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Extra Large Marge posted:When people disconnect right when I'm about to win I send them a message that just says "rude". I send them my YouTube playlist of all my rage quitters in every fighting game with them added at the end. I mean how bad do you have to be to quit on a ultra silver/gold Vega player?
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i find in xrd people mostly self flagellate or scurry away from lobby instead of sending hatemail. unless its hamad i guess. once i played a jam who was having a hard time opening me up so i just sat there and blocked their offense for 20~30 seconds until they eventually did a throw. i congratulated them for getting the throw and they told me they wanted to kill themselves. i tried to defuse the situation but i'm assuming they had some other stuff going on which i had nothing to do with
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Spuckuk posted:Local scenes definitely exist, I run one! We built it from scratch over the last few years and ran our first 150+ person tournament in September. Hrmm my original hometown had a ton of Street Fighter players but nowadays I live abroad in a place where fighting games aren't so popular but I'll give it a shot.
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I wish I could find some local stuff for Tekken in New Orleans. Mostly SF & MK here from what I've seen. Last Tekken thing was back in April or something.
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Oct 23, 2019 20:22
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Bring a setup of the game you want to play to your local, and you should be able to get some games in
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Oct 23, 2019 20:25
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HerniaFlange posted:I wonder if fighting games will become like prestige movies for big film studios, some small division that they label as "indie" to put out Oscar bait. "This is what the real hardcore play, it's not for everyone but that's part of why it's great!" Every big dumb game studio run by abusive, racist, sexist, LGBTQIA-phobic scumbags will throw together a small studio of devs that worked on a game with a good Metacritic rating, except they have no idea what makes a good fighting game good (and the fact that even then it's usually a result of either lightning in a bottle, 3+ revisions, or being Tekken which really doesn't change too much between games anyways) and introduce some really poorly thought out "accessibility" mechanics, alongside mountains of microtransactions that make ASW's $8 a character shenanigans or Netherrealm's "preorder to actually get all the characters on the disc" look quaint. The game will bomb, and they decide it's just easier to pick up a studio making a game that shows promise and murdering the poo poo out the studio after. What if Riot gave several hundred million dollars to Josh "Rancid PsychoJosh" Psychojosh to finally finish GigaMaidens and it turns out to be the ultimate footsie and messy guessies fighter.
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Oct 23, 2019 21:07
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mysterious loyall X posted:What if Riot gave several hundred million dollars to Josh "Rancid PsychoJosh" Psychojosh to finally finish GigaMaidens and it turns out to be the ultimate footsie and messy guessies fighter.
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dhamster posted:i find in xrd people mostly self flagellate or scurry away from lobby instead of sending hatemail. unless its hamad i guess. cmon man, don't pick on teresa
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Oct 23, 2019 23:40
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Endorph posted:gigamaidens would probably have better character designs
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Oct 23, 2019 23:42
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mysterious loyall X posted:GigaMaidens mysterious loyall X posted:footsies 
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If they're giga enough we would be exploring the new realm of footsies on a spherical surface.
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So I have been a casual fight game player for a few years now but I've never gotten past the "good enough to beat non fight game players but not good enough to consistently win matches against people who actually practice" level. I have been loving around with Tekken the past couple of days and playing super low level ranked matches. My problem is that I get so focused on playing that after three or four matches I am sweating my rear end off and feel like I need to take a break for a few. I watch streamers and they seem like they can play for hours at a time. Is this just something that gets easier with more matches under my belt?
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:So I have been a casual fight game player for a few years now but I've never gotten past the "good enough to beat non fight game players but not good enough to consistently win matches against people who actually practice" level. I have been loving around with Tekken the past couple of days and playing super low level ranked matches. Hello and welcome to 80% of normie FG players. Play video games and have fun.
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Oct 24, 2019 03:49
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yeah ive had similar experience vs my friends sets just end because theyre exhausted
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:So I have been a casual fight game player for a few years now but I've never gotten past the "good enough to beat non fight game players but not good enough to consistently win matches against people who actually practice" level. I have been loving around with Tekken the past couple of days and playing super low level ranked matches. really just play more. at your level i would play to learn and not get emotionally invested in the outcome of the match. instead work on doing some damage with your most basic combos, moving around in 3d, poking, blocking correctly, and/or punishing. if you set out to do one or more of these things during a round and accomplish them, that's a win. focusing on just a few aspects of gameplay at a time might also help keep you from getting mentally overloaded. right now you might be trying to do everything all at once and getting overwhelmed. focusing on individual aspects of gameplay commits those things to muscle memory, and then you can focus on other stuff, like adapting to what the other guy is doing and beating that.
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Oct 24, 2019 04:03
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ive been playing fighting games competitively for almost 7 years, made it out of pools several times, won a ton of locals, and getting to top 3 of a pool or local bracket is still completely exhausting, but I could play casuals 24/7. it all comes down to mindset. if you're trying to get better you should be more in the headspace of trying stuff in a match to get it down or explore uses for a specific move etc. it's less stressful, more fun, and makes for faster progress.
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:So I have been a casual fight game player for a few years now but I've never gotten past the "good enough to beat non fight game players but not good enough to consistently win matches against people who actually practice" level. I have been loving around with Tekken the past couple of days and playing super low level ranked matches. I always suggest finding a few friends or like minded individuals to start out with, and just play for fun and learn as you go. You'd be amazed how much knowledge and experience you can absorb over time without the kind of pressure people put themselves in just by fighting randoms. Like, take two people with the exact same skill level; for me personally, I could probably go FT20s if I was playing with a friend where I know there's no real pressure by the friend or by my own doing. If I was playing with some random? Nah, I'd be done after 3 at best. You see streamers playing for hours on end because they just love fighters and not much else or it's part of their literal livelihood; sometimes both. MechaX fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Oct 24, 2019 04:33
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:So I have been a casual fight game player for a few years now but I've never gotten past the "good enough to beat non fight game players but not good enough to consistently win matches against people who actually practice" level. I have been loving around with Tekken the past couple of days and playing super low level ranked matches. Try player matches instead of ranked. I find them to be pretty laid back. You can end up against much better players, which is paradoxically kind of relaxing because there is no real expectation of winning. You can just focus on improvement and small, occasional victories, and just appreciate the game for what it is.
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mysterious loyall X posted:What if Riot gave several hundred million dollars to Josh "Rancid PsychoJosh" Psychojosh to finally finish GigaMaidens and it turns out to be the ultimate footsie and messy guessies fighter. I am already funding Gigamaidens, for the same reason an oil company would buy the patents to a cheap clean and bountiful new energy source.
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:So I have been a casual fight game player for a few years now but I've never gotten past the "good enough to beat non fight game players but not good enough to consistently win matches against people who actually practice" level. I have been loving around with Tekken the past couple of days and playing super low level ranked matches. hello, on top of all the advice given, try to watch more. when you watch, you have more time to analyse and internalise what is going on, and if something is impressive or seems impossible, you can always rewind and slow mo if need be get used to casually watching what's happening on screen don't get me wrong, that focus is really good for playing, especially close matches, but it's hard to keep it up - i am suggesting you watch more to get used to the game while staying at a lower level of investment, so to speak phone posting over family lunch, so if what i said is unhelpful, please let me know and i will clarify when i am at a comp
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Is there a decent "What should I be thinking about" during a match thing? I find myself frustrated because X or Y doesn't work and then I end up just spamming that, instead of actually watching footsies and trying to confirm hits.
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if you start spamming you're done. just keep that mindset. take a sec dash or jump back and reevaluate position and what they are trying to open you up with react in the way you think is best to counter that. they jump in? anti air them and let em know thats going to keep happening. spamming projectiles? get in and tell them to stop etc etc just focus on openers. once you start to identify that then worry about footsies. learn to use the moves you're trying to spam as punishments rather than openers, then go back to learning them as an opener. as long as you learn something you're better than you were for not playing, no matter if you win or lose.
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Oct 24, 2019 16:27
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SoftNum posted:Is there a decent "What should I be thinking about" during a match thing? I find myself frustrated because X or Y doesn't work and then I end up just spamming that, instead of actually watching footsies and trying to confirm hits. Block more
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In Training posted:Block more that too
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SoftNum posted:Is there a decent "What should I be thinking about" during a match thing? I find myself frustrated because X or Y doesn't work and then I end up just spamming that, instead of actually watching footsies and trying to confirm hits. It helps to have a general gameplan for neutral. What are your strongest tools? If you know the matchup, what are their strongest tools? Based on this you might be jockeying for position to where your Good poo poo has advantage over theirs. Maybe your #1 good button is faster than theirs and you can get in their face, or longer than theirs and you can keep them out. If it seems like you keep jumping the gun and getting whiff punished when you make a move, learn some lower commitment options (the lowest of which being movement, or even doing nothing). If you succeed in hitting them, you can shift your focus on how will you press the advantage. This is where combos, corner carry, Oki come into play. If you're the one being pressured, your goal is to get out so you can go back to neutral. Patience can be your friend there. To use a real example, when I was learning Ky I would get frustrated because I would try to establish fS (long grounded stab) as a poke, which would get jumped over or counterpoked. My go-to anti air was 2h (big upward swing), but I would whiff it a lot, or get stuffed during it's long-ish startup. What I realized was people would often jump when I walked or ran into fS range, or hard commit to a risky counterpoke or low profile move. So I started sometimes walking/running up into fS range and doing nothing, or fd cancelling my dash, then just looking to react to what happens next. Sure enough I would watch them whiff their counterpoke on reaction to my dash, or jump (giving me plenty of time to line up a clean anti air with 2h or 6p). Doing this successfully lets me actually run up and fS them more often, since it makes them pay for trying to roll the dice and jump over/slide under it.
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SoftNum posted:Is there a decent "What should I be thinking about" during a match thing? I find myself frustrated because X or Y doesn't work and then I end up just spamming that, instead of actually watching footsies and trying to confirm hits. footsies is kind of a misleading term because you watch a video of two genius level players and they are cautiously wobbling around and respecting each others' ranges, but that's not going to happen the same way in your average tournament or online match. "neutral" in this case is a much better word and you can think of footsies as a way to accomplish neutral. for example, if urien is just going wild with headbutts and shoulders, if sol is just constantly doing iad and/or fafnir, if dragunov is just constantly throwing out wr2, if Charlotte won't stop jumping at you, and you're trying to bait out a whiff punish, you're waiting for something that will never happen. they're going to run you over because you're spending a ton of mental RAM on something that doesn't help you win--RAM that could be better spent elsewhere. but you know that, thats why you asked the question. and it's a great question btw. Most matches you play in your lifetime will not begin with respect already established, so you're going to have to show your opponent that they can't rely on strategies that are mentally easy for them. and that's what it comes down to. why would I not blanka ball over and over again if you don't know how to beat it? I get the satisfaction of winning without having to work for it. people are always going to take the path of least resistance in a match if you let them. you've seen this in action if you've ever heard anyone vocalize "oh, this guy can't tech throws" or something similar. so instead of focusing on specific neutral tools like whiff punishment, you can use prior experience, matchup knowledge, and the beginning of a match to figure out how your opponent is going to play. these early options they choose are usually going to br their go-to "mentally easy" strategies, aka their autopilot. some people will wiggle back and forth like they're trying to play REAL HONEST FOOTSIES but unless they're actually really good, you can wait this out. they're eventually going to get tired of pretending, or realize it doesn't work, or get frustrated, and revert to their real strategy. in 2d games, there are 2 major ways for an opponent to hit you: horizontally, or from the air. that's it. you can generally expect your opponent's approach to come from 1 of those 2 directions. shutting down their approach from the air is usually accomplished by anti-airing or air-to-airing. if you can shut down their air game, that leaves us with the ground game, but that doesn't mean your opponent is going to say "ok ok you got me, it's time to play footsies now". they probably have a ground gimmick or two. this is very game and character dependent, but big slow normals, dashing, etc go here. since they couldn't get in from the air, they are now going to try getting in on the ground. the ground is more dependent on gams and matchup intricacies than the air game, but it can still be simplified somewhat. the best case scenario is that you can damage your opponent for trying to get in on you horizontally. for example, if your opponent is dashing in constantly you might try to swat him away by whiffing light attacks here and there to check an unexpected dash. this is the same thing as anti-airing. you are anti-grounding him, but it's a similar concept. when you have convinced your opponent, by checking his harebrained attempts to get in on you, that there is not an easy path ro beating your rear end, then the real game can begin and you can play honest neutral until he gets frustrated and starts taking risks, at which point the same guiding principles can put you back in control. basically, "what you should be looking for" is your opponent's gameplan in the broadest strokes you can get away with. my last tip is just to remember fighting games have a ton of information on screen at once, and some of it is not obvious. in order for your opponent to accomplish anything, though, he has to reveal his plan to you to a certain extent. if an opponent wants to command grab you, first he has to get close to you. that forward movement, whether it's walking, dashing, or jumping, will usually indicate aggression. similarly, nobody is going to try to zone you out by getting up in your face. stationary movement usually indicates defensiveness, and backwards movement usually indicates evasiveness. use the clues your opponent is giving you to make educated predictions about his strategy and his next move, and try to hide the clues you're giving to your opponent as much as possible. anyway this has gone on way too long so i hope that helps and if not at least everyone can get some laughs out of calling me an idiot.
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SoftNum posted:Is there a decent "What should I be thinking about" during a match thing? I find myself frustrated because X or Y doesn't work and then I end up just spamming that, instead of actually watching footsies and trying to confirm hits. This fucker keeps hitting me with his poo poo, now I'm gonna hit him with my poo poo!
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exquisite tea posted:This fucker keeps hitting me with his poo poo, now I'm gonna hit him with my poo poo!
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SoftNum posted:Is there a decent "What should I be thinking about" during a match thing? I find myself frustrated because X or Y doesn't work and then I end up just spamming that, instead of actually watching footsies and trying to confirm hits. Depending on the game/matchup, you can get a lot of mileage out of just blocking and being super patient for your opponent to fall into a pattern or do something super unsafe. This doesn't work against people who know what they're doing with a super offensive character/game, but will help a lot in just slowing down what to think about and focusing on one thing. From there, you move onto what pokes or counterattacks you're using to punish the mistake with and then what combos to do afterwards. Alternatively, you can play a dumb character where their mix up isn't mixing up approaches but is simply "I bet you didn't expect me to do 236A a FIFTH time!" https://youtu.be/lwLT8DsU5mE
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I generally fall into a pattern of getting fixated on landing some particular thing, which isn't really a game plan, or just trying to react to what they're doing, which between latency, flat guess mixups, and my old man reactions doesn't work too well. Running a consistent plan is definitely something I need to work on.
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OHHHH BOY WE GOT A GOOD NEW SAMSHO LEAK And if nesica has promo material going in for him already along with him looking render complete as he does, the chances are pretty high he's coming in this year, the real dream will be if he drops with Kazuki next month.
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Since every game is now a crossover, they should add the cast of Kimetsu no Yaiba to SamSho
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When is goku with power pole coming to samsho?
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chumbler posted:I generally fall into a pattern of getting fixated on landing some particular thing, which isn't really a game plan, or just trying to react to what they're doing, which between latency, flat guess mixups, and my old man reactions doesn't work too well. Running a consistent plan is definitely something I need to work on. I suck at reacting most of the time and like to drink while I play which probably doesn't help at all so instead of reacting I just make educated guesses about what I think they might do and it usually works out. I'll gently caress up teching gold throws in unist but I'll be damned if I'm gonna get hit by some incredibly telegraphed overhead again. It also helps me open people up myself, trying to think of ways to get in that they aren't looking for. Alternatively, you don't have to block their mix if you never give them a turn in the first place
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Spanish Manlove posted:When is goku with power pole coming to samsho? It's only fair that Yajirobe gets added instead
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Put Sekiro in SamSho
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Yardbomb posted:OHHHH BOY WE GOT A GOOD NEW SAMSHO LEAK I really want to pick up samsho but I am worried that the player base is even smaller than UNIST and I will never be able to find people to play online with.
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:I really want to pick up samsho but I am worried that the player base is even smaller than UNIST and I will never be able to find people to play online with. it's fine
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Xad posted:Since every game is now a crossover, they should add the cast of Kimetsu no Yaiba to SamSho Just squint at Shizumaru or Nekoruru and you're like 70% of the way there
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