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The Cameo posted:Because they don’t know how to book a face “king” despite the idea behind the tournament supposedly being “who’s the best wrestler in the company who isn’t already a champ?” Oh I thought the winner just received a stupid new gimmick and faces weren't dumb enough to fall for it.
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Edge & Christian posted:I think the only babyface that won King of the Ring after it became a televised/PPV event instead of a special house show was Bret Hart in the first KoTR, and that was mostly to set up a feud with Jerry "The King" Lawler. Edge was a face when he won it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khdezq1z1Mc Was this scripted? Or did Vince McMahon actually allow Daniel Bryan to come up with his own promo? I ask because as we all know, Vince hates the term "professional wrestling".
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Bryan is one of the people that's a big enough star that he'll have some leeway to improv.
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Nov 15, 2019 12:49
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Gaz-L posted:Bryan is one of the people that's a big enough star that he'll have some leeway to improv. Oh I get that, and I also get that WWE are so scared of him leaving that they'll let him get away with pretty much anything, but allowing him to say one of Vince's most hated terms?
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Dell_Zincht posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khdezq1z1Mc A tiny handful get creative control over most of their promos, Bryan and I think Bray being the obvious ones
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Dell_Zincht posted:Oh I get that, and I also get that WWE are so scared of him leaving that they'll let him get away with pretty much anything, but allowing him to say one of Vince's most hated terms?
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Double-post, but what the gently caress? Taker gives Triple H a stinger with the Tombstone, so everybody else is now prohibited from doing piledrivers...except Taker. And Kane. Dredging this back up, but didn't the ban directly precede Taker moving to the last ride and Kane mostly just chokeslamming people? I could be wrong as I'm dumb as gently caress and have forgotten more important stuff from two decades ago
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fatherofmustard posted:Edge was a face when he won it. So three out of fifteen have been babyfaces.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:A tiny handful get creative control over most of their promos, Bryan and I think Bray being the obvious ones Cue flashback to Twitter morons and Vince (via Cole) ranting about Bryan's lack of charisma and promo ability.
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Nov 15, 2019 16:25
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I think Edge was a babyface when he won it. And Billy Gunn too.
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What is Billy Gunn doing these days? I know he got fired from WWE a few years ago. I'd like to think he cries himself to sleep at night.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:What is Billy Gunn doing these days? I know he got fired from WWE a few years ago. I'd like to think he cries himself to sleep at night. Had a match with Tanahashi, is now a producer for AEW.
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If that's a real question he works for AEW as a producer. If it's not, he still works for AEW as a producer I guess. His employment status isn't really contingent on your sincerity.
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Davros1 posted:I think Edge was a babyface when he won it. And Billy Gunn too. His KOTR win was to set up a feud/Summerslam match with the Rock (which was the stealth introduction of Kiss My rear end stipulations before Vince got in on it), in which the Rock annihilated him on promos and he never recovered.
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I hope he's doing good work for AEW. I just never liked the loving guy.
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Splitting hairs, but I think Edge was technically a popular heel when he won KOTR but was a full fledged face within a few weeks of winning it anyway.
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reality_groove posted:Splitting hairs, but I think Edge was technically a popular heel when he won KOTR but was a full fledged face within a few weeks of winning it anyway. His acceptance speech where he annihilated what was left of Billy Gunn's credibility turned him face
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Does anyone have a link to the "that escalated quickly" Gary Albright promo? Real heads know the one.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:His acceptance speech where he annihilated what was left of Billy Gunn's credibility turned him face But even then, they had Christian doing the standard heel King routine behind Edge’s back so like with Bret, they had a pre-planned angle where they could use the king gimmick without it coming off dickish.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:His acceptance speech where he annihilated what was left of Billy Gunn's credibility turned him face I still laugh at, "Billy Bitch Cakes"
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TheKingslayer posted:I still laugh at, "Billy Bitch Cakes" It essentially became his name on the internet for a while
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Is tiger mask w worth watching? It's on tubi and I've been considering giving it a go. I love NJPW and watch quite a bit of it. I lke some anime(tokyo ghoul, cowboy bebop, some miyazaki and a few others) but I'm not too versed in it. I'm not really sure how much of tiger mask w is about actual pro wrestling or if the characters are more fantastical or what
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It treats wrestling as if it's a shoot and the plot is silly in places but it's pretty good and the animation ranges from okay to good to great (like all Toei Productions hi Precure/DBZ/Sailor Moon). Also it ends with Tiger Mask facing Kota Ibushi in a gym with Kota voicing Kota which is amazing as Ibushi was the one who wrestled as Tiger Mask X
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What's the longest anyone has kept someone in a submission hold during a match? I seem to remember Shawn Michaels being in the ankle lock for like an hour and a half once.
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Triple H was in the gogoplata for about a week at the end of his WM27 match
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Bret spent what seemed like an eternity in Backlund's chickenwing before Owen threw in the towel during Survivor Series 94.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:What's the longest anyone has kept someone in a submission hold during a match? I remember someone being in Yoshi-Hashi's Butterfly Lock for what felt like the full 30 minutes during last year's G1. Pretty sure whoever it was won that match.
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jesus WEP posted:Triple H was in the gogoplata for about a week at the end of his WM27 match He took forever to tap out to crossface at WM 20, too. That invisible wrestler really needs to tighten up his poo poo.
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Suzuki had Tanahashi in a kneebar for like 6 minutes when he won the IWGP IC title.
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Gaz-L posted:Suzuki had Tanahashi in a kneebar for like 6 minutes when he won the IWGP IC title. I think you will find it was closer to 9999 years. At least it felt like it. (That match is honestly one of my favorite matches of all time)
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jesus WEP posted:E: needlessly tasteless
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I hope Bryan has Wyatt in the Yes Lock for 20 minutes before passing out himself from the strain of keeping the hold.
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Dell_Zincht posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khdezq1z1Mc if memory serves this promo also wasn't in the ring on TV or during a PPV, it was build-up to the PPV, and you can definitely tell "things Vince cares about" and "things Vince doesn't care about" by seeing where people go off-script or improvise the promos. It's the reason a lot of the YouTube series over the past decade or so were entertaining (even with guys like JBL and Cole it was passably fun) and why everything in the ring and on TV...isn't.
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Speaking of which, how they hell have they not revisited the WWE Warehouse idea? Sure, don't have Joey Styles host it, but they have that gigantic warehouse with all sorts of cool stuff. That could easily be a fifteen minute show here and there. poo poo, I was excited just to see the blimps that used to float around arenas in the late 90s.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Speaking of which, how they hell have they not revisited the WWE Warehouse idea? Sure, don't have Joey Styles host it, but they have that gigantic warehouse with all sorts of cool stuff. That could easily be a fifteen minute show here and there. poo poo, I was excited just to see the blimps that used to float around arenas in the late 90s. Let Zack Ryder host it, seems extremely up his alley
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What happens if you cash in Money in the Bank when the title is vacant?
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