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Got the crazy idea to make a jund sac deck work off the brawl dragon dude and a bunch of rats and have been moderately successful with the jank below. Any ideas on how to tighten it up? Idea is to ramp into Korvold and get him huge/ping people to death off the rat tokens he makes with mad ratter + card draw. Cats seem too slow for it plus they clearly wouldn't get along with the rats. So far haven't had any issues with the manabase but I feel like it can stall out a bit easily (although that might just be my not mulling aggressive enough like the r/b sac deck) 4 Blood Crypt (RNA) 245 2 Castle Locthwain (ELD) 241 4 Fabled Passage (ELD) 244 3 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253 3 Stomping Ground (RNA) 259 2 Swamp (ANA) 58 1 Mountain (ANA) 59 2 Forest (ANA) 60 3 Gilded Goose (ELD) 160 3 Gutterbones (RNA) 76 1 Claim the Firstborn (ELD) 118 2 Angrath's Rampage (WAR) 185 1 Assassin's Trophy (GRN) 152 2 Once Upon a Time (ELD) 169 3 Paradise Druid (WAR) 171 3 Piper of the Swarm (ELD) 100 2 Priest of Forgotten Gods (RNA) 83 1 Ayara, First of Locthwain (ELD) 75 2 Bedevil (RNA) 157 4 Mayhem Devil (WAR) 204 2 Mad Ratter (ELD) 130 2 Rankle, Master of Pranks (ELD) 101 2 Vraska, Golgari Queen (GRN) 213 1 Syr Konrad, the Grim (ELD) 107 3 Korvold, Fae-Cursed King (ELD) 329 2 Temple of Malady (M20) 254 2 Veil of Summer (M20) 198 2 Find // Finality (GRN) 225 2 Legion's End (M20) 106 1 Drill Bit (RNA) 73 3 Noxious Grasp (M20) 110 1 Bedevil (RNA) 157 2 Ashiok, Dream Render (WAR) 228 2 Assassin's Trophy (GRN) 152
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Propaganda Hour posted:Aw come on I was about to do the drat thing. I fought this and I was super confused as to what was going on but then they died before getting an explosion off
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Oct 16, 2019 07:52
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an cow posted:Got the crazy idea to make a jund sac deck work off the brawl dragon dude and a bunch of rats and have been moderately successful with the jank below. Any ideas on how to tighten it up? Idea is to ramp into Korvold and get him huge/ping people to death off the rat tokens he makes with mad ratter + card draw. Cats seem too slow for it plus they clearly wouldn't get along with the rats. So far haven't had any issues with the manabase but I feel like it can stall out a bit easily (although that might just be my not mulling aggressive enough like the r/b sac deck) Hey we played earlier. Neat. I was also playing a Jund mess.
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Oct 16, 2019 09:48
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this deck seems kind of fun https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-92-wb-prison-standard-magic-arena
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Oct 16, 2019 12:36
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starkebn posted:this deck seems kind of fun I'm assuming they meant to put Fabled Passage in, not Evolving Wilds?
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Oct 16, 2019 13:02
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I installed this this weekend because a couple of friends started playing it. I haven't played magic in a longass time and holy poo poo this version is way quicker and more fun to play than IRL magic. And, I don't have to spend cash I guess. Also, absolutely loving the sounds swamps make. Can't believe I'm enjoying magic in tyool 2019 this much but game's good. 
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Oct 16, 2019 13:06
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Shooting Blanks posted:I'm assuming they meant to put Fabled Passage in, not Evolving Wilds? I thought that too but its because its the "budget" version. If you scroll down its included in the upgraded version. This deck seems fun. I played the doom dance deck a few times during the all cards event but didn't have a ton of success with it. I'm interested in trying to make doom work.
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Oct 16, 2019 13:07
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Assuming Field gets banned, I can see Doom/Dance decks becoming viable again.
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Oct 16, 2019 13:17
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Homers BBBq posted:I thought that too but its because its the "budget" version. If you scroll down its included in the upgraded version. This deck seems fun. I played the doom dance deck a few times during the all cards event but didn't have a ton of success with it. I'm interested in trying to make doom work. I just see in the main text "Looking to stick it to the top deck in Standard" which made me wonder. If you put this together let me know how it runs, it looks fun but drat that's a lot of WCs for me.
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Oct 16, 2019 13:19
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There is absolutely a playable Esper Dance deck somewhere in the format, it’s just one of the many viable strategies that is completely negated by 6-8 uncounterable power hitting the table 2-3 times a turn.
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Oct 16, 2019 13:25
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Drewjitsu posted:It still seems a little light with 6 basics. I'd probably run 7 or 8 with swamp and mountain being the last two, just to prevent doubling issues. You can run into some fotd activation problems if you draw basics in your starting 7. the manabase is super tricky, in addition to having diverse names for field, you also have to worry about actually being able to cast growth spiral on curve. if i put in a mountain or swamp i'd have to cut a spell for them. tbh i'm fine with the third circuitous route not being good or whatever
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Oct 16, 2019 13:43
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Not sure what I should cut here:  The bots don't seem to be passing as many So Tinies or Merfolk Secretkeepers, at least in that draft.
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Oct 16, 2019 13:45
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Arivia posted:Not sure what I should cut here: forever young isn't great because you don't have many good creatures that you'd actually want in the late game, you could put it in the sideboard and just wish for it if you end up wanting it. lost legion is a fine card but not really enough to justify the risk of trying to hit BB on turn 3 off of 8 swamps. spinning wheel is an easy cut
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Oct 16, 2019 13:51
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Propaganda Hour posted:Aw come on I was about to do the drat thing. Hey, it's my favorite tier 3 deck! Still can't deal with a resolved Teferi. I still remember when this deck was good but man I can't remember the last time a deck was so thoroughly destroyed by a single card. Shame, it could be a good counter to golos
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Oct 16, 2019 15:04
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Drafting with bots has always been not great, and not a real representation of how drafting actually works but until Eldraine its at least been a functional facsimile. They are completely horrid in Eldraine, and I'd argue drafting this set on Arena is actively bad. Blue/Black is open like 90% of the time and its ludicrously easy to force. I got a p3p8 Revenge of Ravens this morning. it was the 3rd one I was passed. This is not a fun experience. Playing the mill deck 3-4 times in a draft run is not fun. Blacks always open so every deck is ludicrously grindy and filled with removal. Aggro is bad in paper too, but there is basically no way on the client to put any reasonable aggro deck together. I might stop, or at least close to stop, drafting this set on arena unless they do something about it. its a shame, being able to draft whenever you want and take your time is such a good thing to have but the system is just broken.
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Oct 16, 2019 15:13
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Paul Zuvella posted:Drafting with bots has always been not great, and not a real representation of how drafting actually works but until Eldraine its at least been a functional facsimile. Yea, with each draft I enter I'm getting more and more annoyed at the endless blue (optionally black) mill decks.
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Oct 16, 2019 15:19
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I have been able to regularly draft 3-4 Bake Into a Pie on Arena, because the bots are fine with letting that get to pick 5 regularly. It's gross
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Oct 16, 2019 16:32
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kater posted:Hey we played earlier. Neat. I was also playing a Jund mess. I was about to ask which Mythic ranked Golos Fires player you were. Sup.
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Oct 16, 2019 17:26
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Paul Zuvella posted:Drafting with bots has always been not great, and not a real representation of how drafting actually works but until Eldraine its at least been a functional facsimile. I'm only still drafting because I am trying to get a full rare playset. Only about 16 more drafts to go (I've done 12 so far).
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Oct 16, 2019 18:33
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Paul Zuvella posted:Drafting with bots has always been not great, and not a real representation of how drafting actually works but until Eldraine its at least been a functional facsimile. Pretty much positive they set the bots to exclusively hunt rares and draft rares. Out of 10ish limited drafts and two traditional drafts I only hit more than 3 rares once. I don't mind if they still snap up all the rares they should at least stop hunting uncommons too so we stop seeing strong common cards flooding everything. This makes the mill even more ridiculous since the four secretkeepers that hit the board already might just be the tip of the iceberg in some peoples decks. I just want them to get some playtesters to make limited decks, slot them into bots, and have those bots hunt those decks.
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Oct 16, 2019 18:44
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why, why do I play sealed, this was so dumb. I have some decent green-black synergy, the rest of the colors are garbage.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:45
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sephiRoth IRA posted:why, why do I play sealed, this was so dumb. I have some decent green-black synergy, the rest of the colors are garbage. You probably shouldn’t be playing tournament grounds in a b/g deck. Also probably shouldn’t be playing a quad black card (which the b/r hybrid guy is)
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Oct 16, 2019 19:47
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Look Around You posted:You probably shouldn’t be playing tournament grounds in a b/g deck. Also probably shouldn’t be playing a quad black card (which the b/r hybrid guy is) I was thinking it would be a good late game damage engine with the food sacs, but you might be right.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:50
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i'd sub out headhunter for reaper, one noble or pair for your paladin, and consider barrow witches over wolf's quarry since you didn't pick up any of the big food bombs also what colorless artifacts do you have? i'd be shocked if you didn't open any usable ones
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Oct 16, 2019 19:53
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seriously though why is that tournament grounds in there?
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also that deck is like three artifacts away from being decent mono black, and now I'm curious about the rest of the pool to see if it could be a 14/3 Bx deck
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sephiRoth IRA posted:why, why do I play sealed, this was so dumb.
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Lone Goat posted:seriously though why is that tournament grounds in there? I'd guess for the headhunter? edit: Lone Goat posted:also that deck is like three artifacts away from being decent mono black, and now I'm curious about the rest of the pool to see if it could be a 14/3 Bx deck oh god yeah I didn't even look at that (because I like keeper of fables so much) but that's a really good point show the full pool! flatluigi fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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I opened a single glass slipper. I made the recommended changes, went 1-3, going back to the play queue in shame.
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Oct 16, 2019 20:15
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Limited bad standard bad so what
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Arglebargle III posted:Limited bad standard bad so what modern... good?
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Paul Zuvella posted:modern... good? Someone's heavily invested in Mox Opal futures I see
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I think Modern is probably not super healthy at a macro level, but I’ve been going to paper events for the past few weeks an I haven’t had this much fun playing Magic in forever. God bless MH1.
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Oct 16, 2019 21:58
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Modern is the healthiest format in the game besides Commander
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Oct 16, 2019 22:01
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Bust Rodd posted:Modern is the healthiest format in the game besides Commander Yeah that was whack that MTGA did Commander (or Brawl or EDH whatever the gently caress it's called) for a couple days and never followed up. I'd play that exclusively if I could. Especially if they did constructed or drafts instead of just the precons.
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Zero VGS posted:Yeah that was whack that MTGA did Commander (or Brawl or EDH whatever the gently caress it's called) for a couple days and never followed up. I'd play that exclusively if I could. Especially if they did constructed or drafts instead of just the precons. Also the codes will be emailed out, they aren't in the packages because... um... stuff Yay! Arena is firing on all cylinders this season!
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Spiderdrake posted:Good news! There are brawl events next weekend which are *check notes* in your local store and give... Two commons and a rare on arena as well as... Card styles? Oh and you have to buy one of the precons, likely at an inflated price, or maybe not as the events are slightly unclear. The last time I tried to play magic at a local card store I felt like a pedophile. Yes, mid-thirties guy, just go into this basement with a bunch of 14 year olds to play with them, nothing strange about that. edit: Said 14 year olds, of course, kicked my rear end in MtG.
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Oct 16, 2019 22:38
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So if you're trying to cast mesmeric gaze (hypnotic sprite) with a lucky clover out, in a normal situation, there's no way it doesn't end up in the graveyard, right?
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Oct 16, 2019 22:49
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Zero VGS posted:The last time I tried to play magic at a local card store I felt like a pedophile. Yes, mid-thirties guy, just go into this basement with a bunch of 14 year olds to play with them, nothing strange about that. Whereabouts do you live? I live in what passes for a big city on South Carolina and our local game stores are almost exclusively dudes in their 30’s/40’s with a smattering of college kids and maybe 1-2 high schoolers.
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resistentialism posted:So if you're trying to cast mesmeric gaze (hypnotic sprite) with a lucky clover out, in a normal situation, there's no way it doesn't end up in the graveyard, right? yeah, I think it has the same invalid target issue as all the other single-target adventures do when copied. they all probably should've been templated to say 'up to one target,' but I guess it never came up in testing (or might've even had a misruling in testing!)
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