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Davros1 posted:Hardyz are famous for this There's a match where Jeff does the job for Waylon Mercy and Jeff barely looks old enough to drive. Mercy just loving annihilates him with a brainbuster at one point.
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Jeff also carried King Mabel on his throne in 95.
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Ken Shamrock jobbing in 1988 blows my mind. Also the Hardy's did mocap work for one or both of WrestleMania 2000 and No Mercy.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Also the Hardy's did mocap work for one or both of WrestleMania 2000 and No Mercy. It was Attitude.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Ken Shamrock jobbing in 1988 blows my mind.
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The moves in the AKI games were hand-animated as far as I know. Warzone and Attitude used mocap, and all the moves looked godawful.
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Doc M posted:The moves in the AKI games were hand-animated as far as I know. Warzone and Attitude used mocap, and all the moves looked godawful. yeah it didn't really matter how good the Hardys are, mid-90s mocapping technology did them absolutely no favors
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scotty too hotty did a lot of jobbing in the early 90s
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Dlo Brown worked as a job guy for a bit. Scott D’Amore also got some work in the mid 90s. Mike Bell was another really common jobber but I don’t think he was under contract oh but seriously I posted:i think around "The Goon" period they were experimenting with having a regular jobber crew with crazy gimmicks Yeah The Goon, Who, Alex Porteau and TL Hopper were all brought in as jobbers with gimmicks. There may have been a few others too.
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Has there been a worse top babyface in WWE than Seth fr*cking Rollins?
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Has there been a worse top babyface in WWE than Seth fr*cking Rollins? Vince McMahon, speaking through the body and with the voice of Roman Reigns, was extremely bad. I think the current state of the product is maybe giving people rose tinted glasses about Roman on top but I bet there wouldn't be much difference in public opinion if you transplanted 2015-16 Roman with 2019 Seth and vice versa.
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I was just reminded of one of my favorite lower-mid level guy who really leaned into it in WCW. "Above Average" Mike Sanders.
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Has there been a worse top babyface in WWE than Seth fr*cking Rollins? I still want to think Diesel is worse due to just tanking the entire business for the fed during his run but the Wyatt feud is sure making a good case for Rollins
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CopywrightMMXI posted:
Freddie Joe Floyd and Salvatore Sincere, too. They all started around the 1996 King of the Ring.
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rollins was also a very failed top heel, let's not forget this
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TriffTshngo posted:Vince McMahon, speaking through the body and with the voice of Roman Reigns, was extremely bad. I think the current state of the product is maybe giving people rose tinted glasses about Roman on top but I bet there wouldn't be much difference in public opinion if you transplanted 2015-16 Roman with 2019 Seth and vice versa. Every top babyface is the worst top babyface in WWE TYOOV 2019
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Doc M posted:The moves in the AKI games were hand-animated as far as I know. Warzone and Attitude used mocap, and all the moves looked godawful. The current series back when it was still Smackdown and then Smackdown vs. Raw was hand animated for quite a while too. The mocapped stuff looks slower, weaker, and most importantly meant the death of Create a Finisher.
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Aphrodite posted:The current series back when it was still Smackdown and then Smackdown vs. Raw was hand animated for quite a while too. The mocapped stuff looks slower, weaker, and most importantly meant the death of Create a Finisher. Also if you hand-animate you don't need wrestlers to pull punches or work unsafe moves. The Steiner Screwdriver in No Mercy is you just straight dropping a dude on the crown of his head like a railroad spike and you can practically see his spine move two inches towards his rear end in a top hat. Now everyone's working safe, and if I wanted that I'd just watch wrestling
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I think Colt Cabana has been involved in a lot of the mocap for recent WWE 2k games, they were sponsoring his podcast during release month because of that the last few years.
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SatoshiMiwa posted:I still want to think Diesel is worse due to just tanking the entire business for the fed during his run but the Wyatt feud is sure making a good case for Rollins Rollins is tanking the entire business.
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Lid posted:Rollins is tanking the entire business. They don't know how to book a top guy and never have. Name the last one who got over because of them instead of in spite of them.
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The Young Bucks and Ohno were doing Mocap for a couple of the games in the last few years. I remember the SAFETY OF THE MOVES being totally ridiculous at times. I think it was either 12 or 13 that featured a Package Piledriver which was a package piledriver setup, but then delicately dropping the wrestler on their chest instead of their head.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4e_EeDx99U
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Diabolik900 posted:It was Mattitude. Fixed that for ya. On the subject of jobbers, it amazed me that quite a few midcarders became jobbers back in the Hulkamania era. Guys like Jim Powers and the Killer Bees for example. The one that stands out the most is Paul Roma, who went from midcard to jobber, back to midcard with Power and Glory, and then to WCW where he did... stuff ?
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LividLiquid posted:It'd be Reigns if it weren't Rollins. It'd be Cena if it weren't Reigns, though eventually, Cena figured out ways to succeed in spite of how WWE booked him. BRAUN
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extradite THIS! posted:Does anyone have the excellent and incomprehensible "davebnmeltzer" post lying around somewhere? I can never find it when I want to read it Daniel Bryan posted:Honestly whatvdvabenmeltzter said about Dean Amanda's do flux every telling. Also th where at r wee sees himself as a a superstars in the friend pro tip for finding it again in future google “daniel bryan “dean amanda” site:forums.somethingawful.com”
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I should probably save it.
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jesus WEP posted:I got you fam Hell yes, thank you  My problem is I can kind of remember the post but recall the particular typos that would make it easy to search for wrong. "dean amanda" is a good keyword to remember.
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Also if you need the other all time classic just google ‘sramaker "request to being banned" fools’
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jesus WEP posted:Also if you need the other all time classic just google ‘sramaker "request to being banned" fools’ Is this the gamergate guy? 
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LividLiquid posted:It'd be Reigns if it weren't Rollins. It'd be Cena if it weren't Reigns, though eventually, Cena figured out ways to succeed in spite of how WWE booked him. Agree 100% and I think if Cena hadn't found a way out he'd only be tanking things slightly less than the other two at this point but then again he might actually just be winning his matches instead of that HiaC bullshit.
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STONE COLD 64 posted:The Young Bucks and Ohno were doing Mocap for a couple of the games in the last few years. I remember the SAFETY OF THE MOVES being totally ridiculous at times. I think it was either 12 or 13 that featured a Package Piledriver which was a package piledriver setup, but then delicately dropping the wrestler on their chest instead of their head. Isn't that the Neutralizer?
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An Actual Bear posted:Is this the gamergate guy?
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Schneider Heim posted:What are the best heel promos of all time? (No slurs) It's heel Jake the Snake and his cocaine sweats all the way down.
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There's this one Jake promo I can barely remember the context for, where he confesses that he doesn't know why he's always been driven to be bad just for its own sake, and keeps repeating "It's not my fault!" Wish I could find it.
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Jake had that creepy promo about Elizabeth. "In time, I can mold her into something even I can love." or something like that
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:Has there been a worse top babyface in WWE than Seth fr*cking Rollins? I'm going to say Lex Luger. He was basically Vince's attempt to replace Hogan, but without any of the explosive charisma or the ability to win important matches. His run as top guy goes as thus: - Badass, albeit random, face turn where he shows up via helicopter at the USS Intrepid to bodyslam Yokozuna. - Builds towards his SummerSlam title match via the Lex Express. Those segments were death to watch. - Even though it's stated that SummerSlam is his one and only shot against Yokozuna for the title, Luger wins via count-out and celebrates as if he won the title. - Pivots into a feud with Ludvig Borga (aka Dumpy Lesnar) and does win the feud via being the sole survivor in the Survivor Series main event. - Gets to be in the Royal Rumble as his "okay, but after THIS, no more opportunities at Yokozuna's title" window into the championship. He co-wins with Bret Hart and the post-match reaction from the crowd makes it apparent that Bret is way more popular. - In the WrestleMania X mini-tournament, Luger gets first shot at Yokozuna. Right before the match, it's announced that Mr. Perfect (who hadn't been heard from in months) is the special referee. Perfect proceeds to screw Luger over and the two get in a pull-apart brawl backstage. Perfect immediately vanishes off TV, meaning Luger has no way of getting his heat back. - Luger spends the next half a year feuding with the Million Dollar Corporation, which could presumably help him bounce back into the main event. Instead, he loses the feud at Survivor Series. He spends the remainder of the WWF run in a tag team with the British Bulldog. Bulldog turns heel and Luger is a left in the dust. His last major appearance is at SummerSlam, where he does a run-in to help Diesel, but Diesel beats him up anyway.
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Yeah but torture rack > curb stomp
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Helicity posted:Yeah but torture rack > curb stomp But Luger didn't do the torture rack in WWF.
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Gavok posted:But Luger didn't do the torture rack in WWF.
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Randaconda posted:Jake had that creepy promo about Elizabeth. “I could cultivate her into something I could want!” is the capstone to that promo, and it’s somehow the least creepiest thing in the entire promo. The most is him, heavily breathing, begging Macho to bring her with him the next time they cross paths. It just builds and builds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXuo6In8d_w
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