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NtotheTC posted:

Everything is inbred to hell at this point so I don't even know why they bother trying to separate these things into "flavours" of *nix other than ancient tribalism

Package managers.

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Custard Undies: Jan 7, 2006; #essereFerrari

AmigaOS/Workbench 1.3 or get the gently caress out!

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Literally Lewis Hamilton: Feb 22, 2005

I�ve used all these OS and more

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DoctorGonzo: Jul 25, 2016; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

windows 10

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big crush on Chad OMG posted:

I�ve used all these OS and more

I'm struggling to think of an OS I haven't used. :corsair:

Probably quite a lot, but still....

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DoctorGonzo posted:

windows 10

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Khablam: Mar 29, 2012

NtotheTC posted:

It still has a poo poo load of protocols and utilities from GNU. If you want an OS* that doesn't have Stallmans gross cheeto-fingerprints all over it your only option is Windows

MaxOS has nothing in common with Linux at the kernel level, which is what the comment is about.
Mac OS is a micro kernel (their original pre-NeXT OS) and a monolithic kernel heavily based on FreeBSD, but essentially copied the architecture rather than lifted the code wholesale.
Linux was written after this, based on neither, and is a single monolithic kernel. It's why it's vastly more effecient and runs most of the servers in the world.
Windows is essentially the MacOS model but without the monolithic kernel and cobbles together everything one should do out of higher level components. This is why it's largely slower, larger, and fundamentally insecure by design.

Saying they're all the same because some userland tools and switches share the same name is like saying every car is "basically the same" because they have a steering wheel and a button that says air conditioning.

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Literally Lewis Hamilton: Feb 22, 2005

Khablam posted:

MaxOS has nothing in common with Linux at the kernel level, which is what the comment is about.
Mac OS is a micro kernel (their original pre-NeXT OS) and a monolithic kernel heavily based on FreeBSD, but essentially copied the architecture rather than lifted the code wholesale.
Linux was written after this, based on neither, and is a single monolithic kernel. It's why it's vastly more effecient and runs most of the servers in the world.
Windows is essentially the MacOS model but without the monolithic kernel and cobbles together everything one should do out of higher level components. This is why it's largely slower, larger, and fundamentally insecure by design.

Saying they're all the same because some userland tools and switches share the same name is like saying every car is "basically the same" because they have a steering wheel and a button that says air conditioning.

Nerd

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Khablam posted:

MaxOS has nothing in common with Linux at the kernel level, which is what the comment is about.
Mac OS is a micro kernel (their original pre-NeXT OS) and a monolithic kernel heavily based on FreeBSD, but essentially copied the architecture rather than lifted the code wholesale.
Linux was written after this, based on neither, and is a single monolithic kernel. It's why it's vastly more effecient and runs most of the servers in the world.
Windows is essentially the MacOS model but without the monolithic kernel and cobbles together everything one should do out of higher level components. This is why it's largely slower, larger, and fundamentally insecure by design.

Saying they're all the same because some userland tools and switches share the same name is like saying every car is "basically the same" because they have a steering wheel and a button that says air conditioning.

Windows had a monolithic kernel until like win2k or something.

But yeah, the major difference between most flavours of *nix is the package manager.

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Tony quidprano: Jan 19, 2014

Khablam posted:

MaxOS has nothing in common with Linux at the kernel level, which is what the comment is about.
Mac OS is a micro kernel (their original pre-NeXT OS) and a monolithic kernel heavily based on FreeBSD, but essentially copied the architecture rather than lifted the code wholesale.
Linux was written after this, based on neither, and is a single monolithic kernel. It's why it's vastly more effecient and runs most of the servers in the world.
Windows is essentially the MacOS model but without the monolithic kernel and cobbles together everything one should do out of higher level components. This is why it's largely slower, larger, and fundamentally insecure by design.

Saying they're all the same because some userland tools and switches share the same name is like saying every car is "basically the same" because they have a steering wheel and a button that says air conditioning.

Same tbh.

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Tony quidprano: Jan 19, 2014

I use TempleOS

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You Am I: May 20, 2001; Me @ your poasting

Custard Undies posted:

AmigaOS/Workbench 1.3 or get the gently caress out!

TOS 1.62

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You Am I posted:

TOS 1.62

Them's fighting words! Atari sucks! Amiga (Commodore) forever! :boom:

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Khablam posted:

MaxOS has nothing in common with Linux at the kernel level, which is what the comment is about.
Mac OS is a micro kernel (their original pre-NeXT OS) and a monolithic kernel heavily based on FreeBSD, but essentially copied the architecture rather than lifted the code wholesale.
Linux was written after this, based on neither, and is a single monolithic kernel. It's why it's vastly more effecient and runs most of the servers in the world.
Windows is essentially the MacOS model but without the monolithic kernel and cobbles together everything one should do out of higher level components. This is why it's largely slower, larger, and fundamentally insecure by design.

Saying they're all the same because some userland tools and switches share the same name is like saying every car is "basically the same" because they have a steering wheel and a button that says air conditioning.

I'm gonna bet you have at least at one point in your life installed Gentoo.

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NtotheTC: Dec 31, 2007

Khablam posted:

MaxOS has nothing in common with Linux at the kernel level, which is what the comment is about.
Mac OS is a micro kernel (their original pre-NeXT OS) and a monolithic kernel heavily based on FreeBSD, but essentially copied the architecture rather than lifted the code wholesale.
Linux was written after this, based on neither, and is a single monolithic kernel. It's why it's vastly more effecient and runs most of the servers in the world.
Windows is essentially the MacOS model but without the monolithic kernel and cobbles together everything one should do out of higher level components. This is why it's largely slower, larger, and fundamentally insecure by design.

Saying they're all the same because some userland tools and switches share the same name is like saying every car is "basically the same" because they have a steering wheel and a button that says air conditioning.

Appreciate the big dumb effort post. If they'd taught you reading comprehension at your fancy private school you'd see that I didn't say "all OS's are the same" I said "they're inbred" which is something I'd have thought you'd be familiar ( :haw:

) with. The original point was that Richard Stallman, noted toe-scab eater, has a load of involvement in MacOS just the same as in Linux and has that has nothing to do with the specific kernel the OS uses so not sure why you brought it up?

e: oh you brought it up because wicka said BSD-derived which was entirely not the point we were talking about so that's another indictment of your expensive education. the kernel is a component of an OS not the OS itself.

NtotheTC fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Nov 23, 2019

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NtotheTC: Dec 31, 2007

Also if you care about Linux more than "I use it for work" you're a nerd hth

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Khablam: Mar 29, 2012

NtotheTC posted:

Appreciate the big dumb effort post. If they'd taught you reading comprehension at your fancy private school you'd see that I didn't say "all OS's are the same" I said "they're inbred" which is something I'd have thought you'd be familiar () with. The original point was that Richard Stallman, noted toe-scab eater, has a load of involvement in MacOS just the same as in Linux and has that has nothing to do with the specific kernel the OS uses so not sure why you brought it up?

Do you think anything opensource is inherently the work of Stallman, and therefore bad, or how are you coming to these misconceptions?
Your statement parses as "all versions of linux, unix BSD and MacOS are essentially the same because they use opensource somewhere".

Which is dumb, so feel free to make an actual statement that isn't just you walking it back whilst trying to throw in some 'gotchas' AKA all your posting.

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Custard Undies posted:

Them's fighting words! Atari sucks! Amiga (Commodore) forever!

Thanks for that Eric Schwartz

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NtotheTC: Dec 31, 2007

shut the gently caress up khablam

# ? Nov 23, 2019 12:39

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester: Oct 3, 2000

Khablam posted:

anything opensource is inherently the work of Stallman, and therefore bad,

How can a morally grounded and rational citizen doubt this obvious fact? Open source is literally the Jeffrey Epstein's plane of software

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Theophany: Jul 22, 2014; SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO

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some of y'all need to chill the gently caress out and accept rms as your personal saviour

# ? Nov 23, 2019 12:55

wicka: Jun 28, 2007

Khablam posted:

Do you think anything opensource is inherently the work of Stallman

This would piss Stallman off so much, good job.

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Tony quidprano: Jan 19, 2014

Can someone help me program in Holy C? All this loving OS has is bible hymns

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Rhopunzel: Jan 6, 2006; Stroll together, win together

i loving hate nerds

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Rhopunzel posted:

i loving hate ~~nerds~~ this thread

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Theophany: Jul 22, 2014; SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMRLFJh0TVs

I mean is it even The Chain when the instrumental is gone?

# ? Nov 23, 2019 18:20

DoctorGonzo: Jul 25, 2016; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Theophany posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMRLFJh0TVs

I mean is it even The Chain when the instrumental is gone?

this is trash

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF-hMABAr74 this is good

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Tony quidprano: Jan 19, 2014

can one of you nerds please tell me how I fix this.

# ? Nov 23, 2019 19:18

Theophany: Jul 22, 2014; SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO

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the kentucky quid posted:

can one of you nerds please tell me how I fix this.

Bin your laptop and collect some tyres whiilst you're in there.

# ? Nov 23, 2019 19:39

Tony quidprano: Jan 19, 2014

Do I need to get a new laptop for this?

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wicka: Jun 28, 2007

the kentucky quid posted:

can one of you nerds please tell me how I fix this.

I didn't realize VirtualBox ran on Windows 3.1

# ? Nov 23, 2019 19:48

Theophany: Jul 22, 2014; SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO

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the kentucky quid posted:

Do I need to get a new laptop for this?

My friend, you need help.

# ? Nov 23, 2019 19:50

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Custard Undies posted:

I'm struggling to think of an OS I haven't used.

Probably quite a lot, but still....

BeOS

# ? Nov 23, 2019 21:13

NtotheTC: Dec 31, 2007

the kentucky quid posted:

can one of you nerds please tell me how I fix this.

so who's going to sack up and fork this so we can have #blessedOS

# ? Nov 23, 2019 21:17

wicka: Jun 28, 2007

NtotheTC posted:

so who's going to sack up and fork this so we can have #blessedOS

Can you write an OS in Powershell?

# ? Nov 23, 2019 21:21

Theophany: Jul 22, 2014; SUCCHIAMI IL MIO CAZZO DA DIETRO, RANA RAGAZZO

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Sorry to bring this turd after a curry of a thread back to racing, but holy lmao:

https://grist.org/article/ford-v-ferrari-is-the-climate-change-horror-film-nobody-needed/

I am watching the 24 Hour War on Netflix as I post this and it loving owns.

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