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scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
Awesome, good to hear. I haven't taken the peppers out of their baths yet but if we see anything weird like that, we'll probably do the rinse method. Thanks, dude! Obviously I will post pics when we're all wrapped up. This was a good excuse to go through our hot sauce cupboard so that we can get some bottles to use.

scuz fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Nov 2, 2019

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scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
Okay, so here we go:



This stuff sat as you see it for 7 days and around day 5 I could get faint whiffs outside of the room.



There were a lot more neglected bottles than I thought. Each of those was either expired (sriracha bottles) or had nearly nothing left in em and went weird and gross-lookin.



Went with a habanero, carrot, and garlic blend and chucked some fresh onions during the blending stage.



So this is the brine. It's funky as heck but it doesn't taste off, just salty and funky. It's funky. Like a blue cheese funky.



Used some of the brine to blend up the veggies. Added around 3/4t of xanthan gum.



Not pictured: a 60 year-old food mill to shove the juices out. Dunno what we're gonna do with that leftover pulp stuff.



Every single one of those bottles got used and now we have jars for giveaways. There's so much of this stuff, idk what I was thinking.

Ate half a cup of it yesterday and I'm not sick today, so that's a good sign!

scuz fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Nov 3, 2019

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


scuz posted:


Every single one of those bottles got used and now we have jars for giveaways. There's so much of this stuff, idk what I was thinking.


oof that's no good for me. I'm on week 2 of a gallon ferment and may just put it all in two large old pickle jars.

Anno
May 10, 2017

I'm going to drown! For no reason at all!

Hello hotsauce goons. Someone at work brought me a couple of bottles of homemade hotsauce she didn't want and I've never had anything nearly that good before, so now I want to get into making my own. Unfortunately she has no idea how it was made, so now I'm looking for advice. Are there any good starting resources out there?

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpPWlJ_gXlg

There's been discussion of making our own sauce in the last few pages too.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
sitrep: my butt hurts, trying another batch with vinegar instead of brine for the final blend-up, this sucks.

scuz fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Nov 4, 2019

Anno
May 10, 2017

I'm going to drown! For no reason at all!

mariooncrack posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpPWlJ_gXlg

There's been discussion of making our own sauce in the last few pages too.

tyty.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

scuz posted:

sitrep: my butt hurts, trying another batch with vinegar instead of brine for the final blend-up, this sucks.

What went wrong?

Anno posted:

Hello hotsauce goons. Someone at work brought me a couple of bottles of homemade hotsauce she didn't want and I've never had anything nearly that good before, so now I want to get into making my own. Unfortunately she has no idea how it was made, so now I'm looking for advice. Are there any good starting resources out there?

You might want to start with a not-fermented hot sauce. My favorite recipe is about 10 habaneros, a head of garlic, a bunch of cilantro leaves (probably about a cup), salt, and a tablespoon or two of yellow mustard in a blender, thinned with cider vinegar until it's the consistency you want. It's delicious and less fiddly than fermentation.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

a foolish pianist posted:

What went wrong?

Probably doing an open-air fermentation vs something with a proper airlock?

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

a foolish pianist posted:

What went wrong?
Well I'm not 100% sure, but

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Probably doing an open-air fermentation vs something with a proper airlock?
It could also be a side-effect of using the cloudy-as-gently caress brine instead of vinegar during the blending phase. I've started another small batch with whatever peppers I had left. This time I made sure the salt was dissolved properly, got a good seal and weighted down the peppers so that everything was submerged. The previous attempt was very messy and a few of the peppers weren't in the brine. I'm also not gonna do a whole week-long ferment, I'll probably whiz it up on day 5 instead of 7.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

scuz posted:

and a few of the peppers weren't in the brine

Fermentation weights. You don't want your veggies exposed to the air.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Fermentation weights. You don't want your veggies exposed to the air.
Hmmmmmmmmmm. I, like many before me, tried out homebrew beer before giving up on it but still have all the equipment. Could I use a 5-gallon bucket carboy with a ferment weight for this? That would make me very happy. I see that most equipment needed for home ferments are ceramic, is that because the bacteria that we want doesn't play nicely with plastic or stainless?

scuz fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Nov 4, 2019

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
You could - I've done it in a carboy that I use for brewing. It's much easier to use mason jars, weights, and airlocks in my opinion. Especially from a cleanup/sani perspective. That and I rarely make more than maybe a gallon at a time. From a post I made awhile back:

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Stuff:
  • 16oz wide-mouth mason jar
  • Fermentation weight (link)
  • Airlock (link)

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

Yeah, I've used these for fermenting a couple of times now. I honestly prefer unfermented sauces, though, at least so far.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
This is what the current setup looks like:



That's a smooth-sided mason jar on top of some parchment and everything else is under it. I get the feeling that this will be good enough for the ferment but we'll see what the experts (aka y'all) think.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Parchment paper, that'll be interesting, maybe. Kinda looks like there are lots of creases for air penetration.

My airlock was leaking and nasties were growing under the lid on one of mine so I stretched a nitrile glove over the top like a balloon, and after several weeks nothing growing but the glove didn't inflate either so it must be air permeable. Now another airlock is leaking and I have something growing under the lid so I'm going to do it again. So gloves work. My daughter fermented something and stretched Saran Wrap over the top and that worked too but it was only a week long ferment.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
EVERY recipe I've googled (shame on me for not just asking here first) hasn't even brought up sealing it air-tight or using airlocks or whatever, so that's weird. Is it just cuz they're only fermenting for like 5 days?

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

scuz posted:

EVERY recipe I've googled (shame on me for not just asking here first) hasn't even brought up sealing it air-tight or using airlocks or whatever, so that's weird. Is it just cuz they're only fermenting for like 5 days?

It‘s not surprising. The old lacto pickles our grandparents used to make just used a plate to keep them submerged in the brine. There was never an airlock. Skim off anything growing on top.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Far from an expert but the build up of co2 helps prevent mold, also having a air tight seal prevents dust and mold spores from entering. Not an issue over a week but I'll be fermenting for months.

Carillon
May 9, 2014






I've always had a ziplock bag filled with the same salt percentage as the brine sitting on top keeping the peppers under the water, and then cover that with a lid. It's worked well for me, no issues with anything growing other than occasionally a small amount of kahm.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Yeah I did the ziplock bag thing and the ones with a silicone airlock developed kahm and mold around the lid even though I sanitized with sanisafe so it must have been leakage. They are those flat silicone Mason jar ring inserts with a nipple. The problem might be the metal rings, they were used. Either way, no issues with the glove so I'm running with it.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

wormil posted:

Yeah I did the ziplock bag thing and the ones with a silicone airlock developed kahm and mold around the lid even though I sanitized with sanisafe so it must have been leakage. They are those flat silicone Mason jar ring inserts with a nipple. The problem might be the metal rings, they were used. Either way, no issues with the glove so I'm running with it.
This is a genius idea and I have many nitrile gloves. I don't suppose it would ever create enough gas to inflate the glove to such a comical and critical degree that it then pops off of the jar. I also assume that re-using gloves is a-okay.

scuz fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Nov 5, 2019

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Gloves are cheap, I would use a fresh one for each batch. Mine hasn't inflated at all, I'm almost disappointed. I was hoping for some sweet IG pics of my rooster jar.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Most of the naturally-occurring bugs aren't going to produce CO2 vigorously enough to inflate anything (in the environment you're providing them, at least). The only time I get CO2 production at that level is when I make kimchi, bread, or beer - all three have a bunch of added sources of sugar to push the fermentation. I've blown up jars of kimchi and bottles of beer before.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

wormil posted:

Gloves are cheap, I would use a fresh one for each batch. Mine hasn't inflated at all, I'm almost disappointed. I was hoping for some sweet IG pics of my rooster jar.
That is VERY disappointing :mad:

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
sitrep:

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3. 4.

I hosed it all up by putting too much xanthan gum in there at too high a speed in the blender, which filled it with tiny bubbles that won't go away :mad: I tried adding water to thin it back out but that just destroyed whatever decent flavor I had going for me and it was really good too. Not all is lost, however:



This is the pulp from my previous ferment that I spread out on parchment and kept in the oven at 170F for ~3 hours. It smells like sauerkraut and tastes like spicy, slightly sweet salt and it's amazing. I have two pint jars full of this pulp so I'mma make a bunch of that stuff.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
Drying is a great idea. I have a frozen hunk of pulp from which I slice off pieces for chili but I'm afraid it's going to get freezer burn. Little goes a long way. Any plans on trying a longer ferment?

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
Yeah, and a longer ferment will give me time to experiment with fresh peppers to FINALLY nail down a recipe for when they're done. Chucked a batch of pulp into the oven over my lunch break so we'll see how a big ol' sheet of that stuff works out.

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

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I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR
Does dehydrating hot peppers cause delicious MACE air like cooking them does? I got a new toaster oven that has a dehydration function, and a quart of really nice Habs I wanna save.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Suspect Bucket posted:

Does dehydrating hot peppers cause delicious MACE air like cooking them does? I got a new toaster oven that has a dehydration function, and a quart of really nice Habs I wanna save.

in my experience there is a pepper odor but it doesn't infect the air with burning like say sautéeing them does.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
God I remember the time I found out my new apartment didn’t have a vent in the kitchen while sautéing a bunch of habs and ghosts. It felt like someone popped a can of OC spray in there.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
Here's the finished product:



I dumped the dried pulp into my coffee grinder that I don't use for coffee and whizzed 'er up real good. Even after letting the grinder sit undisturbed for a full minute, I got into a pretty good sneezing fit after taking the lid off. This stuff is real good. It smells like spicy sauerkraut and the heat doesn't come up right away, either.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I feel like you're just a few processing steps away from having spicy crystal meth or something.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
Isn't that what Jesse was kinda doing at the beginning of Breaking Bad? Using cayenne pepper in his meth or something?

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015


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to
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Suspect Bucket posted:

Does dehydrating hot peppers cause delicious MACE air like cooking them does? I got a new toaster oven that has a dehydration function, and a quart of really nice Habs I wanna save.

It smells incredible in the house when drying habeneros and didn't make me sneeze or cough like cooking them, unfortunately my cat acted like it was mace and hid under the bed the whole day so I moved all future drying out to the porch for her sake.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!

scuz posted:

Here's the finished product:



Add some cumin, garlic, oregano, and paprika to make a chili powder.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

wormil posted:

Add some cumin, garlic, oregano, and paprika to make a chili powder.

:stare: genius. There's already garlic in there but more garlic is always awesome.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

Your ferment was just one day?

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

a foolish pianist posted:

Your ferment was just one day?
It was two, but not for that powder stuff. The powder stuff was fermented for a full week. I'm still tinkering with methods and recipes and honestly I scared myself into ending the ferment early with the orange stuff. The brine started getting cloudy and it wasn't an air-tight seal.

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Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR

Dr_0ctag0n posted:

It smells incredible in the house when drying habeneros and didn't make me sneeze or cough like cooking them, unfortunately my cat acted like it was mace and hid under the bed the whole day so I moved all future drying out to the porch for her sake.

Yeah, we have a dog. She doesn't seem bothered when we're tempering spices, but I dunno how long term exposure might affect her.

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