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Admiral Joeslop posted:What would WWE even DO with Hogan at that time? I have doubts Austin would work with him unless it was somehow ironclad that Austin got to beat the poo poo out of Hogan who would never get his win back and if they don't pull the trigger on Austin or treat him like the top of the wrestling world as they did, what even happens? He'd have gotten so over that Vince would have hot shotted the title on him right before he cooled off just like in 2002.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:What would WWE even DO with Hogan at that time? I have doubts Austin would work with him unless it was somehow ironclad that Austin got to beat the poo poo out of Hogan who would never get his win back and if they don't pull the trigger on Austin or treat him like the top of the wrestling world as they did, what even happens? i'm guessing he would do the x-pac thing without losing first. be on every night, have his own stable, nobody wants to see him, etc most wwe guys knew about hogan's m.o by that point so basically everyone was like "hahaha no" whenever he pitches the idea of a return feud or whatever I mean the Rock got a good match out of him but that was the exception rather than the rule
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Low Desert Punk posted:Bischoff is very intelligent but also criminally stupid. It's pretty fascinating. russo has the same problem i think they just get full of themselves really easily
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Russo is not intelligent. He speaks slowly and clearly and sometimes people confuse that.
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coconono posted:Russo is not intelligent. He speaks slowly and clearly and sometimes people confuse that. he can write some good stories whenever he's not huffing a bag of his own farts, which is rarely
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Yinlock posted:he can write some good stories whenever he's not huffing a bag of his own farts, which is rarely
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Yinlock posted:he can write some good stories whenever he's not huffing a bag of his own farts, which is rarely you're gonna have to cite your sources on this one cuz I don't believe you.
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Yinlock posted:he can write some good stories whenever he's not huffing a bag of his own farts, which is rarely Lol
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Yinlock posted:he can write some good stories whenever he's not huffing a bag of his own farts, which is rarely Has he ever?
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I feel like I read once that a really good storyline was done by Russo. So good, in fact, that I can't remember it or if it actually happened.
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Yinlock posted:i'm guessing he would do the x-pac thing without losing first. be on every night, have his own stable, nobody wants to see him, etc Lol if you think Vince would listen to anybody's childish complaining about being forced to work with a much bigger star in 1998. Only person on his level at the time was Austin.
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coconono posted:you're gonna have to cite your sources on this one cuz I don't believe you. source: early attitude era where every wrestler was doing important things that made sense to their characters it hasn't happened at all since then but for a very limited time he was good like i'm not defending russo here, he is toxic as hell and sucks and ruins everything, but he once did something good Randaconda posted:Lol if you think Vince would listen to anybody's childish complaining about being forced to work with a much bigger star in 1998. Only person on his level at the time was Austin. hogan would only ever want to go against the most popular wrestlers(so he could bury them) so
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Yinlock posted:
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Randaconda posted:despite the numerous times he didn't? he's not stupid if hogan felt like someone else could take his spot as The Guy he stopped at nothing to gently caress with them see: his entire working relationship with randy savage quote:"Why won't Hogan let himself be booked 50/50 into flavorless mush???" in an imaginary world where i said this it would be very dumb indeed
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Yinlock posted:russo has the same problem Vince Russo is so dumb that the only time in his career he was involved in writing good wrestling it was because loving Vince McMahon was there to tell him when his ideas got too stupid. Because he routinely had ideas too dumb for Vince McMahon, the guy who signed off on Katie Vick.
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forkboy84 posted:Vince Russo is so dumb that the only time in his career he was involved in writing good wrestling it was because loving Vince McMahon was there to tell him when his ideas got too stupid. Because he routinely had ideas too dumb for Vince McMahon, the guy who signed off on Katie Vick. i dunno which one of them to credit really since i cannot imagine vince saying anything but "THAT'S SUCH GOOD poo poo" to the dumbest things
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oh but seriously I posted:goldberg was only "wrestling over" goldberg is a household name and currently hosts a spinoff of the knife forging reality game show cmon
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What is this good story Vince Russo wrote?
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LividLiquid posted:What is this good story Vince Russo wrote? "good" is probably an overstatement RAW Was Competently Booked For A While isn't as snappy though Yinlock fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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shiksa posted:goldberg is a household name and currently hosts a spinoff of the knife forging reality game show cmon i was doing a russo also the latter part is news to me
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His best story was written by Luna Vachon and Vampiro Guerrero.
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I suspect that any good story Russo ever wrote just by complete coincidence probably involved one or both of Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock, who incidentally are two of the biggest and most naturally charismatic/entertaining stars in pro-wrestling history.
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Jerusalem posted:I suspect that any good story Russo ever wrote just by complete coincidence probably involved one or both of Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock, who incidentally are two of the biggest and most naturally charismatic/entertaining stars in pro-wrestling history. tbf most of austin's stories were just "give stone cold a goal and watch him go loving insane working towards it"
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Yeah. God it was so loving cool.
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Yinlock posted:if hogan felt like someone else could take his spot as The Guy he stopped at nothing to gently caress with them Also anybody that's really over at the time. Hogan tried like hell to get Pillman into that loving terrible Doomsday Cage Match at Uncensored '96 because everyone was talking about the Loose Cannon and Hogan wanted to kill his heat. So Pillman scheduled a surgery so even Hogan's creative control couldn't force him into that debacle.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Also anybody that's really over at the time. Hogan tried like hell to get Pillman into that loving terrible Doomsday Cage Match at Uncensored '96 because everyone was talking about the Loose Cannon and Hogan wanted to kill his heat. So Pillman scheduled a surgery so even Hogan's creative control couldn't force him into that debacle. Pillman was already gone from WCW by the time of the doomsday cage match iirc
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this was when he worked Bischoff intogetting actual release papers, so other promotions would think that Brian was really a loose cannon not controlled by WCW another great move in WCW personnel relations
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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:Pillman was already gone from WCW by the time of the doomsday cage match iirc They were still paying him to work in ECW and his goal was to renegotiate with WCW and get a big deal. He had minor throat surgery to avoid doing Uncensored.
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LividLiquid posted:What is this good story Vince Russo wrote? "Bray Wyatt is in the ring. Lights go out. Lights come back on. Bray Wyatt is still in the ring."
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DeathChicken posted:"Bray Wyatt is in the ring. Lights go out. Lights come back on. Bray Wyatt is still in the ring." Couldn't even get through booking a show without getting bored.
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I like the original Kane/Undertaker storyline, from Taker’s championship win to the blackmail to Hell in a Cell to the Wrestlemania match Which Kane should have won
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:
Agreed. It wouldn't have hurt 'Taker at all.
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Cornette and others were on the booking team for poo poo like the first Taker/Kane feud. When Russo gained power the tv rapidly became total garbage.
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Yeah Cornette is a pretty competent booker because he at least understands "wrestler A is pissed at wrestler B" is going to be a better storyline than whatever modern wrestling over-contrived dawson's creek thing that I see Twitter screaming "WHAT THE gently caress IS THIS DUMB poo poo" about once a week
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Did Kane ever win over Taker other than the buried alive match where he needed the Dudleys to help him? And then that led to the Wrestlemania XX match where Taker beat him again anyway.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Did Kane ever win over Taker other than the buried alive match where he needed the Dudleys to help him? And then that led to the Wrestlemania XX match where Taker beat him again anyway. Kane also buried Taker alive thanks to the Nexus I think, and he beat Taker via Paul Bearer heel turn in a hell in a cell match.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Also anybody that's really over at the time. Hogan tried like hell to get Pillman into that loving terrible Doomsday Cage Match at Uncensored '96 because everyone was talking about the Loose Cannon and Hogan wanted to kill his heat. So Pillman scheduled a surgery so even Hogan's creative control couldn't force him into that debacle. that's why he constantly hosed with sting and sometimes ddp too Pillman was like the only dude more adept at backstage-fu than hogan but he didn't really use it to gently caress people over like hogan or hhh do, if he didn't die it would've been interesting to see where he went e: though he just hit the age where his injuries started piling up so he was probably at the end of his career regardless, but still Yinlock fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Oct 25, 2019 |
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LividLiquid posted:That stream was really enlightening, because you could see Russo have a good idea, think it was great, then get bored with it and change it not ten minutes later. Was that the stream where Bray Wyatt hit a Sister Abigail on a chicken neck? Because if so then Russo has certifiably had at least two good ideas
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LividLiquid posted:That stream was really enlightening, because you could see Russo have a good idea, think it was great, then get bored with it and change it not ten minutes later. that explains why every match he booked ended with a run-in "bored now, [wrestler] runs in and beats everyone up match over"
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Did Kane ever win over Taker other than the buried alive match where he needed the Dudleys to help him? And then that led to the Wrestlemania XX match where Taker beat him again anyway. Kane beat him clean once during their feud during 2010 E: the first in the series that ended with the buried alive match oldpainless fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Oct 25, 2019 |
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