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Sudden Loud Noise posted:But for real, how insane is it that Stadia doesn't have Fortnite? WTF are you doing Google?  For some reason people try to explain this by saying Google would be losing money on the hosting, but that's a factor for literally every F2P game on every platform. They all make money by taking a cut of the ingame currency sold. A much worse monetary prospect is someone who gets the Stadia Basic, buys a single game, and plays it forever without a subscription. Which is what Google is already offering. How is THAT sustainable?
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Welcome to Stadia, where the business plan's made up and the launch doesn't matter!
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Stadia's launch lineup is actually pretty impressively bad, and goes to show either how poorly planned the launch was or how rushed it was. RDR2 looks nice on paper but it's a 1 year old game that was well received critically but most people seemed pretty cool on it after playing it a bit. Plus they badly under-delivered on their whole 4k promise. The next biggest title is what? Destiny 2? NBA2k20? They couldn't get Borderlands 3 or Doom 2016 ready for launch and at this rate don't seem like they'll be available this year even.Rotten Red Rod posted:
There is still plenty of time to cut the free service entirely or attach massive caveats to it.
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The absence of DOOM2016 is extremely telling. It should have been the easiest thing to have ready and would have been a great example of the service. It's really weird that it's basically nowhere to be found.
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"Hey parents, you know that game that your kid is demanding a $2000 computer, $400 playstation, and $1000 phone to play? Spend $130 on a streaming stick and save $3200." Nah, a terrible idea.
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American McGay posted:The absence of DOOM2016 is extremely telling. It should have been the easiest thing to have ready and would have been a great example of the service. It's really weird that it's basically nowhere to be found. It already runs Vulkan too. Anyway I took a look at the Stadia subreddit just now and it's an interesting struggle in reconciling the desperate need to defend the brand with the fact that the product itself sucks poo poo.
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American McGay posted:The absence of DOOM2016 is extremely telling. It should have been the easiest thing to have ready and would have been a great example of the service. It's really weird that it's basically nowhere to be found. they thought they were going to launch with doom eternal, they were showing it at stadia preview events and eternal was originally supposed to launch just a few days after stadia did to be fair it's not google's fault that id delayed the game to march of next year at the last minute repiv fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:"Hey parents, you know that game that your kid is demanding a $2000 computer, $400 playstation, and $1000 phone to play? Spend $130 on a streaming stick and save $3200." Ahahahahahahaha a $2000 computer to play Fortnite? Nice try troll.
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leftist heap posted:There is still plenty of time to cut the free service entirely or attach massive caveats to it. This entire launch is honestly baffling, it feels like they released it just to say they did, not to make it succeed. Stadia is out now - and you can't have it! You can on [unspecified date] next year, probably when everyone has stopped caring about it! repiv posted:they were showing doom eternal at stadia preview events, and doom eternal was supposed to ship within days of stadia, but then it got delayed to march of next year and derailed the plan Doom 2016 isn't Doom Eternal though...?
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Doom 2016 isn't Doom Eternal though...? i'm saying google thought they were launching with doom eternal so porting 2016 over would have been a lower priority eternal was delayed at the absolute last minute and probably too late for google to come up with a contingency plan
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There are 7 loving Tomb Raider games on this thing. I think they could have launched with Doom Eternal as well as Doom 2016.
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Rad Valtar posted:Ahahahahahahaha a $2000 computer to play Fortnite? Nice try troll. If they don't buy Ninja's NZXT setup there's no possible way they can win!
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American McGay posted:There are 7 loving Tomb Raider games on this thing. I think they could have launched with Doom Eternal as well as Doom 2016. For some reason square enix is giving tomb raider away for (mostly)free to whoever asks for their subscription service, would explain all the tomb raider games on stadia
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:But for real, how insane is it that Stadia doesn't have Fortnite? WTF are you doing Google? Epic probably views Stadia as a competing storefront rather than a console, in which case, never gonna happen.
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DalaranJ posted:Epic probably views Stadia as a competing storefront rather than a console, in which case, never gonna happen. well, it is a competing storefront that you buy games just to say you have them ,as playing them is kinda poo poo on the service itself
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Rotten Red Rod posted:
I really don't think "plays a single game 8 hours a day forever" is a serious concern outside of digital hamster wheels like Destiny 2. If someone pays $120 for Assassin's Creed: Odyssey Ultimate Edition and plays like I did, they'll have effectively paid about 90 cents per hour of play time. That seems sustainable. leftist heap posted:Stadia's launch lineup is actually pretty impressively bad, and goes to show either how poorly planned the launch was or how rushed it was. RDR2 looks nice on paper but it's a 1 year old game that was well received critically but most people seemed pretty cool on it after playing it a bit. Plus they badly under-delivered on their whole 4k promise.  at all, it's Stadia (or Playstation Now) or bust.DalaranJ posted:Epic probably views Stadia as a competing storefront rather than a console, in which case, never gonna happen. Gobbeldygook fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:- The input lag is about +4 frames at its absolute best and is inconsistent. It's super noticeable and super bad. Are you connected over WiFi or ethernet? I'm thinking this kind of service will only be viable for long play sessions over a wired connection. I've played on WiFi for an hour or so and it wasn't too bad but was noticeable.
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:"Hey parents, you know that game that your kid is demanding a $2000 computer, $400 playstation, and $1000 phone to play? Spend $130 on a streaming stick and save $3200." How many Tomb Raider games do I get for $3200?
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:"Hey parents, you know that game that your kid is demanding a $2000 computer, $400 playstation, and $1000 phone to play? Spend $130 on a streaming stick and save $3200." This is child abuse.
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more gaming ambrosia from /r/stadia. Its time to battle with reality as this week we praise Stadia;s 4k/60 performance and exalt its flopped sales and pretend that google is a nurturing product-incubator with long term vision.quote:Google, nobody knows how Stadia is performing $$-wise better than you... but if things are bleak, PLEASE stick this out because you OWN this market if you allow Stadia to survive the early years. quote:Seeing as only 15K people have played free destiny google prolly isn’t very happy with sales. quote:I just can’t understand this weird idea that google is going to axe a technology that is so obviously revolutionary. Just wait for the stadia orders to roll in once the PS5 is released with a $700 price tag. quote:The differences between Stadia and local hardware are now small enough that I'd prefer not to bother with the local hardware anymore. I would assume this is the case for many others as well. All this delusion because someone again mistook Forbes.com as anything other than a blog. shadow puppet of a fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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Gobbeldygook posted:They have exactly one free multiplayer game, Destiny 2, and it barely has enough players to function. Adding more would splinter their already tiny userbase, probably to the point that none of the games could function. Well, no, not really, you have to pay for their version with all the expansions. As far as I know you can't play Destiny 2 on Stadia if you don't buy it.
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Forbes reviewer, who skewered Stadia on release, is a believer now: https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2019/12/04/third-times-the-charm-how-google-and-i-finally-fixed-stadia-on-chromecast/#235d0aa154fe quote:Hardwiring Chromecast straight into the extender seems to have bypassed whatever wireless issues were happening. I am getting truly excellent performance now from Stadia, as I would say 98% of the tech issues I was seeing previously are gone. The resolution is better, and definitely 4K. Controls seem snappier. I am experiencing almost no stutters at all. I’m not convinced I’m getting a full 60 fps all the time, but it’s certainly better than it was. I was playing Destiny 2 and Assassin’s Creed Odyssey to test yesterday, and I genuinely forgot I was using Stadia some of the time, the first time this has happened. For the most part, it felt like I was playing on any other console. If anyone wants to genuinely try out Stadia - PM me and I'll send you a buddy pass. EDIT: gone hostile apostle fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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Glimm posted:Are you connected over WiFi or ethernet? I'm thinking this kind of service will only be viable for long play sessions over a wired connection. This is wired on a 300/30 connection.
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hostile apostle posted:Forbes reviewer, who skewered Stadia on release, is a believer now: quote:I am paying for 500 Mbps internet This is the key factor of why it worked for him. It's not surprising that hardwiring it right into a fibre internet connection made it work. quote:they told me my Chromecast was only getting ~15-20 Mbps. edit: Canine Blues Arooo posted:This is wired on a 300/30 connection. Just out of curiosity, did you get Fibre to the Premises/Home, or Fibre to the Node? Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Dec 5, 2019 |
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hostile apostle posted:Forbes reviewer, who skewered Stadia on release, is a believer now: Hahaha yea thats what I got from the article too.... huge believer here: My long national nightmare is over, I finally fixed Google Stadia at my house. Mostly. If you’ve been following my coverage of Stadia, Google’s console-free streaming video game service, you’ll know that I was on the end of the spectrum of reviewers at launch that had some pretty massive technical problems with it. My experience, whether playing Stadia at home on my PC browser or my TV through Chromecast was full of stutters, hitches and all-around terrible performance. I have been talking to various Google team members for a few weeks now... ...I’m not convinced I’m getting a full 60 fps all the time... Not everyone has A) the internet speeds I have or B) the ability to wire a Chromecast directly. I was lucky I had a direct line of communication with some of the highest-up folks working on Stadia to help me fix this over the course of the last few weeks, yet most people won’t have access to that. All I can tell you is what worked for me, though to fully “solve” my problem on other devices in my house, I still may need to mess around with changing a bunch of settings on my ORBI system. I can’t hardwire everything. The tech side really has little to do with the model side, and in most circumstances, I’m still going to be picking PC or Xbox or PS4 to play my games rather than Stadia in its current form. I remain perplexed about the target market for Stadia, which appears to be people who are tech savvy enough to have rock solid internet and an interest in $60 triple A games, yet do not own a console. That seems…odd. I only imagine it will get better in time and yes, I now can see a future where game streaming, like video streaming, is the norm. Whether it will be Stadia leading us there, I don’t know,
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Just out of curiosity, did you get Fibre to the Premises/Home, or Fibre to the Node? This is just Cox Cable. They market it as such, so I assume it Copper to the CMTS and then Fiber out.
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:"Hey parents, you know that game that your kid is demanding a $2000 computer, $400 playstation, and $1000 phone to play? Spend $130 on a streaming stick and save $3200 to be able to spend a lot more on internet bills"
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Or just buy a fuckin Switch because if you have a kid demanding a gaming system they probably want it for Fortnite and Pokemon, and as a bonus you can kick them off the TV and they can keep playing
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univbee posted:At least for me, Stadia in terms of technology has been OK, although not really a significant improvement over PSNow and GeForce Now. I don't think there are any aspects of getting a console that was too problematic for me except that it seems like a waste of money? I will explain. I basically only have about 1 or 2 days a month free to play games (freelance writer/animator that is preparing 3 more pitches to go at Frederator Studios [only 4 rejections so far!]). I saw that NBA 2k20 is on Stadia and thought, "I would like to play that when Stadia goes full tilt" I loved 2k15 back in the day (probably the last time I played video games regularly other than checking out Stardew Valley). I'd rather not buy a console just to dick around on NBA2k20, but the thought of paying for the game and popping in whenever I wanted to play seemed like a nice feature. That might be the only game I play for months. I no longer have a computer that can handle modern graphics so I thought this sounded ideal for me. My cpu is so old that it doesn't support Geforce Now, but it's just fine for 2d animation and writing. I feel like I just missed a joke opportunity. My cpu is so old that... Umm, it's going balder faster than I am? I got nothing here. I guess I'll check back in when Stadia isn't just for founders and see how the masses react.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Well, no, not really, you have to pay for their version with all the expansions. As far as I know you can't play Destiny 2 on Stadia if you don't buy it. Destiny 2 is free on Stadia, it is not one of the store games you have to buy.
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D-Pad posted:Destiny 2 is free on Stadia, it is not one of the store games you have to buy. It comes "free" when you get the subscription/founders pack, yes, but will people with Stadia basic, whenever that is coming, be able to play it without paying anything?
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limaCAT posted:"Hey parents, you know that game that your kid is demanding a $2000 computer, $400 playstation, and $1000 phone to play? Spend $130 on a streaming stick and save $3200 to be able to spend a lot more on internet bills" "And then buy the computer and phone anyway because what the gently caress kind of parent doesn't get a computer for their kids to do their homework on, and doesn't have a phone for everyone in the family in 2019?"
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biznatchio posted:"And then buy the computer and phone anyway because what the gently caress kind of parent doesn't get a computer for their kids to do their homework on, and doesn't have a phone for everyone in the family in 2019?" But of course the phone, but we are talking about the incredible GOOGLE PIXEL PHONE line, will also run Stadia. Checkmate, atheists!
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An absolute cutting edge gaming PC that will last you for probably the next decade costs maybe 800 dollars max
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Huh interesting that's almost the cost of the Google Pixel, funny how that works out
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hostile apostle posted:Forbes reviewer, who skewered Stadia on release, is a believer now: You do know that forbes.com is a blog, right? Right? This is like saying "Livejournal reviewer is a believer now." At least the word "believer" does imply that you're starting to understand that you're in a cult now.
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CJacobs posted:An absolute cutting edge gaming PC that will last you for probably the next decade costs maybe 800 dollars max The Rastastadian man (stadiafarian man?) is going to barge into your house, take your cutting edge PC, lift it over its head and throw it down the floor, then he will introduce you to the joys of STADIA, the service where you can buy cloud only versions of the games you already have in your steam library.
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limaCAT posted:The Rastastadian man (stadiafarian man?) is going to barge into your house, take your cutting edge PC, lift it over its head and throw it down the floor, then he will introduce you to the joys of STADIA, the service where you can buy cloud only versions of the games you already have in your steam library. He can pry my gaming PC from my cold dead shelf where I keep it because the case is heavy and full of fans for good airflow
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