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Takoluka posted:Or you could *not* do this and actually show Game Freak that you won't put up with an inferior product. lmao if you think this would do anything
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Bleck posted:I don't know enough about game development to know whether or not it's a reasonable thing for them to be dropping half the dex, but at the very least it stands to give competitive battling a big breath of fresh air I know a bit about game development and their original announcement smelled disingenuous even before people caught them reusing the models they claimed would be so much work to recreate. And Pokemon Showdown came up with a pretty good solution for competitive -- cap different mons' max levels differently for competitive fights so that their total stats are comparable. It's not a complete solution but it enables a lot o' jank. ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I'm not the best with words, so some of my stuff comes across as rambling but it's honestly me just trying to explain what's going on. That's literally my only goal. I've enjoyed the effortposts, and not just because they confirmed what I already believed. Goons do tend to pile on when someone displays emotional attachment to something, especially an ideal. Shrug it off and keep moving forward. (Much like I intend to do with the new Pokemon game.)
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They never said they recreated the models. That too was a mistranslation.Neddy Seagoon posted:I'm enjoying Luigi's Mansion 3 and I love how even Luigi feels a little bad about capturing Morty the Director with only a half-hearted "yeah, woo-hoo" after Morty's sucked into the Poltergust G-00. The guy just wanted to spend his afterlife making films Please tell me you at least let him finish making his film. 10F was really cool, and the boss fight was a great way to cap it off. Probably my favorite floor so far.
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I still need to finish my copies of X and Ultra Sun so I’m sure the better versions of Sun/Moon with all the Pokémon will be out by then.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I think people are having a hard time sympathizing because it's unusual for a franchise to have that kind of backward compatibility through multiple games, especially across multiple consoles. It's not really a normal game feature. I don’t play Pokémon and even I realize how important it’s been for people to carry their fellas forward
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I’m still not a fan of the ghost-catching in LM3 btw It’s not even that it’s too easy, it’s that the audio feedback feels really weak and it doesn’t feel very dynamic or exciting compared to the first game where ghosts would be pulling you all around the room as they tried to escape from you.
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Augus posted:I’m still not a fan of the ghost-catching in LM3 btw I do remember ghosts being way harder to catch on 3ds. I also burned out on that game and never finished it..
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Nov 6, 2019 06:45
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bowmore posted:well it's ok because Haunter looks cooler 
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Yeah, the mook combat is really weak. It basically loses out on the whole fishing game aspect the first two games had which was a lot more engaging. Also kind of doesn't really help that most of the time the ghosts just kinda hang back and watch you vacuum in the one you're latched to and don't really try to get jabs in as often as the ghosts did in the first two games. Boo combat is at least the best it's been in the series, and the bosses have been really good.
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Araxxor posted:Yeah, the mook combat is really weak. It basically loses out on the whole fishing game aspect the first two games had which was a lot more engaging. Also kind of doesn't really help that most of the time the ghosts just kinda hang back and watch you vacuum in the one you're latched to and don't really try to get jabs in as often as the ghosts did in the first two games. Some of the optional fights in LM3 are absolute bastards though. If you leave the fourth floor and come back to the boss fight room it's flooded with a ton of different ghosts that do NOT hang back at all and due to how they attack on that floor they are extremely dangerous. It was the first time I came close to dying because it was just so hard to get space to start tugging on a ghost. Then other times it'll just lock you in a room with a single purple ghosts, and all they do is harass you
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Some of the optional fights in LM3 are absolute bastards though. If you leave the fourth floor and come back to the boss fight room it's flooded with a ton of different ghosts that do NOT hang back at all and due to how they attack on that floor they are extremely dangerous. It was the first time I came close to dying because it was just so hard to get space to start tugging on a ghost. While I was searching for the 2F gems, I ran into a 6 Hammer encounter in the ballroom.  That one was such a huge step above what the story was tossing at me at the time, so it really threw me for a loop. I barely had any time to get any attacks in.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:Some of the optional fights in LM3 are absolute bastards though. If you leave the fourth floor and come back to the boss fight room it's flooded with a ton of different ghosts that do NOT hang back at all and due to how they attack on that floor they are extremely dangerous. It was the first time I came close to dying because it was just so hard to get space to start tugging on a ghost.
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Araxxor posted:Please tell me you at least let him finish making his film. You can do that?... Oops... 
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lezard_valeth posted:Ok, question regarding Digimon Cyber Sleuth Nope, the game is exactly like that from start to finish, its a very text and story heavy Digimon game.
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Araxxor posted:They never said they recreated the models. That too was a mistranslation. gently caress him, he forced me against my will to fight other ghosts for his poo poo flick. He's getting trapped in a glass jar for eternity. 14F was my favourite, looks so vibrant
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Bleck posted:I don't know enough about game development to know whether or not it's a reasonable thing for them to be dropping half the dex, but at the very least it stands to give competitive battling a big breath of fresh air Dexit is a bummer, but this is how I'm looking at it.
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Takoluka posted:Or you could *not* do this and actually show Game Freak that you won't put up with an inferior product. 
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sword/shield will get boycotted, go down in history as being one of the worst games of all time for only having 9 pokemon in it, sell less than a thousand copies, and then game freak will have to make drill dozer 2 instead hd rumble drill dozer, folks
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I guess what I don’t understand is people being this mad at GameFreak and this certain that they are lying to you for (laziness?) reasons and still buying the game. Not out of some principled moral objection or a boycott that will change the world but because it sounds like you don’t like their products anymore. Games are meant to bring joy. Or at least pleasure.
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doingitwrong posted:I guess what I don’t understand is people being this mad at GameFreak and this certain that they are lying to you for (laziness?) reasons and still buying the game. Not out of some principled moral objection or a boycott that will change the world but because it sounds like you don’t like their products anymore. Games are meant to bring joy. Or at least pleasure. There's a long way to go from "I don't like this change and it's very bad for the game" to "there is nothing of value for me in this game"
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I think probably what is happening is game freak have made a calculated business decision that the vast majority of their sales will go towards a fresh crop of kids getting the new pokeymans for Christmas potentially on a new switch lite, so more money all round Most of the people rightly or wrongly complaining about not being able to import pokemon from 7 generations back are the jorts wearing 30+ adults who will bitch and moan a lot on the internet but ultimately make up a small fraction of the total customer base and will most likely buy them anyway because they have more disposable income and also hate themselves
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Pokemon fans are almost as bad as smash bros fans
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MUSCULAR BEAVER posted:Pokemon fans are almost as bad as smash bros fans Well, mostly the ones who play competitively (and the hanger-ons.)
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MUSCULAR BEAVER posted:Pokemon fans are almost as bad as smash bros fans It's not fair comparing children to adults.
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handwringing about fanbases is lame as hell
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Andrast posted:There's a long way to go from "I don't like this change and it's very bad for the game" to "there is nothing of value for me in this game" Yeah, it's this. Losing 500 of the things sucks and makes me feel like I wasted my time trying to put a living dex together over the years without cheating so it's just "man this really sucks". I still want to see the new things and play the new game, it's just a problem that's going to stand out and the weak reasoning given just doesn't really satisfy. It sucks hearing that this is going to be the future of pokemon and that's about it. 
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On the other hand, you made it sound like game freak was coming into your house and stealing your old pokemon from their cartridges then deleting them. The way you represented the pokemon bank thing was wilfully disingenuous, just don't sign up to the thing if you don't want to pay for nebulous future promises of worth. If you want to play with your old pokemon you have generations of games to do that with. There's what, nearly 1,000 different pokemon at this point? You had to realise at some point they needed to make a cut-off. If I were a pokemon fan I'd be more bothered about the fact that any changes to the formula have been extremely conservative and iterative at best, with the basic gameplay remaining fundamentally unchanged for decades, but then I guess that's why I'm not a pokemon fan. It trades on nostalgia and a lot of that nostalgia is tying the older fans to the original generations. Would there perhaps be less griping if the new games looked and felt like a totally fresh experience?
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Personally, I'm looking forward to finding out what Sword and Shield is like when it leaves Early Access.
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Andrast posted:handwringing about fanbases is lame as hell Beer snobs vs. Anime fans
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Butterfly Valley posted:On the other hand, you made it sound like game freak was coming into your house and stealing your old pokemon from their cartridges then deleting them. The way you represented the pokemon bank thing was wilfully disingenuous, just don't sign up to the thing if you don't want to pay for nebulous future promises of worth. If you want to play with your old pokemon you have generations of games to do that with. There's what, nearly 1,000 different pokemon at this point? You had to realise at some point they needed to make a cut-off. I mean yeah, there's a lot of problems about battle frontiers and the like constantly getting cut. Nobody is really silent on those- it just never gets anywhere because "haha gamefreak takes 1 step forward and then cuts enough features to be 2 steps back, those wacky devs" And I mean, I really wasn't. In my case I played Moon, and I played Ultra Moon. I have shiny pokemon from Gen 7 that I was saving to transfer to Gen 8. Now that they aren't in 8 my only option is to delete my save and just keep replaying the same game over and over again. I don't want to do that because as a lot of people will tell you, Gen 7 kinda sucks to play through with most of the game being a giant tutorial. Hearing that Sword/Shield is lacking a tutorial, and is possibly more replay friendly I'm pretty excited. It just sucks that I won't be able to take advantage of bringing over the mons I cared to get for it. It's not really that big of a wrap around to say it's a bummer.
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Unless Pokemon takes a similar leap forward like BOTW did to Zelda, I’m not that interested.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:It's not really that big of a wrap around to say it's a bummer.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I mean yeah, there's a lot of problems about battle frontiers and the like constantly getting cut. Nobody is really silent on those- it just never gets anywhere because "haha gamefreak takes 1 step forward and then cuts enough features to be 2 steps back, those wacky devs" It's the first game on a new platform for them, and it's a real big shift from handhelds to home consoles with what's expected of a title. They also quite likely have to do a lot of work from scratch. Culling the number of Pokemon in the game makes a lot of developmental headaches go away, because the stuff they get working in Sword/Shield only has to be done once. Subsequent titles can build off that to reuse engine code and assets, and give time to sticking in more of your favourite Pokemon.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's the first game on a new platform for them, and it's a real big shift from handhelds to home consoles with what's expected of a title. They also quite likely have to do a lot of work from scratch. Culling the number of Pokemon in the game makes a lot of developmental headaches go away, because the stuff they get working in Sword/Shield only has to be done once. Subsequent titles can build off that to reuse engine code and assets, and give time to sticking in more of your favourite Pokemon. Well, once this generation. There's no telling how things will shake out next gen for sure.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's the first game on a new platform for them, and it's a real big shift from handhelds to home consoles with what's expected of a title. They also quite likely have to do a lot of work from scratch. Culling the number of Pokemon in the game makes a lot of developmental headaches go away, because the stuff they get working in Sword/Shield only has to be done once. Subsequent titles can build off that to reuse engine code and assets, and give time to sticking in more of your favourite Pokemon. Yeah, again if it was just this gen would be 'argh fine' but Masuda has gone on record saying that no, next gen will be cutting stuff from Gen 8 and nobody really knows what's going to happen. Maybe he'll walk that back but with that being the only thing to go off it's a downer.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:They also quite likely have to do a lot of work from scratch. A big part of the reason people are so frustrated is that they're not doing stuff from scratch. If all the returning pokemon had completely new models and animations in a different art style I think people would be a lot more understanding, but they're reusing the exact same models and animations they had in the 3ds games. Sword and shield actually have significantly less pokemon than X and Y did, despite the fact that Sword and Shield are reusing tons of models and animations from previous games while X and Y had to build everything from scratch.
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Hello my launch joycons are drifting. Are they still offering servicing for them?
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Infinitum posted:Hello my launch joycons are drifting. Where do you live?
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