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Doltos posted:Players who don't want to spend money shouldn't be catered to, especially in a CCG. I mean I did spend money on MTGA but lmao this is such a weird thing to say. Drewjitsu posted:I think massacre girl is floating around in the sb of Golgari adventure as a 2x. I didn't leave in a huff at all, I got to high Mythic in my first 2 weeks in MTGA only using monou and regulars in the thread were condescending and salty as gently caress that I could play that one deck better than them. The same way you're condescending. It's good to be back, folks! 
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Oct 10, 2019 18:44
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Kawabata posted:On a side note I'm getting asked about bi/tricolor decks with such a level of enthusiasm that I'm deliberately withholding information on shock lands for fear of scaring them the gently caress away forever. Incredible that the poster that thinks dual lands are Too Scary (emphasis theirs) is mad that Mono-X Shitters isn't viable any more, maybe they'll have some luck if Devotion comes back in Theros. Hopefully they don't throw a fit that they have to play Castles and whatever other rare lands get printed! Kawabata posted:I didn't leave in a huff at all, I got to high Mythic in my first 2 weeks in MTGA only using monou and regulars in the thread were condescending and salty as gently caress that I could play that one deck better than them. The same way you're condescending. It's good to be back, folks! lmao at all this
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Oct 10, 2019 18:45
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*plays into sweeper every game and concedes on turn 5* gently caress U WIZZARDS
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Oct 10, 2019 18:47
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Kawabata posted:I didn't leave in a huff at all, I got to high Mythic in my first 2 weeks in MTGA only using monou and regulars in the thread were condescending and salty as gently caress that I could play that one deck better than them. The same way you're condescending. It's good to be back, folks! Take a break, Kawabata.
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Oct 10, 2019 18:51
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I played my 3rd ranked game after doing the tutorial and I got stomped by some guy running a tricolor deck and a bunch of crazy cards that broke wctoob economy. That was ah... Fun. Is matchmaking always that bad?
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Oct 10, 2019 18:51
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Lone Goat posted:*plays into sweeper every game and concedes on turn 5* gently caress U WIZZARDS oh man the salt is still there almost 1 year later
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Oct 10, 2019 18:54
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Funny, to me, to return from working out at the gem for a full year and to find you here, still posting about a childrens card game. Pitiful.
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Oct 10, 2019 18:56
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If red had a really strong one-drop the meta would be totally different. Fields is obviously busted, but part of the problem is that Circuitous Route isn't too slow when it absolutely should be.
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Oct 10, 2019 18:58
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Lone Goat posted:*plays into sweeper every game and concedes on turn 5* gently caress U WIZZARDS Also this is a really a bad post, even for you, because how do you not play into sweeper with Cavalcade monored. Either they have it or they don't my friend, it's the aggro life. Huxley posted:If red had a really strong one-drop the meta would be totally different. Fields is obviously busted, but part of the problem is that Circuitous Route isn't too slow when it absolutely should be. Not sure it's because the red 1 drops are necessarily lacking. Circuitous Route is a much bigger problem, I agree. Also the healing, 0/2 and 0/3s always blocking you early, and so on.
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Oct 10, 2019 19:02
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Kawabata posted:Also this is a really a bad post, even for you, because how do you not play into sweeper with Cavalcade monored. Either they have it or they don't my friend, it's the aggro life. No, it’s entirely that there are hardly any good 1 drop creatures. This deck existed before rotation and got annihilated by aggro.
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Oct 10, 2019 19:09
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There has to be an aggro deck strong enough to punish a gameplan that looks like tapland, Growth Spiral, Circuitous Route, Golos. You have to have cards that make "Teferi, bounce a guy" a coinflip of a speedbump and not the last meaningful action of the game. You can't even goldfish a T5 kill right now. I'm an aggro guy, and I get why people don't love playing against it. But being forced into a healthy respect for the beatdown deck is, in my experience, the most important ingredient to a good meta. Huxley fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Oct 10, 2019 |
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Oct 10, 2019 19:21
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Time posted:No, it’s entirely that there are hardly any good 1 drop creatures. This deck existed before rotation and got annihilated by aggro. I wasn't playing before rotation but Fervent Champion, Scorch Spitter, Dodger and Footlight Fiend are acceptable. Certainly not as good as Ghitu or Firebrand but it's not why I usually lose or see people lose. I find stuff like Arboreal Grazer or Goose absolutely devastating for aggro, for example. They look like bland, unimaginative cards that aren't fun to play or to play against, only there to mess with an archetype. Let's not even mention Oko. The metas where aggro is weak are also usually the worst in CCGs, way more obnoxious and time consuming than the ones where aggro is on par or better.
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Oct 10, 2019 19:23
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MRLOLAST posted:Hi MtG goons. I am a recent HS transplant and want to get in to MtG. I haven't played Magic since University and even then I just dabled in it a bit with a mono black Rotlung Reanimate deck. Hey there friend. Try Legendvd videos! Right now he has one upgrading the basic mono white and green, you can do those while you complete your quests and gather gold/gems
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Oct 10, 2019 19:26
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Kawabata posted:I wasn't playing before rotation but Fervent Champion, Scorch Spitter, Dodger and Footlight Fiend are acceptable. Certainly not as good as Ghitu or Firebrand but it's not why I usually lose or see people lose. I find stuff like Arboreal Grazer or Goose absolutely devastating for aggro, for example. They look like bland, unimaginative cards that aren't fun to play or to play against, only there to mess with an archetype. Let's not even mention Oko. They aren’t acceptable and there aren’t enough good low cmc creatures to support these decks. Oko wouldn’t be as big of problem if you had a real curve of threats that could knock them down to single digits before they could afford to make a dude or sac for life. This deck is just fine, it’s dominant because they did a bad job replacing low cmc guys rotating. It was tier 2 at best in the prior meta and oko would maybe have buffered that a little
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Huxley posted:There has to be an aggro deck strong enough to punish a gameplan that looks like tapland, Growth Spiral, Circuitous Route, Golos. You have to have cards that make "Teferi, bounce a guy" a coinflip of a speedbump and not the last meaningful action of the game. I beat a Golos Fields deck on T4 on the play because they didn't have Grazer or interaction and I had a near perfect draw with a deck designed to beat Golos Fields! Accomplishment! (It folds utterly to Simic decks) T1 Forest > Pelt: Opp @20 T2 Mountain > Wildborn Preserver > Pelt grows to 2 > Swing for 2: Opp @18 T3 Forest > Pelt Collecter #2 > Pump WP to 4 > Swing for 6: Opp @12 T4 Gruul Spellbreaker Hasted > PC#1 grows to 3, PC#2 grows to 2 > Swing for 12: Opp @0 Opp did T1 scryland, T2 Growth Spiral, T3 Circuitous. I won that match in game 3 after another quick start on the play with Questing Beast and Collision // Colossus. I wish this deck were good against anything but Golos Fields though. It folds to Simic decks, Golgari Midrange, and control decks with loaded sweepers.
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Oct 10, 2019 19:36
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Lone Goat posted:The most boring and hostile metas are the ones where the game always ends on turn 4, if RDW is the best deck in the format that means it's loving garbage. Lol, enjoy playing golos mirrors for the next few weeks. Its exactly what you deserve.
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Oct 10, 2019 19:39
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Internet Explorer posted:I played my 3rd ranked game after doing the tutorial and I got stomped by some guy running a tricolor deck and a bunch of crazy cards that broke wctoob economy. That was ah... Fun. Is matchmaking always that bad? If you play an unmodified starter deck, the game is supposed to try to match you with similar decks. But if nobody else is queuing at the same time, then you can meet pretty much anything.
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Oct 10, 2019 19:46
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Kawabata posted:oh man the salt is still there almost 1 year later buddy you're the one drowning in your own tears because the deck you love sucks. if you can only get to your mythic playing a single deck, perhaps you were never that good to begin with? born on goblin chainwhirler and thought they hit a triple.
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Oct 10, 2019 19:47
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Kramering into the thread to remind everyone how good I am at magic by talking how I'm playing bad decks with no cards and can't win please, never change
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Oct 10, 2019 19:48
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I think the original complaint that the meta sucks and aggro isn’t viable is a real and valid one
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I mean if you boil down the complaint to its simplest form and ignore both the complainer and the rest of what they said, sure
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Sjonkel posted:If you play an unmodified starter deck, the game is supposed to try to match you with similar decks. But if nobody else is queuing at the same time, then you can meet pretty much anything. He said he's playing ranked so that is not true.
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AnEdgelord posted:Lol, enjoy playing golos mirrors for the next few weeks. Its exactly what you deserve. The most satisfying game of constructed I've played this season was dance vs golos, where I won because they had 6 cards left in their deck and none of them were lands so they conceded. I was not milling them. I'd rather play five 20 minute games than twenty 5 minute games.
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Oct 10, 2019 19:54
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Lone Goat posted:I'd rather play five 20 minute games than twenty 5 minute games. He's delusional, get him out of here!
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Oct 10, 2019 19:56
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Lone Goat posted:I'd rather play five 20 minute games than twenty 5 minute games. I'm the total opposite, but it's pretty obvious 20+ years on that a healthy meta has room for both and part of the appeal of this game is that it usually supports playing it both ways with some degree of success. If MTG were just two decades of midrange slogs the game wouldn't have made it out of the cradle.
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MikeCrotch posted:It feels like the lack of decent aggro is allowing these multicolour piles since having lands come into play tapped isnt punished I just wanted to say that I am somewhat of a connoisseur of red text avatars, and that yours is probably the best one I have ever seen. So *petty*. So *specific*. So *absurd*. 
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Oct 10, 2019 20:02
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"My favorite game was smashing two busted rear end decks together for 55 draws" is one hell of a take
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Bust Rodd posted:Kramering into the thread to remind everyone how good I am at magic by talking how I'm playing bad decks with no cards and can't win Nah I expressed the opinion (shared by many in and out of this thread unless you're Doltos and you like 30 minute games) that the meta is very bad because aggro is bad, got very specific too, but I immediately got the "lmao it's kawabata the circlejerk regulars don't like him, don't listen to him" reply. The thread is richer if you listen to everyone's opinion, regardless of personality and whether you like another poster or not. You can always use the "hurrrr kawabata" old excuse when I actually have a controversial opinion, which is not now. Kawabata fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Oct 10, 2019 |
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on the other hand you could try to be less constantly abrasive instead of telling people that they should listen to you in spite of your personality
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Jesus Christ, fix your broken client, Wizards. Constant disconnects and failed to reconnect bugs in BO3 draft. Sent in two tickets, no response except "these look like duplicate tickets so we'll close this one!" gently caress. Off. Returned to the subreddit to take a quick look and others are raging about this too. For once it's deserved.
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I mean your post immediately delegitimizes itself when you start off with “what kinda bullshit is Massacre Girl” when that card hasn’t been on anyone’s mind since literally War dropped. Aggro isn’t bad right now because removal is too good or whatever, it’s bad because you can just clog the floor with an infinite number of free 2/2s while casting other spells.
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flatluigi posted:on the other hand you could try to be less constantly abrasive instead of telling people that they should listen to you in spite of your personality Be honest now, this time I wasn't abrasive to anyone and I was attacked first for absolutely no reason, the posts are there for everyone to see. Anyway, I almost finished Golgari Adventure and the variant Wyatt was playing yesterday. I'll try them and see how they do before I give up and impulse craft Golos. Still very perplexed about the state of monored and monou. Or lack thereof for the latter.
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Oh yeah, he's my favorite gimmick poster in the thread. He was like, 1000000th in legend once in HS so 2 weeks is totally enough time to know everything in MTG except now his 1 super easy deck rotated. Also has anyone tried that mono-white aggro deck from fandom legends? It seems reasonably strong, especially if you can block a board wipe just 1 time by making your guys indestructible.
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Oceanbound posted:Jesus Christ, fix your broken client, Wizards. Constant disconnects and failed to reconnect bugs in BO3 draft. Sent in two tickets, no response except "these look like duplicate tickets so we'll close this one!" gently caress. Off. Returned to the subreddit to take a quick look and others are raging about this too. For once it's deserved. I had a few disconnects last week, but nothing as crazy as this: https://twitter.com/CubeApril/status/1182313716274143232?s=19
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Sjonkel posted:If you play an unmodified starter deck, the game is supposed to try to match you with similar decks. But if nobody else is queuing at the same time, then you can meet pretty much anything. They were doing ranked, so that protection isn't part of it.
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A Moose posted:Oh yeah, he's my favorite gimmick poster in the thread. He was like, 1000000th in legend once in HS so 2 weeks is totally enough time to know everything in MTG except now his 1 super easy deck rotated. Uhhhhh try 42 times legend, and 3 top 200 finishes back when HS was actually good. All while leading a healthy lifestyle and without professional HS anything aspirations. Also monou wasn't easy at all to pilot correctly, especially for a new player. Bust Rodd posted:I mean your post immediately delegitimizes itself when you start off with “what kinda bullshit is Massacre Girl” when that card hasn’t been on anyone’s mind since literally War dropped. Not that Massacre Girl is ubiquitous or anything, but I'm finding it reasonably often and it's soul crushing for aggro, especially in a meta that's already so hostile to the archetype. I think some degree of frustration is acceptable there and it doesn't delegitimize my other posts at all.
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Kawabata posted:Uhhhhh try 42 times legend, and 3 top 200 finishes back when HS was actually good. All while leading a healthy lifestyle and without professional HS anything aspirations. Also monou wasn't super easy at all to pilot correctly, especially for a new player. First ballot HoF post right here imo. Just a career best, you don't see a five tool post like this often these days
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zoux posted:First ballot HoF post right here imo. Just a career best, you don't see a five tool post like this often these days Thanks, after Doltos saying 30 minutes games are the best and no CCG should ever cater to people not wanting to spend money I felt the thread needed a good post.
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Oceanbound posted:Jesus Christ, fix your broken client, Wizards. Constant disconnects and failed to reconnect bugs in BO3 draft. Sent in two tickets, no response except "these look like duplicate tickets so we'll close this one!" gently caress. Off. Returned to the subreddit to take a quick look and others are raging about this too. For once it's deserved. Propaganda Hour posted:I had a few disconnects last week, but nothing as crazy as this: Much better devs than WotC's nascent in house team have wrestled with trying to make a Unity Engine game with good performance and failed. It's going to keep getting worse as the game gets bigger.
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