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Neddy Seagoon posted:PS4's a better go; Far more games and (if streamed gaming is THAT important) PSNow lets you download titles if they're PS4-compatible. Sony already learned the hard way not everyone has fibre internet. xbox online services and game pass pricing is far better and also gives you games to play locally on your pc without it being streamed, also the 360 games play locally instead of streamed like the ps4
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$1 for game pass PC is a steal. Also there’s a decent chance MS will forget to increase the price eventually.
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hostile apostle posted:I'm literally doing this today - only on my parents TV in 4K (upscaled I'll have to take to the obvious conclusion presented here and go with astroturfing.
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Lambert posted:Tons of things change, but Microsoft retains a sizable compatibility layer. For 32 bit applications, for example, Microsoft has an x86 emulator called WOW64 that transparently handles executing them.
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well why not posted:$1 for game pass PC is a steal. Also there’s a decent chance MS will forget to increase the price eventually. Where's it a bike besides the trial?
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Nov 28, 2019 03:34
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Question: If Stadia allowed you to install games locally and stream any game you owned on whatever device while away from your PC would that change the equation for any one in the thread? Let's assume they had a decent selection in their store and not what's there now. I would be a lot more interested in it if this was the case. I'm deep in the Google ecosystem so give me Steam but Google with streaming and I'm in.
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Anything that sounds remotely like a good idea they won't do. Alot of Google's teams sound like they're braindead at the top.
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D-Pad posted:Question: I mean at that point it's basically the same as ps4 remote play or geforce now. But how would pricing even work in this scenario? Would you have to pay a monthly fee, buy the game and run it off your own hardware to whatever device you were on? Would you only need the monthly fee if you streamed from their hardware?
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:I mean at that point it's basically the same as ps4 remote play or geforce now. If they did it right it would be free like Steam and the subscription would get you streaming, better deals on store games, and a few free games a month like the consoles.
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It would be a fundamentally different product, not the least of all because their streaming setup would mean either only 22 games can be streamed at launch on their store front or they dont develop using a Linux base.
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They should make it Netfix-style. Pay a massive fee to license games from studios and make every game available and free to all subscribers. It’d be a huge amount of money but it’d also be least painful.
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Vegetable posted:They should make it Netfix-style. Pay a massive fee to license games from studios and make every game available and free to all subscribers. It’d be a huge amount of money but it’d also be least painful. Lol, no. Being offered that much money by Google would just make the publishers see blood in the water and tack on their own lovely streamed services.
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Combat Pretzel posted:It's not an emulator. It's as much of the 32bit userland, that you'd find in 32bit Windows, needed to run a 32bit application. There's a small abstraction layer that sits between this and the kernel to translate the syscalls. The CPU gets switched to 32bit mode while running that stuff. True on x64. But this depends on the platform, on ARM, it's full-blown emulation.
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Vegetable posted:They should make it Netfix-style. Pay a massive fee to license games from studios and make every game available and free to all subscribers. It’d be a huge amount of money but it’d also be least painful. This is Microsofts offering, its also one that actually makes sense
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Lol, no. Being offered that much money by Google would just make the publishers see blood in the water and tack on their own lovely streamed services. That would happen with Google not offering them money but doing semi decently anyway.
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Something that never happened on the PSN.
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D-Pad posted:Question: That would be literally Steam. Because that's what Steam does, right now. Except they don't charge a subscription for it, or require you to get special hardware.
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Nov 28, 2019 13:31
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If it didn't use your own upstream capacity or hardware for the streaming, then it would be Steam But Better. Steam Remote Play has turned out to be really lacking in usability every time I've tried it, even when I'm using it within my own home network. I wouldn't even want to consider using it from anywhere else.
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Nov 28, 2019 13:33
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Yeah in my experience I’ve had much better results with ps4 remote play than steam streaming.
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It only barely even does better than streaming over Teamviewer or VNC for me. Considering that those aren't even meant for streaming videos or games but rather for remote-controlling desktop workstations, that's a pretty sad statement.
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I think Steam Streaming works on pretty much anything, it's like software rendering or some such, but that means it's rough. Nvidia's Gamestream works a ton better, but you need a gaming-tier Nvidia GPU of some kind (I think you can go as far back as a 660, if memory serves).
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On server or client? If I just need it on one side then I really have to try that out, because I've got a 1070 Ti in my desktop PC and that certainly ought to be plenty.
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I have 350mbps down and only 10mbps up which is the killer for doing my own streaming. Realistically in non peak times I'm able to hit more like 15mbps up but I called and my ISP cannot sell me more upstream unless I go up to gigabit, which I have no need for and is quite expensive. I already pay an absolutely ridiculous amount for internet  That's obviously the most appealing model to me as I've already invested in powerful hardware at home and expensive internet and the games themselves.
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Cardiovorax posted:On server or client? If I just need it on one side then I really have to try that out, because I've got a 1070 Ti in my desktop PC and that certainly ought to be plenty. Not sure tbh. Definitely server-side, not sure about client. There's free unofficial software called "Moonlight" that leverages it for greater flexibility.
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univbee posted:Not sure tbh. Definitely server-side, not sure about client. There's free unofficial software called "Moonlight" that leverages it for greater flexibility.
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charity rereg posted:I have 350mbps down and only 10mbps up which is the killer for doing my own streaming. Realistically in non peak times I'm able to hit more like 15mbps up but I called and my ISP cannot sell me more upstream unless I go up to gigabit, which I have no need for and is quite expensive. I already pay an absolutely ridiculous amount for internet The increase costs so much because 15mbps is probably as much as they can offer on cable. Fiber is equal up and down and likely what the gigabit is. You are paying for the better latency and reliability. I'm not trying to convince you, it's probably double the cost. But maybe it's now a good value.
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Tei posted:The winner of the stream wars will be Amazon, because they will end selling their server hosting services to others The natural conclusion to this is Amazon needs to join the cloud gaming wars. Hell, build it into Twitch and make that a behemoth of a game streaming platform. The cloud wars will be amazing.
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univbee posted:Not sure tbh. Definitely server-side, not sure about client. There's free unofficial software called "Moonlight" that leverages it for greater flexibility. Moonlighting on the Vita lag was still an issue, but image quality was fantastic.
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Tei posted:The winner of the stream wars will be Amazon, because they will end selling their server hosting services to others Both Microsoft and Google are major cloud providers.
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D-Pad posted:Question: No, the whole point is that you don't need your own hardware...
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Stadia needs to be as expensive as possible due to all the value it provides. The higher the price the more value you'll get.
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DatonKallandor posted:That would be literally Steam. Because that's what Steam does, right now. Except they don't charge a subscription for it, or require you to get special hardware. Are you sure? I didn't know I could stream steam games to a different location / network than your Pc. Oh and you better not want to use your computer that the game is installed on for anything because the game will be running and in focus. Don't you need something capable of running the steam streaming application like a steam box or rasPi? I'm not trying to "hostile it" here but how is steam streaming the same thing as stream anywhere and also have a local copy?
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tater_salad posted:Don't you need something capable of running the steam streaming application like a steam box or rasPi?
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tater_salad posted:Are you sure? Oh sorry I misunderstood then, I thought you wanted just a local copy being streamed anywhere (Steam can do that). If you want both a virtual machine in the "cloud" as well as an optional local copy, that's PSNow I think.
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shadow puppet of a posted:Hello from REGION reddit. don't go there, it's a shithole posted:So I tried Destiny 2 on Stadia... What the heck is this magic?! https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/e2w1sr/so_i_tried_destiny_2_on_stadia_what_the_heck_is/
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