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What system will you play the Good COD Game on?
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CombatBonta-kun
Sep 22, 2003
Ehhhh?

afkmacro posted:

Sorry that wasn't my intention, I just mean that when I play everybody seems to be on shroud's skill level. Like I've never played an FPS game where everybody on average was this good. Kill cam makes it look like they're cheating too but that's not really accurate so I dunno what gives.

I have been feeling the same way for about half my games.

I'm not great, but I'm not bad either, but there are times when I see videos of people playing and it is almost like the other team doesn't even see them standing in front of them.

But when I'm playing, as soon as I have more than 3 pixels on the other person's screen, they are already aiming for my head. Then despite seeing 3-5 hit markers on them when I seem to start shooting at them first, I die from 2 shots to the dome. Next thing I know, I'm watching the kill cam and it shows them shooting before I am in a position where I can see them. When I'm running Cold-Blooded, Ghost and Dead Silence, it makes me wonder if it was luck for them, me being bad or something screwy with the net-code.

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ZombieCrew
Apr 1, 2019

CombatBonta-kun posted:

I have been feeling the same way for about half my games.

I'm not great, but I'm not bad either, but there are times when I see videos of people playing and it is almost like the other team doesn't even see them standing in front of them.

But when I'm playing, as soon as I have more than 3 pixels on the other person's screen, they are already aiming for my head. Then despite seeing 3-5 hit markers on them when I seem to start shooting at them first, I die from 2 shots to the dome. Next thing I know, I'm watching the kill cam and it shows them shooting before I am in a position where I can see them. When I'm running Cold-Blooded, Ghost and Dead Silence, it makes me wonder if it was luck for them, me being bad or something screwy with the net-code.

I'm in the same boat. Although once I found out how to switch quickplay to hardcore (thanks thread) I've been doing much better. I feel like I was losing fights because my aim wasn't perfect or my gun was outclassed. Hardcore mode you only need a few body shots to win a fight.

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.
It's a combination of:

Skill based match making meaning if you're competent, the other guys are also competent

People have been playing cod for a long rear end time and the only learning curve they need for this game is learn the maps and be more patient (and also just pick overkill+m4+725)

Low ttk

Bad netcode

People only obviously showing off sick replays or really dumb deaths

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

DarkDobe posted:

Sometimes you get some awesome Michael Bay level cams like this:

https://i.gyazo.com/6384cac2677eb6c145ab6775b18c5bdb.mp4
This is some quality poo poo. I had a double betty kill to end a round the other night, but the camera always fucks up with ground-level explosives so it wasn't as funny as it should have been.

CombatBonta-kun
Sep 22, 2003
Ehhhh?

Constellation I posted:

It's a combination of:
People have been playing cod for a long rear end time and the only learning curve they need for this game is learn the maps and be more patient (and also just pick overkill+m4+725)

I really think a lot if it is coming down to the fact that when it was Battlefield vs. Modern Warfare, I always went with the Battlefield series and the last CoD game I really played was Modern Warfare 2.

It doesn't help that the last Battlefield game I really played was Hardline, so this is pretty much the first online FPS I've played in about 4 years.

With all that being said, I'm having a blast most of the time and can't wait to see what the game looks like after I upgrade my video card over the holidays.

Mr. Bad Guy
Jun 28, 2006
Is it weird that I want to main an Assault Rifle other than the M4 purely out of spite? The M13 feels pretty nice. Also the MP7, but mentally I have to get over my "tiny gun" hangup. Because I am a Bigly strong American Man, you see. Somehow I always und up back at the Mk2 though. I have a Long Range Mk2 loadout and an ADS Mk2 loadout. Game is fun.

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



Mr. Bad Guy posted:

Is it weird that I want to main an Assault Rifle other than the M4 purely out of spite? The M13 feels pretty nice. Also the MP7, but mentally I have to get over my "tiny gun" hangup. Because I am a Bigly strong American Man, you see. Somehow I always und up back at the Mk2 though. I have a Long Range Mk2 loadout and an ADS Mk2 loadout. Game is fun.

Let me sell you on the Oden for Big Manly Gun. With the Colossal Suppressor and the extended barrel it is a loving beast. It's a strong chunky boy and each shot feels impactful. Low fire rate means you'll get mulched if you get in a close range fight, but that's what the D.eagle or .357 are there for. I too have a disdain for the M4 simply because it is popular and good. It makes me feel so much better whooping rear end with a less powerful gun.

I think the strangest complaint I see (mostly on Reddit) is the hate for SBMM. So I agree that there should probably be a casual mode of games that just throws everyone together, but holy lol at all these whiny nerds bitching about having to play people that are as good as them. Half the threads on the MW subreddit are "SBMM has destroyed this game". People are so mad that they don't get to regularly clown on people who only play a few hours a week and instead have to play against people of similar skill (like every other competitive game that exists now). I like how the new insult is calling people "sweaty", as though every single person on there isn't also rocking M4/725 and white knuckle gripping their controllers.

Honestly, if I had one real complaint (besides terrible netcode, goddamn do I still die at least 3-5 times every match from turning a corner, spotting an enemy, and freezing for 2 seconds) it would be Overkill. It is way too powerful of a perk, considering the huge importance of choosing guns. I think it should basically not exist, or there should be one Tier of perks that is just all the OP poo poo so you have to choose one. I don't run it because I like to make gimmicky builds, but the difference between having to use a side weapon or being able to rock two incredibly powerful mains is so significant.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Mr. Bad Guy posted:

Is it weird that I want to main an Assault Rifle other than the M4 purely out of spite? The M13 feels pretty nice. Also the MP7, but mentally I have to get over my "tiny gun" hangup. Because I am a Bigly strong American Man, you see. Somehow I always und up back at the Mk2 though. I have a Long Range Mk2 loadout and an ADS Mk2 loadout. Game is fun.

I have a "sweaty" loadout with an M4 but other than that, same. The other guns might not be as efficient but what is the point of buying a shoot game if you are going to use a single gun for 80 hours straight?

I'm the kind of guy who plays the objective at any cost so it's not like I am going to be getting MLGPRO killstreaks anyways.

Mae
Aug 1, 2010

Supesudandi wa, kukan-nai no dandidesu

HukHukHuk posted:

Got my first 15 kill streak today on the shoot house using a snakeshot revolver, thing is absolutely dumb and apparently now the account's favored weapon with 1047 kills. Fully maxed specialist bonus is insane with all the perks.

Did you have trouble leveling it up? Are you just a headshot monster or what? The trigger delay feels a bit strange and the 2 shot kill feels kinda sad compared to other weapons.

Also, check this beauty out - if someones looking for a run and gun LMG, this has pretty crisp ADS and makes people disappear instantly.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Mae posted:

Did you have trouble leveling it up? Are you just a headshot monster or what? The trigger delay feels a bit strange and the 2 shot kill feels kinda sad compared to other weapons.

I find it is best used when weaving in and out of cover. It two shots over most distances and a lot of morons just stand still while trying to snipe you with an assault rifle, so proper positioning makes leveling it pretty easy.

vivisectvnv
Aug 5, 2003
i was totally turned off by the EBR marksman in the beta, even when properly kitted

but they definitely buffed it quite a bit and it is fantastic!

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
I don't use guns anymore in this game because I basically lose like 60% of gunfights even if they don't see me before I fire first and get 2 or 3 bullets into them because somehow they will still whip around, lock onto my head and instantly kill me.

But I'm perfectly happy going like 5-15 in a dom game with my shield, spear (RPG) and special delivery packages. I'll just constantly run at and cap points even if I'm all alone because it's hilarious to me when I manage to solo cap a point while two or three people are trying to kill me through the shield.

Plus it's hilarious watching how people react to the shield. It's fun watching people back away from me and around a corner because I just toss a package at them and give them a rude surprise. However, it is really disappointing when you get into a staredown with someone who is trying to figure out how to deal with me and then one of his teammates kills me from a flank.

Still wish the shield hit was a little better and more powerful.

LLJKSiLk
Jul 7, 2005

by Athanatos

Mr. Bad Guy posted:

Is it weird that I want to main an Assault Rifle other than the M4 purely out of spite? The M13 feels pretty nice. Also the MP7, but mentally I have to get over my "tiny gun" hangup. Because I am a Bigly strong American Man, you see. Somehow I always und up back at the Mk2 though. I have a Long Range Mk2 loadout and an ADS Mk2 loadout. Game is fun.

I switched to the AK-47 as soon as I was able. You'll win a lot more multi-fights against 2-3 people.

EAT FASTER!!!!!!
Sep 21, 2002

Legendary.


:hampants::hampants::hampants:
The AK47 is an amazing gun, and we had some enemies in the lobby yesterday who were dropping them and I'd pick them up every single time. It's a lot of fun.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

Fuk the m4 im demoting it to m3

vivisectvnv
Aug 5, 2003
AK is fantastic, you can basically set up 4 totally different classes of guns when you unlock all the attachments:

-a run and gun with the shorter barrel, the 40 round magazine and bayonet if you are feeling spicy
-a marksman version once you unlock the Romanian Barrel
-an RPK clone with the drum magazine
-and just a ye ol classic with all the middle of the line handling, recoil and aim-time stats

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
Search and Destroy is the worst game mode for people who suck.

"Oh no, I got myself killed in the first 30 seconds. Now to wait several minutes for the match to finish because the teams would rather camp themselves instead of going for the damned objectives."

Cyber Attack is adjacent to it, but at least there is the possibility of revival.

Anyway, thank god they let you filter out game types in the quickplay.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Unlucky7 posted:

Search and Destroy is the worst game mode for people who suck.

"Oh no, I got myself killed in the first 30 seconds. Now to wait several minutes for the match to finish because the teams would rather camp themselves instead of going for the damned objectives."


I wish they could have done a Siege and figured out a way for the dead to still contribute to the team, like giving them a one time recon drone or something.

NtotheTC
Dec 31, 2007



gotta agree with ol' teabagger 69 420 there

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

I’m also a big fan of an overkill oden mp5. I set up the oden with the colossal suppressor, 810mm, 3x, and whatever other recoil control I can swing. It has absolutely terrible mobility but the damage and controllability is superb so I use for posting up and covering high traffic lanes to objectives. The mp5 is set up for maximum mobility and importantly, uses the mp5sd integrated suppressor barrel which hides death markers to the enemy team. With its movement speed attachments, ghost, and dead silence, repositioning can be accomplished very quickly since run speed is tied to whichever weapon is currently equipped.

I keep equipping new favorite guns, which just made me realize that this game is less about picking meta guns and more about finding the one that subjectively feels the best, as almost all of them are uniquely viable and fun.

I did just unlock the SVD blueprint from the best of the best mission chain so I’ll probably give that a whirl instead of the oden.

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

Also just in case anyone doesn’t know, you can save custom blueprints for weapon setups you feel you’ve perfected.

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

CombatBonta-kun posted:

I have been feeling the same way for about half my games.

I'm not great, but I'm not bad either, but there are times when I see videos of people playing and it is almost like the other team doesn't even see them standing in front of them.

But when I'm playing, as soon as I have more than 3 pixels on the other person's screen, they are already aiming for my head. Then despite seeing 3-5 hit markers on them when I seem to start shooting at them first, I die from 2 shots to the dome. Next thing I know, I'm watching the kill cam and it shows them shooting before I am in a position where I can see them. When I'm running Cold-Blooded, Ghost and Dead Silence, it makes me wonder if it was luck for them, me being bad or something screwy with the net-code.

A lot of my matches are like that too and I think it’s by design. By scrutinizing my gameplay, I noticed I was dying while trying to ADS out of a run all the friggin time. So while I still get utterly trounced by some players, I have found the best remedy to winning those trades to be slowing down, learning the maps intimately, and preemptively aiming where a bad man is statistically likely to be.

Sadly there is no total cure to getting owned.

Arae
Jul 27, 2003
If the game forgets the challenge that i'm tracking, then did i lose my progress?

I'm trying to do a hard one, but the game automatically unchecked the challenge. The game shows that im on step 4 of 7, but step 4 is listed as 0%.

I try to re-enable the challenge, but it unchecks itself after every game. Do i really have to recheck this every game?

Challenges were "working" for me until i tried this one...

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



Anyone available for some tryhard specops?

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!
I just unlocked the short AKSU barrel for the AK and even though it's a fun gun to use it's still an m4 that's just more effort for less reward because the other guy has a higher rof and no recoil.

e: holy crap I finally did it

Sultan Tarquin fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Nov 11, 2019

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG

The Bananana posted:

Anyone available for some tryhard specops?

How tryhard are you talking? I've never actually played specops yet but I'm down, just gotta tell me what to do.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

vivisectvnv posted:

AK is fantastic, you can basically set up 4 totally different classes of guns when you unlock all the attachments:

-a run and gun with the shorter barrel, the 40 round magazine and bayonet if you are feeling spicy
-a marksman version once you unlock the Romanian Barrel
-an RPK clone with the drum magazine
-and just a ye ol classic with all the middle of the line handling, recoil and aim-time stats

Be sure to put the sleight of hand perk on for those mag sweep reloads :c00l:

CascadeBeta
Feb 14, 2009

by Cyrano4747
The most frustrating build I've run into so far has got to be overkilled riot shield/725. Even post nerf that thing is still completely decimates. Whenever I get killed by someone jumping around the corner with their 725 out another part of me dies.

Hackan Slash
May 31, 2007
Hit it until it's not a problem anymore
I'm going to be sad when shoot house 24/7 goes away and CoD is bad again.

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Hackan Slash posted:

I'm going to be sad when shoot house 24/7 goes away and CoD is bad again.

Lmao rockets, c4 and the riot shield owns in dom games of shoothouse. Always shoot rockets at or around the B point. And then rush in with the shield and sit in the corner next to B until you get blown up.

vivisectvnv
Aug 5, 2003

Sultan Tarquin posted:

I just unlocked the short AKSU barrel for the AK and even though it's a fun gun to use it's still an m4 that's just more effort for less reward because the other guy has a higher rof and no recoil.

just and fyi, m4 got a significant buff to it's recoil parameters

also how are you going to cos-play as a member of the Alpha Group in deep cover dressed as a gopnik carrying a loving M4, grossss

Sultan Tarquin
Jul 29, 2007

and what kind of world would it be? HUH?!

vivisectvnv posted:

just and fyi, m4 got a significant buff to it's recoil parameters


It sure as poo poo doesn't feel like it

IM DAY DAY IRL
Jul 11, 2003

Everything's fine.

Nothing to see here.

Sultan Tarquin posted:

It sure as poo poo doesn't feel like it

it absolutely does and required that I dropped some of my ADS speed attachments to recoil reduction if I still wanted to reliably engage people at or beyond mid-range

there are points where I wonder if I'm playing the same game as half the people in this thread

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

The Bananana posted:

Anyone available for some tryhard specops?

I’m into this in a few hours

I really need that otter skin, plus they supposedly tuned it

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

Hackan Slash posted:

I'm going to be sad when shoot house 24/7 goes away and CoD is bad again.

Heresy! The temple of shoot house is eternal.

I am a bit curious to see if it has made me any better at all the other mw maps, but unless they force me to queue for them I’ll never know.

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG
God drat the MK2 carbine is brutal if your first shot doesn't kill. Seems like there's little reason to run that instead of the actual M14. Other than being cool, of course.

Daric
Dec 23, 2007

Shawn:
Do you really want to know my process?

Lassiter:
Absolutely.

Shawn:
Well it starts with a holla! and ends with a Creamsicle.

IM DAY DAY IRL posted:

it absolutely does and required that I dropped some of my ADS speed attachments to recoil reduction if I still wanted to reliably engage people at or beyond mid-range

there are points where I wonder if I'm playing the same game as half the people in this thread

What are you playing on? Console or PC? Console it has pretty significant recoil but I'd be willing to bet PC has less.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Sooo...Have they just given up on trying to make spec ops any fun or not buggy as poo poo? Like, not a single update has addressed it's mountain of issues.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

veni veni veni posted:

Sooo...Have they just given up on trying to make spec ops any fun or not buggy as poo poo? Like, not a single update has addressed it's mountain of issues.

I thought the last patch did address a bunch of them? It’s just that it’s a very, very big mountain

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Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

veni veni veni posted:

Sooo...Have they just given up on trying to make spec ops any fun or not buggy as poo poo? Like, not a single update has addressed it's mountain of issues.

Shame that Spec Ops sucks at the moment apparently. I would have liked a Co-Op mode that wasn't Zombies

Also, why do people like Zombies? It is the Monopoly of Multiplayer Shooty Man Games (In that everyone gets bored after a half hour and no one has properly completed a game).

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