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Schneider Heim posted:I asked because I'm writing a wrestling story that follows kayfabe and it involves the main character busting out a never-before seen move which I have to name for maximum impact, so I'm going to just let them yell it out loud. The Sodomizer
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Schneider Heim posted:I asked because I'm writing a wrestling story that follows kayfabe and it involves the main character busting out a never-before seen move which I have to name for maximum impact, so I'm going to just let them yell it out loud. yes do this
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Oct 22, 2019 09:01
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Seams posted:Wrestlers should scream the name of their finishing move as loud as possible when they do it Same, but every move.
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Oct 22, 2019 09:18
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Kennel posted:Same, but every move. My plans foiled because I laid on my back screaming “LADY OF THE LAKE” while my opponent stomped me straight to Hell
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Oct 22, 2019 09:35
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jesus WEP posted:ZSJ just screaming HURRAH! ANOTHER YEAR, SURELY THIS ONE WILL BE BETTER THAN THE LAST; THE INEXORABLE MARCH OF PROGRESS WILL LEAD US ALL TO HAPPINESS while wrenching on several body parts at once ZSJ is really good. edit: hang on let me rephrase that as a question ZSJ is really good?
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Oct 22, 2019 10:47
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Oct 22, 2019 10:57
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Yeah, they tell the commentators which is why Michael Cole always says SHE CALLS IT THE PTO THE PAIGE TAP OUT instead of just PAIGE TAP OUT like a normal person. This would work better if he had like a regular name "That's a reverse armbreaker neck hold but she calls it the PAIGE TAP OUT" or whatever.
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Oct 22, 2019 13:27
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Schneider Heim posted:When wrestlers debut a new move or finisher, the commentary team is usually given a heads up on what it's called, right? Has there been instances wherein the wrestler themselves say what the move's called? The Chikara Special fits in with this. Mike Quackenbush and Chris Hero had a lengthy feud where Hero kept ducking a singles match until he got overconfident. The match played up how well the two knew each other and their moves, culminating in Quack busting out a new submission that Hero had no answer to and tapped out. On the DVD, Quack cut a post-match promo where he named it the Chikara Special and threatened to teach it to all of his students so everyone could make Hero tap. But my favorite story for how a move got named is when Bret Hart started his singles career. Nobody knew how to call his finisher until he did a match on Wrestling Challenge, where Jim Neidhart was on the commentary team. Neidhart referred to it as the Sharpshooter because of course Bret tells him these things.
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Oct 22, 2019 14:40
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Schneider Heim posted:When wrestlers debut a new move or finisher, the commentary team is usually given a heads up on what it's called, right? Has there been instances wherein the wrestler themselves say what the move's called? That reminds me of Survivor Series 1990 when the Undertaker was supposed to be a surprise mystery man that nobody but Dibiase and Brother Love knew about, and then Gorilla yells "TOMBSTONE!!" when Taker hits it the very first time.
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Oct 22, 2019 14:46
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Wrestlers should always say the name of their finisher, and it should always, always be a pun on their own name.
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Oct 22, 2019 14:59
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Alternately be like Jack Evans, loudly declare "Here's a move you've never seen!", do two backflips, a cartwheel and then rake the guy's eyes
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Oct 22, 2019 15:00
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Halloween Jack posted:Wrestlers should always say the name of their finisher, and it should always, always be a pun on their own name. You just made me lose The Game The Game in this case is remembering Kizarney existed
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Oct 22, 2019 15:04
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Pope Corky the IX posted:That reminds me of Survivor Series 1990 when the Undertaker was supposed to be a surprise mystery man that nobody but Dibiase and Brother Love knew about, and then Gorilla yells "TOMBSTONE!!" when Taker hits it the very first time. The tombstone had been around a while in wrestling, just nobody in NWA or WWE used it
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Oct 22, 2019 15:08
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Halloween Jack posted:Wrestlers should always say the name of their finisher, and it should always, always be a pun on their own name. This guy Gets pro wrestling 
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Oct 22, 2019 15:11
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jesus WEP posted:ZSJ just screaming HURRAH! ANOTHER YEAR, SURELY THIS ONE WILL BE BETTER THAN THE LAST; THE INEXORABLE MARCH OF PROGRESS WILL LEAD US ALL TO HAPPINESS while wrenching on several body parts at once
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Halloween Jack posted:Wrestlers should always say the name of their finisher, and it should always, always be a pun on their own name. So which is it? Halloween Jackknife or Halloween Jackhammer?
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Oct 22, 2019 17:21
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No, those are both poo poo. "Jackknife" and "Jackhammer" both sound like something violent. And neither name is long enough.
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Halloween Jack posted:No, those are both poo poo. "Jackknife" and "Jackhammer" both sound like something violent. And neither name is long enough. He calls that the Hit The Road Jack And Don't You Come Back!
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Oct 22, 2019 18:10
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Perfect. (It's the Overdrive, the best finisher)
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Oct 22, 2019 18:19
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Endless Mike posted:Yeah, they tell the commentators which is why Michael Cole always says SHE CALLS IT THE PTO THE PAIGE TAP OUT instead of just PAIGE TAP OUT like a normal person. wwe commentators are not allowed to say move names. its bleedingly obvious and annoying as hell once you hear, like, any other competent commentary team vince called everything the WHATTA MANEUVER. vince hates wrestling.
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Oct 22, 2019 19:07
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shiksa posted:wwe commentators are not allowed to say move names. its bleedingly obvious and annoying as hell once you hear, like, any other competent commentary team hey hey hey he called the BIIIIIIIIIIIIIG BACK BODYDROPS
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Oct 22, 2019 19:11
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The tombstone had been around a while in wrestling, just nobody in NWA or WWE used it Was it called a tombstone before undertaker did it? I always assumed the name related to his gimmick.
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Oct 22, 2019 19:35
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My finisher is an avalanche overdrive
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Oct 22, 2019 19:43
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I'm reminded that Jimmy Havoc yells "Rainmaker!" every time he does his lovely version of it and for some reason I find it very charming in a Laszlo Cravensworth sort of way.
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Oct 22, 2019 20:23
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what's going on with ICW these days? i kept up with it and PROGRESS like three years ago when the scene was hot before the NXT UK deal. i remember hearing talk that they might have to shut down since lionheart died
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STORM CRADLE DRIVERRRR
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Low Desert Punk posted:what's going on with ICW these days? i kept up with it and PROGRESS like three years ago when the scene was hot before the NXT UK deal. i remember hearing talk that they might have to shut down since lionheart died Hastened the death of the UK indy scene so Mark Dallas could show his pals the 2 texts Triple H sent him 3 years ago.
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Oct 22, 2019 21:50
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Hellblazer187 posted:Was it called a tombstone before undertaker did it? I always assumed the name related to his gimmick. It was called that before Taker, but I assume the conversation went something like: "Hey, this guy's an undertaker, what should his finisher be?" "How about a TOMBSTONE piledriver? Get it? Har har har!" "Actually yeah, why not"
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Hellblazer187 posted:Was it called a tombstone before undertaker did it? I always assumed the name related to his gimmick. Far as I remember it was just an inverted piledriver. Except in Mexico, it was a Martinete and was a dastardly move to do.
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Does Vince actually like wrestling? I know it seems like an obvious joke question, but for someone who spends his whole life 24/7 working in wrestling, I somehow can't picture him sitting down and watching a match just for the enjoyment of it.
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Vince has a very specific idea of what a good match is, so if that was what was on, I imagine he'd watch and enjoy. Vince Russo is the one I'm not sure actually likes wrestling as much as lovely bigoted melodrama.
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As "The Rock" Don Muraco, he used the Tombstone piledriver, but it was never called a Tombstone. First time I ever heard it called the Tombstone was at Taker's debut.
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Undertaker showed up for the "first time" at Survivor Series 1990 but he'd already been on a TV taping that was going to air afterward, so Gorilla accidentally called the Tombstone when he and Piper were supposed to have no idea who this guy was, since he'd already seen it before. Piper tried to cover for him and Gorilla pretty much immediately realized he hosed up, but they just sort of brush it aside afterward.
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Gaz-L posted:Vince has a very specific idea of what a good match is, so if that was what was on, I imagine he'd watch and enjoy. Vince Russo is the one I'm not sure actually likes wrestling as much as lovely bigoted melodrama. I've always thought Vince Russo thinks he likes wrestling, but is actually bored by most of it. That's why he always needs to make things more interesting, by adding a gimmick to every match and a swerve to every angle.
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Russo's entire aesthetic sense is down to the parts of tabloid talk shows where they get into staged fistfights. That's what he wants wrestling to be, and that's all he wants it to be. This explains most of the many problems with his approach to it.
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Thanks for the discussion. I had always thought the Tombstone was a Taker original. It's so iconic that they just call it that now. It's also fun to reverse-engineer what finishers actually are because I learn new poo poo like modified reverse crossbody grapplefuck or something. Okay, so a new question. Has anyone tried to make a wrestling promotion simulator? Like you're an indie trying to get a TV deal without getting gobbled up by the fed, something like that.
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Oct 23, 2019 02:51
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Schneider Heim posted:Thanks for the discussion. I had always thought the Tombstone was a Taker original. It's so iconic that they just call it that now. It's also fun to reverse-engineer what finishers actually are because I learn new poo poo like modified reverse crossbody grapplefuck or something. that's what games like TEW and EWR ostensibly are.
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Schneider Heim posted:Thanks for the discussion. I had always thought the Tombstone was a Taker original. It's so iconic that they just call it that now. It's also fun to reverse-engineer what finishers actually are because I learn new poo poo like modified reverse crossbody grapplefuck or something. Here's something to gently caress with your head: Bret Hart learned the Sharpshooter from Konnan.
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MassRafTer posted:Here's something to gently caress with your head: Bret Hart learned the Sharpshooter from Konnan. When did Sting start doing it?
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LividLiquid posted:Shut the gently caress up. No way! Sting got it from the inventor, Riki Choshu
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