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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, friend. Sorry got the year wrong, it was 1998. https://www.ebay.com/itm/TOR-Terry-Goodkind-DEBT-OF-BONES-1st-Edition-Paperback-JORDAN-MISPRINT-/193090494316 Tor actually did a recall but there's still plenty of copies lying around. I don't think there's any way at all that happens without someone at Tor deliberately loving with the printing process. edit: since it's top of the thread, here's (someone else's) photo of the copyright page in question: 
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The Lord Bude posted:Your left nut as well no doubt. Robin Hobb is way down the list as well, her writing is excellent and she's sold far less than Sanderson. Speaking of which, I'd love to see that on the screen. i don't know, even in our modern age of grimdark the robin hobb books may be too relentlessly depressing. she rules though, i watched a video of some authors panel at a con and she seems like a really thoughtful, cool person
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eke out posted:she rules though, i watched a video of some authors panel at a con and she seems like a really thoughtful, cool person Yeah, although she turns into a frothing loon the instant anyone mentions fan fiction.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Sorry got the year wrong, it was 1998. AHAHAHAHAHA get rekt There are errors and errors, and this is one of the good kind
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Nov 12, 2019 05:21
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The Lord Bude posted:Yeah, although she turns into a frothing loon the instant anyone mentions fan fiction. Yeah, her attitude to fan fiction is nuts. Still, her books are really good, and it's sad that she doesn't get more recognition. That said, I didn't find her books too grimdark. Not more than those of Joe Abercrombie, for example. As for Sanderson, I like his books a lot. Of course his WoT books are not as good as Robert Jordan's, but that's just because he finished a work not his own. And he did it rather well, imho. And even if you think books 12-14 were just mediocre, knowing how the series ended should be worth it regardless. Reading Elantris first is a mistake btw., because it was his first published book, and is easily his worst. Emperor's Soul is so much better, and won a Hugo for a reason.
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Nov 12, 2019 05:27
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:AHAHAHAHAHA get rekt
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The Lord Bude posted:Yeah, although she turns into a frothing loon the instant anyone mentions fan fiction. Torrannor posted:Yeah, her attitude to fan fiction is nuts. Does this mean that she supports writing fan fiction?
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ChubbyChecker posted:Does this mean that she supports writing fan fiction? Nope. Now I personally don't care about fan fiction, but whatever floats your boat. Hobb however went on a crazy rant about how "writing fanfiction is stealing my intellectual property!!! even if you do it for free!"
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Nov 12, 2019 11:40
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The Lord Bude posted:Yeah, although she turns into a frothing loon the instant anyone mentions fan fiction. oh lmao i had no idea
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I haven't read any of her works, nor read her opinions about fanfiction, but after quick googling I found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/robinhobb/comments/36zz8z/hobbs_view_on_fanfiction/ Doesn't really seem as bad as some people made it sound. If I was an author I wouldn't either like people writing stories about how my characters are raped by diaper wearing furry Spocks.
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Actually it sounds pretty terrible to me: https://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Fan_Fiction_Rantquote:“What is the harm in it?”  that "fan fiction is like any other form of identify theft", are you loving kidding meedit: reading this whole thing, she sounds pretty nutso, asserting that writing fan fiction must mean you think the author really screwed up, comparing writing fan fiction to doing creepy, perverted things with family reunion photos or posting porn under someone else's name, etc. Cicero fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Nov 12, 2019 |
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Fan fiction is extremely cringe.
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Nov 12, 2019 14:55
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bloom posted:My right nut is better than Goodkind. But he is a right nut
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Apparatchik Magnet posted:Fan fiction is extremely cringe. It is not a thing I am interested in but fan fiction is a way for people to be creative using characters and ideas they're familiar with. Lots of successful people got their start exploring their creativity by imitation and using elements of things they love.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:It is not a thing I am interested in but fan fiction is a way for people to be creative using characters and ideas they're familiar with. Lots of successful people got their start exploring their creativity by imitation and using elements of things they love. And some people got successful by adapting their fanfiction into viable franchises. See Fifty Shades, or Outlander for examples.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:It is not a thing I am interested in but fan fiction is a way for people to be creative using characters and ideas they're familiar with. Lots of successful people got their start exploring their creativity by imitation and using elements of things they love. I'm in a similar boat. I'm not interested in reading it, but it provides some "world building" for recreational writers to simply focus on storytelling. It's kind of like making a mod for a video game. It's a lot of effort to create your own art, audio etc..
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:It is not a thing I am interested in but fan fiction is a way for people to be creative using characters and ideas they're familiar with. Lots of successful people got their start exploring their creativity by imitation and using elements of things they love. Yes, and it's extremely cringe. Like anime and Christian rock.
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"An old forest, one that could swallow armies whole and never give up the bones." I like all the little cross-referencing he does.
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Nihilarian posted:Sanderson is better than Goodkind Yeah I cannot fathom someone saying Sanderson is the worst big name fantasy author out there. I mean I also don't mind his books, but even so. Sword of Truth is *so goddamn bad*.
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Sanderson's kind of bad is mostly that it's not all that interesting to read. He has clever mechanics and plot devices, but the characters are samey and flat and they are usually a slog in the middle. But they're notably devoid of his personal fetishes and have the least amount of rape in fantasy (though it's still there, at least in the original Mistborn).
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Apparatchik Magnet posted:Yes, and it's extremely cringe. Like anime and Christian rock. 
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I'm going through the series again, and I took a detour to finally read New Spring, which I left out in my original read-through. It was good! It definitely feels like that's where RJ got his groove back after book 10. Now that I'm done with that, what all is left in the WoT canon (outside the main 14 books)? I know about The Strike at Shayol Ghul and The River of Souls, and I know there's also the Big Book of Bad Art and the WoT Companion, although those aren't really meant to be read as a book from what I can tell. Is there anything else?
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Unfettered III came out earlier this year and contains "A Fire Within the Ways", which is a non-canon short novella about Perrin and some others entering the ways to stop the Dark One's forces from using them. It was originally written to be included in A Memory of Light but cut during editing.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Wait what's this about the strike at shayol ghul? Full text here; it's a very short read. I read it tonight after work since I'd never actually read it before. For people who haven't finished the main series, I don't think it gives anything away once you know who the Hundred Companions are, although someone might correct me on this.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Sanderson's kind of bad is mostly that it's not all that interesting to read. He has clever mechanics and plot devices, but the characters are samey and flat and they are usually a slog in the middle. No. Tolkien had the least.
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Fanfiction writer found.
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Apparently this has already been renewed for a season two? https://twitter.com/rafejudkins/status/1194733505328173057
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It seems like in the post-GoT fantastical *and expensive* prestige TV series world you're not taken seriously unless you greenlight the second season before the first actually airs.
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Okay I started my umpteenth reread, and this has bugged me for years. I know next to nothing about women's clothes. What is a dress slashed with some color? What does that mean? Can someone point me to an image of such a dress?
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Unless I'm mistaken, this refers to a dress where the skirt is slit at regular intervals, and fabric of another color is sewn between the cuts, giving a two-tone look.
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Gnoman posted:Unless I'm mistaken, this refers to a dress where the skirt is slit at regular intervals, and fabric of another color is sewn between the cuts, giving a two-tone look. I think that's what I was picturing, but then couldn't find examples, because I'm bad at google AND bad at clothing...
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silvergoose posted:Okay I started my umpteenth reread, and this has bugged me for years. Rpbert Jordan Interview posted:Q106: What does it mean when dresses are slashed with a color? What Gnoman said, in other words. e: Something like this, perhaps:  ee: fixing attribution. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Nov 14, 2019 |
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How are u posted:It seems like in the post-GoT fantastical *and expensive* prestige TV series world you're not taken seriously unless you greenlight the second season before the first actually airs. It's got to be this. His Dark Materials was renewed for a second season despite the first few episodes being incredibly underwhelming. Not bad, just flat.
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You mean Gnoman. Thanks! I'm not at all surprised it's a real thing, just...couldn't find it.
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Atlas Hugged posted:It's got to be this. His Dark Materials was renewed for a second season despite the first few episodes being incredibly underwhelming. Not bad, just flat. Wait, there's a show of that now too?
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Wait, there's a show of that now too? Yep, HBO exclusive. Even if it's flat, it sounds way better than the movie which was so, so bad.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Wait, there's a show of that now too? Yep. HBO is making it. The second episode aired yesterday. I watched the first one and it actually seems pretty good? It's been forever since I read the books, but so far it seems way better than the movie that was made about 10 years or so ago.
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We're in a real renaissance for fantasy adaptations. It's great. There's an adaptation in the works for Tamora Pierce's books as well that I'm excited for.
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Witcher series just got renewed for a second season also. 1st season premiers in December.
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