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Mulaney Power Move posted:ok maybe i should calm down. i would watch more orange cassidy matches but i still need to go through every checkmate match from wccw. my time is very valuable. this gimmick sucks rear end dude
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Nov 4, 2019 00:19
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i think i have seen every checkmate match though
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Nov 4, 2019 00:34
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I have a bit of a soft spot for Cornette in spite of his lovely opinions about wrestling because as a kid in the 90s he hit almost every "heat seeking" note that you could to make a 7-10 year old child hate you. The grating voice, cowardice and generally punchable face were the perfect heel combination. It is pretty hard to reconcile how he can be upset about Kenny Omega gesticulating and dressing up like video game characters when he had fake asian Yoshi Kwan and a Ninja Turtle wrestling in SMW. I didnt watch a ton of SMW stuff but I imagine these were not isolated incidents. I believe at one point Balls Mahoney portrayed a retarded man who had a pet cat get murdered as part of an angle. What are some other examples of Cornette embracing fantasy wrestling when it suits him and making GBS threads on it when it doesnt?
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Nov 4, 2019 00:36
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BhindiBhaji Boogie posted:What are some other examples of Cornette embracing fantasy wrestling when it suits him and making GBS threads on it when it doesnt? One that springs to mind is his insistence that promoters/companies shouldn't let their financial backers force them to violate their product's credibility. Except for him when Rick Rubin demanded to see a mummy in SMW, that was totally different and not at all comparable to Best Friends dressing like Rick and Morty for five minutes to placate TNT.
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BhindiBhaji Boogie posted:I have a bit of a soft spot for Cornette in spite of his lovely opinions about wrestling because as a kid in the 90s he hit almost every "heat seeking" note that you could to make a 7-10 year old child hate you. The grating voice, cowardice and generally punchable face were the perfect heel combination. hard to tell how much of that was him playing it up and how much was him just being himself
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Mulaney Power Move posted:i think i have seen every checkmate match though 
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so what if i like wccw more than aew (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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BhindiBhaji Boogie posted:I have a bit of a soft spot for Cornette in spite of his lovely opinions about wrestling because as a kid in the 90s he hit almost every "heat seeking" note that you could to make a 7-10 year old child hate you. The grating voice, cowardice and generally punchable face were the perfect heel combination. It is pretty hard to reconcile how he can be upset about Kenny Omega gesticulating and dressing up like video game characters when he had fake asian Yoshi Kwan and a Ninja Turtle wrestling in SMW. I didnt watch a ton of SMW stuff but I imagine these were not isolated incidents. I believe at one point Balls Mahoney portrayed a retarded man who had a pet cat get murdered as part of an angle. What are some other examples of Cornette embracing fantasy wrestling when it suits him and making GBS threads on it when it doesnt? I mean the thing is. It’s ok to like the creative output he had and connected with you. I love all his old heel work. He had a fully formed fully realized gimmick and was a lot of fun to watch. That doesn’t mean he’s not a piece of poo poo. And current day Cornette is truly a shell of what he used to be. He needs to retire fully but there are too many people who are willing to buy his grift.
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Just out of curiosity because I've never thought to ask.... just what the hell classifies something as "an outlaw mud show"? It's professional wrestling so what was "outlaw"? I'm assuming it was somebody who put on a show without clearance from a sports commission back in the days when that was actually needed? Or was it just a term for anybody who wasn't running an NWA affiliate that somehow gained traction?
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Jerusalem posted:Just out of curiosity because I've never thought to ask.... just what the hell classifies something as "an outlaw mud show"? cornette not liking it, or a portion of it, or being mad about a wrestler on it
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Jerusalem posted:Just out of curiosity because I've never thought to ask.... just what the hell classifies something as "an outlaw mud show"? It's professional wrestling so what was "outlaw"? I'm assuming it was somebody who put on a show without clearance from a sports commission back in the days when that was actually needed? Or was it just a term for anybody who wasn't running an NWA affiliate that somehow gained traction? Outlaw shows were shows in NWA territories not run by the local NWA affiliates, yeah. The Poffo’s ICW was a prominent outlaw show, for example
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Jerusalem posted:Just out of curiosity because I've never thought to ask.... just what the hell classifies something as "an outlaw mud show"? Or was it just a term for anybody who wasn't running an NWA affiliate that somehow gained traction? This, basically. It was someone who wasn't an affiliate of a promotion (NWA, AWA, etc) running a show in another promotion's agreed upon home territory. "Mud Show" derives from those shows unable to book an actual "arena" due to promoters having a stranglehold on those, so often they'd run out of barns or other places.
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Being an outlaw mud show sounds so loving cool. Being an outlaw is cool as hell.
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i wish cornette had succeeded in running over that outlaw promoter and killing him, so that he would be in prison or dead, currently. You have my permission to punish me for the post
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The_Rob posted:Being an outlaw mud show sounds so loving cool. Being an outlaw is cool as hell. Smokey and the Bandit V: Banditmania Davros1 posted:This, basically. It was someone who wasn't an affiliate of a promotion (NWA, AWA, etc) running a show in another promotion's agreed upon home territory. "Mud Show" derives from those shows unable to book an actual "arena" due to promoters having a stranglehold on those, so often they'd run out of barns or other places. As much as I enjoy Powerrr, it is kind of hilarious that the NWA ended up being the "outlaw mud show" and that Cornette is now working for one.
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So it basically means 'could draw money and compete with the establishment'?
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The_Rob posted:Being an outlaw mud show sounds so loving cool. Being an outlaw is cool as hell. There is a reason GCW takes that label to heart.
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"outlaw mud show" is a pretty good band name
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I love that Cornette is living his nightmare and doesn't even realize it. He works for a company that makes no money, tapes in a sparsely-attended TV studio in front of 14 people, and whose biggest stars are Magnus and James Storm. He works for TNA.
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flashy_mcflash posted:I love that Cornette is living his nightmare and doesn't even realize it. He works for a company that makes no money, tapes in a sparsely-attended TV studio in front of 14 people, and whose biggest stars are Magnus and James Storm. He works for TNA. Someone hook Billy and Vince Russo up. Cornette would have an aneurysm.
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Nov 4, 2019 03:39
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Gaz-L posted:Someone hook Billy and Vince Russo up. Cornette would have an aneurysm. Billy's done the Alex Jones Show, it's hard for me to think he wouldn't love Russo.
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Nov 4, 2019 03:41
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one thing i remember about listening to jim cornette podcasts is how he would just drone on and on about louisville morning radio hosts and news anchors he had fond memories of. just the worst boomer poo poo imaginable. who could care
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Nov 4, 2019 06:05
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https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1191243675440803841
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Nov 4, 2019 07:48
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i appreciate the existence of this thread because it reminds me to catch this week's Jim
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Nov 4, 2019 12:50
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Jim Cornette had El Generico and Kevin Steen and he took them off TV and pushed Davey Richards instead. When called out on this just a few months ago, he tweeted this: https://twitter.com/TheJimCornette/status/1160886814699393024 Cornette has no clue how to judge talent.
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Nov 4, 2019 17:24
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Jay Lethal fuckin sucks. You strip away the funny imitations, there's nothing there. Davey was good at one point but started to learn too heavily into do a bunch of moves with no real connection between them or consequences. Then his brain mushed. ELG and Steen are still going hard. Or so I'm told. I don't watch bad TV.
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I will never forget the seemingly endless Davey Richards/Roderick Strong/Eddie Edwards main events ROH had during Cornette’s tenure. Just 3 dudes.
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Nov 4, 2019 17:33
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they've done this though. it's a whole episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOZZF5XlWQU
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Nov 4, 2019 18:07
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plz stop
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Nov 4, 2019 18:17
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WatermelonGun posted:plz stop I'm having a tough day at work, I saw a cool new emote, I decided to enjoy myself and gosh darn it no one can stop me. Unless I get hit with a 6er that would stop me I guess. But until then, I'm going to enjoy myself. Love ya.
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coconono posted:Jay Lethal fuckin sucks. You strip away the funny imitations, there's nothing there. Generico is a manager now.
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Ad by Khad posted:i appreciate the existence of this thread because it reminds me to catch this week's Jim Gotta listen to him DESTROY those SJWs with FACTS and LOGIC
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Nov 4, 2019 22:39
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My favorite thing Cornette ever did was take a big ol poo poo on Hogan and Piper's Starrcade match. https://youtu.be/ByYTyiSw1ts
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I’ve been a Cornette fan since I first saw him on Crockett TV in the 80s. He’s an interesting personality, but IMO he’s also a guy with a lot of personal issues. He makes wild statements that sometimes get taken out of context, often poorly timed and worded. He’s also done a lot of things that weaken his position on promotion style. Still, when he talks about the ins and outs of pro wrestling, he’s coming from years of experience. I tend to agree with a lot of what he says. When he goes off on rants about modern wrestling, I get the feeling it’s 50/50 legit feelings /exaggerated rage to get clicks. Social media seems to be the last vestige of some semblance of kayfabe. IMO Jim is one of the all time best workers. Due to his statements about current wrestling, he occupies rent free space in a lot of minds. Wrestling has always evolved. When I first started watching, it was about slowly built cards ending in main events with 60 minute draws. Matches that consisted of working holds and the occasional high spot. During the peak of my personal fandom it was more about personalities, psychology, heat, wild angles and more ring action. These days it’s more about hot moves, incredible athleticism and intense fandom for performers/promotions. I don’t follow it as much as I used to but I don’t begrudge folks their excitement. Jim comes off as an out of touch curmudgeon due to his presentation style, but there’s a lot of legit good advice in what he says. He just enflames folks so much due to his personality, he gets written off as “old guy shakes fist at cloud”.
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You can't "work" being a bigoted piece of poo poo even if you don't believe what you are saying. I look forward to him living rent free in a retirement home after they've bled all his money and assets, folks.
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Cavauro posted:You can't "work" being a bigoted piece of poo poo even if you don't believe what you are saying. I look forward to him living rent free in a retirement home after they've bled all his money and assets, folks. Given the current state of our culture, that’s debatable. I also stated he has personal issues. I disagree with a lot of his stands on issues *outside* of wrestling. I also agree with a lot of his thoughts on wrestling. You have the right to your personal opinion re his ultimate fate.
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i find it ironic that someone like Orange Cassidy never breaks kayfabe and is probably the modern equivalent of the kind of wrestler who takes their craft seriously that Jim Cornette likes. it's even funnier that the crowd completely goes along with it and are absolutely into Orange Cassidy on a level few others wrestlers get, but Cornette can't see that at all. not only that, but he's getting crossover attention for his work too. funny how Cornette can't see that it's the exact thing he should be loving but can't just because it's modern and has comedy in it
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