a lot of female characters who are important to the plot and do serious things and are all accomplished within their respective fields of endeavor. Even Honoka is some kind of high-school martial arts prodigy despite being a clumsy idiot.

So it's got more women playing it than you'd expect.

General Morden
Mar 3, 2013

GOTTA HAVE THAT PAX BISONICA

Sick! Thats DOPE posted:

lol the chunli part

yo redVIPER when you gonna play some 3s bro

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene

So which one are you?

somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place

Endorph posted:

what about all the women

women can be hentai addicted nerds too

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I can usually identify the most popular characters in a fighting game even if it's one I don't play but the whole DOA roster is one huge blur to me.

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Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

I for real play the dudes predominantly when I touch DOA, Rig's a hot guy, Eliot's cute, Bass is a big cool wrestler dad, Ryu Hayabusa is Ryu Hayabusa.

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