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Dongattack posted:So is this still a catastrophe or is it starting to become a game now? Haven't read this thread or up on the game in like 2 years i think. Youtubers and streamers i follow have started to play it and the graphics look nice at least and the cat goon guy isn't making mock videos of it anymore.
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TheAgent posted:This is absolutely the best time to buy in. I'd recommend a starter pack (only $45) and then upgrading your ship to a Hornet for about $90 more. I don't know what all these people in here bitch about, Star Citizen is pretty much done at this point and has hundreds of hours of content. Millions of people are in and having fun, and if you want, there's a free-fly event going on where you can experience all the fun for yourself for free. Just 90$ to buy in? Meh, this game was cool when you had to sell your house to buy a decent ship, now it's OBVIOUSLY normie central. #NotMySpaceSim
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Been a perfect circle of a venn diagram for years now
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lmao at a roadmap showing that it takes months to add a sniper rifle to cryengine. The best part about croberts fidelity is that he's an ignorant moron who doesn't even understand how gravity works. The gently caress is the point of a 'realistic' space sim without proper Newtonian physics?
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Dementropy posted:I admit, when I first saw it, all I thought of was the scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark where the guy is trying to be all fancy with his sword and Indy just shoots him. as far as i know the story is a bit different. apparently harisson ford was ill that day, but they were planning to film a 1on1 fight. ford did not feel fit enough and was like “cant i just shoot him?“ and they kept that in the film.
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TheAgent posted:This is absolutely the best time to buy in. I'd recommend a starter pack (only $45) and then upgrading your ship to a Hornet for about $90 more. I don't know what all these people in here bitch about, Star Citizen is pretty much done at this point and has hundreds of hours of content. Millions of people are in and having fun, and if you want, there's a free-fly event going on where you can experience all the fun for yourself for free. are you ok? i have some bulleit here if it would help eXXon posted:The best part about croberts fidelity is that he's an ignorant moron who doesn't even understand how gravity works. The gently caress is the point of a 'realistic' space sim without proper Newtonian physics? "Realistic" in this case only means "exactly like all the Republican Space Fantasy/WW2 bullshit I consume."
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Dongattack posted:So is this still a catastrophe or is it starting to become a game now? Haven't read this thread or up on the game in like 2 years i think. Youtubers and streamers i follow have started to play it and the graphics look nice at least and the cat goon guy isn't making mock videos of it anymore. The most significant new feature of their what-have-we-done-all-year annual presentation was new weather effects. The weather effects were a demo and they aren't in the game and won't be released any time soon. The actual multicrew gameplay still doesn't exist.
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Can someone explain to me what Server Object Container Streaming means Is it pretty much "So you can put a box somewhere without the game spazzing out'
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echothreealpha posted:Can someone explain to me what Server Object Container Streaming means Google "Interest Management MMO". There's a paper from 2006 if you're interested or some tutorials that explain the basics. That's literally all this is.
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echothreealpha posted:Can someone explain to me what Server Object Container Streaming means No, it won't fix game physics. When SOCS comes out, the game server will use less resources by not having to tell every player on the server your crate fell through the map. Progress!
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Sarsapariller posted:The most significant new feature of their what-have-we-done-all-year annual presentation was new weather effects. The weather effects were a demo and they aren't in the game and won't be released any time soon. The actual multicrew gameplay still doesn't exist. Ah okay. Well, that all sounds pretty much exactly like what i heard 2-3 years ago then. Have you guys seen the people actually into this game ever question the insane pay2win aspect of it all or are they completely brainbroken at this point?
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SoftNum posted:Google "Interest Management MMO". There's a paper from 2006 if you're interested or some tutorials that explain the basics. Contingency posted:No, it won't fix game physics. When SOCS comes out, the game server will use less resources by not having to tell every player on the server your crate fell through the map. Progress! ooof.
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Dongattack posted:Ah okay. Well, that all sounds pretty much exactly like what i heard 2-3 years ago then. Have you guys seen the people actually into this game ever question the insane pay2win aspect of it all or are they completely brainbroken at this point? There are some that do, but the community quickly shouts them down, especially on the SC subreddit. Every criticism post seems to have to start with a huge disclaimer like "I LOVE STAR CITIZEN AND WANT IT TO SUCCEED, I'M NOT A CONCERN TROLL! PLEASE HEAR ME OUT!" and even then people will still call them a concern troll/FUD/goon. Most people there get pretty angry if you post anything other than screenshots, sycophantic praise, or dreams about what you'll do with your $$$$ JPGs. Most of the time if someone starts questioning, they just leave the community altogether, so you won't see the dissent there. Oddly, the official forums actually have a lot more actual criticism, possibly because the mods aren't as active as the reddit volunteers. You'll regularly see people who gave up hope a long time ago angrily posting there, whereas on the subreddit they've had been banned long ago. Check out the thread on the ship delays that got announced the day before Citizencon, people got MAD. Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Nov 26, 2019 |
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echothreealpha posted:Can someone explain to me what Server Object Container Streaming means Translation: basic game feature that the server needs, should have been done before selling a single DLC ship But the server also needs a million other things so its not like that alone is gonna make it an MMO
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Dongattack posted:Ah okay. Well, that all sounds pretty much exactly like what i heard 2-3 years ago then. Have you guys seen the people actually into this game ever question the insane pay2win aspect of it all or are they completely brainbroken at this point? They're slowly bleeding backers. People lose interest in the minuscule improvements and play other games for the most part. Lots of people who bought in at some point have stopped following it at all. Lots of those people are ITT even. The thing is, the people who are really into the game, who have sunk $1,000+, they've got such massive sunk cost fallacy going on they CANNOT question it. It HAS to work. Or they all look like morons. That's also why funding keeps going, those who are already in for over $1,000 dare not let the project fail! Look, you already spent $1,000. If you don't give them more, the project fails, and you get NOTHING for all your "investment". Alternatively, if you spend just like, I dunno, a bit more, lets say $1,500 total, now the project can make it across the line and finish! And suddenly it all pays off, and you're living in a virtual matrix where people have to love you even though you're insufferable. This is the cult mentality that keeps SC going. Its very toxic and unhealthy.
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Going through the recap thread, and I think Sarsapariller probably, has the most accurate take on why there wasn't any Squadron 42 trailers this Citizencon.quote:Sarsapariller posted: I guess that's all it is. Right now we are seeing what their team is capable of.
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echothreealpha posted:Going through the recap thread, and I think Sarsapariller probably, has the most accurate take on why there wasn't any Squadron 42 trailers this Citizencon. That whole section with the stealth mission and the trek through the snow is basically a stealth SQ42 setpiece, honestly, because it was all cobbled together demo poo poo that it will take them FOREVER to actually do in the PU. That said, the word on reddit is that SQ42 reveal stuff always happens on the holiday stream anyway, so no one minded its absence here. If it goes AWOL there too, oh man.
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Even if you buy into them waiting to say anything about SQ42 until the holidays it's still absolutely nuts they didn't even so much as mention it at their own convention. It's releasing next year... allegedly
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echothreealpha posted:Going through the recap thread, and I think Sarsapariller probably, has the most accurate take on why there wasn't any Squadron 42 trailers this Citizencon. God drat, I called it so far back that I completely forgot about said calling
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Zushio posted:I am always down for more Stimpire. I had a drink with the son of a bitch. It baffled him what tube to use.
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Popete posted:Even if you buy into them waiting to say anything about SQ42 until the holidays it's still absolutely nuts they didn't even so much as mention it at their own convention. Didn't say it made sense, just that that's what they're saying. Popete posted:It's releasing next year... No, it's supposed to hit BETA next year. There's no final version release window. But that begs the question whether CIG knows what a beta is, because it's supposed to be feature-complete.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:There are some that do, but the community quickly shouts them down, especially on the SC subreddit. Every criticism post seems to have to start with a huge disclaimer like "I LOVE STAR CITIZEN AND WANT IT TO SUCCEED, I'M NOT A CONCERN TROLL! PLEASE HEAR ME OUT!" and even then people will still call them a concern troll/FUD/goon. Most people there get pretty angry if you post anything other than screenshots, sycophantic praise, or dreams about what you'll do with your $$$$ JPGs. Most of the time if someone starts questioning, they just leave the community altogether, so you won't see the dissent there. The people running the official Spectrum forum are employees of Clown Imperium Now the Star Citizen subreddit? That is a classic case of the inmates running the asylum. All the crazies post there and they police themselves and it's all anonymous so they can be as lovely as they want. And they see their cause as righteous. Only the most faithful of the vanguard can hold the line against the encroaching fudsters and they will do it free of charge and will maintain order through fear and brutality. Any heretic not displaying the highest level of fealty to lord Roberts must be punished lest their creeping doubts worm their way in to the minds of the faithful.
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echothreealpha posted:Going through the recap thread, and I think Sarsapariller probably, has the most accurate take on why there wasn't any Squadron 42 trailers this Citizencon. Hey, that's not fair. They can also drone on for hours about how the economy might work if they can ever get their poo poo together, or about alien languages that nobody will ever use but cost them thousands to develop, or about all the work they are doing to get loving clouds to work. Is that not enough to get you hyped?
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Strangler 42 posted:Hey, that's not fair. They can also drone on for hours about how the economy might work if they can ever get their poo poo together, or about alien languages that nobody will ever use but cost them thousands to develop, or about all the work they are doing to get loving clouds to work. Is that not enough to get you hyped? What hyped me most was seeing that they opened the keynote with the same way they opened 2948's, by getting a cup of coffee. It was exciting looking at the probably marginally improved liquid simulation. Speaking of, Lumberyard was updated with PhysX 4.1 in September but I'm sure the cloth and liquid implementation had nothing to do with it.
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Every couple of years or so I'll see some trailers or whatever for this game and I think, hey those are some cool looking spaceships, I kinda dig the art direction, maybe this is a real game now? And then I'll look up a long play and there's still just so much janky poo poo, like even walking around and sitting in chairs and shooting guns, it all just looks fundamentally broken, and I'll poke my head into this thread and yep, same old poo poo that's been going on for years now. Welp see you in 2022, SC thread.
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Beet Wagon posted:I see the expo is going really well Needs the dashcon ball pit.
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if u havent read stimpire.txt in full get the gently caress out of this thread
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Inacio posted:I've seen it mentioned time and time again. What is it? Should I be asking? Glad you asked, print it after reading. In the last 500 years, the Fourth Stimpire has dominated four systems, which it has united into one starzone, Stimsis. The Fourth Stimpire has origins from the Ten Empire War in which 10 of the United Stimpires revolted against each rules. All empires except for the fourth swore freedom upon their citizens. There is no free speech in the Fourth Stimpire, and all self-controlled transportation has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a glass grinding machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with dangerous transplants. After the painful, 52 hour surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps painful resistors into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards. Sexual stimulation in any way within the grounds of the Fourth Stimpire is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their sexual organs will be subjected to a penectomy or if the offender was a female, they would then have a razor inserted into their ovaries. They would pump a blue solution into the womb until the stitchings burst. Offenders would also be forced to show their operated areas in public, and they would always harass and punch them to a pulp, against their will. Otherwise, offenders would be tazed with the worst type of electricity in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness. The pain would also triple every second, but no death would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all UEE forces must wear the upgraded suit to block this effect. However, enertainment is also questionable in UEE grounds. Sporting events end with the losing team being rounded into a grinder and shredded on live television, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands removed without anasthesia, flight races would end with the losers having their arms and legs removed, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves tweaking the muscles so they will not listen to brain commands, and then having a painful drug injected which also causes madness if the player is not sporting. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps. Snuff films are also broadcast, and actors are actually murdered just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into a macerator and having their execution written into the film. Any film that does not feature someone being murdered will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - vivisection. All executions are broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will be executed. All citizens must boo to the person being executed, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot pass out, but they will feel like it forever. Conquests by this Stimpire end in the planet being razed, and all the citizens being executed in the same way as their citizens are. The planet is then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from civil minds. People who are also killed are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed. Prisoners undergo 40,000 years of relentless and endless labor, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the eternator injection. All prisoners injected with eternators are placed into capsules and launched into far space, then the room is closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some prisoners are also subjected to the removal of blood, the lungs, the liver, the genitals, the skeleton, the muscles, the eyes, and even the injection of pressure. Prisoners sentenced to pressure chambers are locked in until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable. Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average. Restaurants also are ordered to serve civil meat, and anyone attending must give themself up to be cooked into a grotesque meal. They are cooked alive, undergoing extreme pain, and are then subjected to industrial grinders and blenders. The Stimpire orders at least 1 million citizens to be dispatched every day, as they are afraid the population may overthrow them. But only one planet is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching buildings, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Civil enforcers are on every planet, and they are engineered so that they are 40 times larger than the 300 quadrillion population. At least 7 billion die every 12 hours under this rule. Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything to loving the Stimpire with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed. The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the galactic space of this sickening empire.
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Popete posted:I know they had problems in the past with networking issues, especially on the popular hub systems with hundreds of players. Videos of older battles with hundreds of player are basically a slide show. One of the major things they did to improve performance was to offload everything that was specific to the character but not relevant to the ship/situation to a different server- Eve used to bring the entire character onto a specific star system's node, personal inventory tracking, character sheet, missions and faction relations and all, but they decoupled that from the system simulation and put it on its own server. Improved performance pretty good. But it's not FIDELITOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS
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Zzr posted:stimpire.txt So beautiful. Really inspiring that the 'verse can create such engaging lore.
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Warhawk109 posted:How long was that spaceman out in -120 C? With just a jacket, no gloves, no balaclava. I don’t think these people have ever been out in legit cold weather before. The LA area isn't exactly known for being cold. I don't think Austin is, either. The Manchester area has comparatively mild climate for northern Europe and Frankfurt doesn't seem to be that cold. I don't know where Chris has lived before, but maybe he's almost as clueless about cold climate as he is about space  Warhawk109 posted:I think he’d be well past the point of shivering, and into severe frostbite territory. Somewhere between -20 C and -30 C is where they tend to cancel/delay professional ski competition events and such, if I recall correctly.
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TheAgent posted:This is absolutely the best time to buy in. I'd recommend a starter pack (only $45) and then upgrading your ship to a Hornet for about $90 more. I don't know what all these people in here bitch about, Star Citizen is pretty much done at this point and has hundreds of hours of content. Millions of people are in and having fun, and if you want, there's a free-fly event going on where you can experience all the fun for yourself for free. ^^^ This. Imagine a game where every crater on every moon has more content than Skyrim. Now imagine a universe of such moons. Add planets, wormholes, spaceworms, myriad sentient alien races each with their own languages, all of this tied together with a Quantum economic simulator. Now stop imagining, and start spending. Star Citizen.
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Dongattack posted:Ah okay. Well, that all sounds pretty much exactly like what i heard 2-3 years ago then. Have you guys seen the people actually into this game ever question the insane pay2win aspect of it all or are they completely brainbroken at this point? “I’m willing to put $20000 into this game! I’m ready to SPEND IT ALL!!!” A direct quote from their most popular streamer of 2019.
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Sarsapariller posted:Nobody has ever, ever cared about SQ42 except as a victory lap to take when things are going well. Nobody backed for it, nobody's particularly interested in playing it. It's a curio that Chris keeps dragging back out and everyone else has learned to tolerate. Now, of course, it is also the lead weight around the neck of a drowning company, but whaddayagonnado IIRC wasn't it one of the major things in the original pitch though? Like the video centered around it.
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UnknownTarget posted:IIRC wasn't it one of the major things in the original pitch though? Like the video centered around it. As with most Crobberts pitches it was intentionally vague, but you could make the case that it was/wasn't depending on what you wanted to see. The pitch posted:Star Citizen brings the visceral action of piloting interstellar craft through combat and exploration to a new generation of gamers at a level of fidelity never before seen. At its core Star Citizen is a destination, not a one-off story. It's a complete universe where any number of adventures can take place, allowing players to decide their own game experience. Pick up jobs as a smuggler, pirate, merchant, bounty hunter, or enlist as a pilot, protecting the borders from outside threats. Chris Roberts has always wanted to create one cohesive universe that encompasses everything that made Wing Commander and Privateer / Freelancer special. A huge sandbox with a complex and deep lore allowing players to explore or play in whatever capacity they wish. That universe is Star Citizen. They violated every single one of those bullet points, even the one about subscriptions. I mean drat.
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