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So this one time I was escorting a party of adventurers through a mountain on an important quest and I had to kill a crazyass fire demon while falling into hell itself. Oh wait poo poo I thought you said Glamdring stories. Nevermind OP.
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I got a friend who works at a casino and I learned that the casino offers lines of credit? Like you can go in, take a loan, and bet with that? How well does that work for the casinos if the folks loaning money are definitely not the kind of guys you'd expect to make good on a loan? Also there was a minimum loan of 5k which means that after a bad day, not only are you penniless, but also in debt by at least 5k. Anyone have experience with that, either perspective?
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Dec 11, 2019 09:22
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I imagine they run a credit check
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Dec 11, 2019 10:24
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They're called markers, and they're not really a good idea. You're only going to get those at big casinos.
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Dec 11, 2019 10:26
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One time I went to Wendover, Nevada and it was the most depressing place I've ever seen. Most of the patrons I encountered looked strung out, desperate, and ragged. Vegas and Atlantic City have problem gamblers too, but also lots of regular tourists. Wendover just straight up looks like a place where people go to die. Take the vibes you get from a payday loan office or the pawn shop and multiply that x10 and add a bunch of senior citizens who look barely conscious. The dealers were very pleasant and normal, which was impressive considering they work inside a David Lynch movie.
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Dec 11, 2019 11:13
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buglord posted:I got a friend who works at a casino and I learned that the casino offers lines of credit? Like you can go in, take a loan, and bet with that? How well does that work for the casinos if the folks loaning money are definitely not the kind of guys you'd expect to make good on a loan? Also there was a minimum loan of 5k which means that after a bad day, not only are you penniless, but also in debt by at least 5k. Anyone have experience with that, either perspective? I mean... Considering it's costing them almost nothing to finance a 5k loan for gambling I imagine they make out like bandits which is why they offer these completely predatory loans in the first place
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MamatKunem posted:My uncle and his wife moved to Vegas in 2002, bought a 3 bedroom house with a pool for 160k. Uncle got a job as a dealer and on the weekends they would go to casinos and gamble, thus gaining a gambling addiction. He would go to work, then they would go gamble and eventually they popped 3 kids. 3 and a half years my uncle got fired and no other casino in Vegas would hire him. Eventually they couldn't make payments on the house so it got repoed. They've been living in a 2 bedroom apartment in a bad area since then. They still go gambling and he still works in a casino (not in Nevada). Some weekends he'll get off work at 9 am, pick up his wife and drive to Vegas for the weekend. When I worked at the Casino I was surprised at how many of my co-workers loved to gamble. The licence we got that allowed us to work at the Casino prevented us from gambling at any casino in our state, (there was only one), but still so many casino workers would take overnight trips up to Sydney, or across to Adelaide just to gamble at the Casino. And this is not even talking about the ones whose idea of a fun night was to throw a couple of hundred into the pokies. Myself, on my days off I wanted to get as far away from a casino as possible.
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Dec 11, 2019 13:09
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gleebster posted:Do your bosses get bent out of shape if someone uses the word "gambling"? When Senator Miller and his buddies were saving the horse racing business here in Maryland, I noticed those in favor of casinos avoided it like blasphemy. Not at all. There's very little sugar coating of the business we're in. The only kool-aid we're served is that we promote "responsible gaming" and offer help lines on our products. Objectively true, but functionally rather useless.
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Dec 11, 2019 13:15
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free hubcaps posted:lol ur extended relatives are assholes who wanted to gamble, you absolutely can go in most parts of Foxwoods as a kid, just not on the gambling floor This was the late 90s mind you, it's probably different now but there really wasn't anything a kid to do back then, so it was either make the 2 hour trip back immediately or wait in the car so I waited in the car, they still feel bad about it 20 years later. mikemil828 fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Dec 11, 2019 |
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Dec 11, 2019 14:33
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BrigadierSensible posted:When I worked at the Casino I was surprised at how many of my co-workers loved to gamble. The licence we got that allowed us to work at the Casino prevented us from gambling at any casino in our state, (there was only one), but still so many casino workers would take overnight trips up to Sydney, or across to Adelaide just to gamble at the Casino. And this is not even talking about the ones whose idea of a fun night was to throw a couple of hundred into the pokies. Hello Star Casino former employee, I am Queensland man. You casino was a cespool but also very cool to look at.
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Dec 11, 2019 14:35
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Gridlocked posted:Hello Star Casino former employee, I am Queensland man. You casino was a cespool but also very cool to look at. Nup. Ex Crown Casino employee. (Dealer, 3 major games and all the minors except for 2up). "My" casino was also a cesspool, but the taxes from it helped build the aquarium and big shed just across the road from it. But a fine hello to you too good sir/madam.
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Dec 11, 2019 14:39
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I Brake For MILFs posted:Tips for poker players that are new to live games from a dealer perspective. How often do you get people at the table that are clearly online players trying their hand at a live game? I have a couple local casino trips planned for this month and I am a bit nervous about it but at the same time I want to rip the bandaid off so to speak because playing with real people sounds a lot more fun (Also in NJ you are restricted to playing online with other people in-state and I keep seeing the same people over and over) Do dealers generally state who is blind/BB? Are they in charge of moving the button? Whenever I play board games with friends I'm always the most aloof in all of the small housekeeping poo poo and I'm worried about how well I'll keep track of that stuff when software isn't doing it for me. Are you absolutely sure you don't want to hear about the time I called EaglesFanEarl_52's $2 raise but then he ended up having four aces?
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Dec 11, 2019 15:03
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Dealer takes care of all that. If you have questions, ask the dealer. Also, it’s hard to miss where the action is.
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Dec 11, 2019 16:02
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N. Senada posted:Also, it’s hard to miss where the action is. Sure, 99% of the time. But if I'm sitting there through so many hands there will inevitably be times where I stare off into space, check my phone for something, order a beer. That's what I'm worried about (see also: every time I play 7 Wonders). But I hear you.
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Dec 11, 2019 16:16
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Many very, very drunk and stupid people manage to play live poker. I'm sure you can figure it out.
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Dec 11, 2019 16:49
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If the dealer is looking at you it’s most likely your turn. Just watch the dealer he will get your attention. So will the “table captains”, which is just another name for players at the table who want to keep the action moving. They are usually impatient and worried about the hands per hour they receive. They can be dicks but also keep the action going so I don’t mind them.
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Dec 11, 2019 16:53
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kazr posted:I mean... Considering it's costing them almost nothing to finance a 5k loan for gambling I imagine they make out like bandits which is why they offer these completely predatory loans in the first place this is the thing to note. from the casino's perspective these people are going to go right onto the floor to give that currency straight back so someone defaulting on a loan is not something that they care about in an immediate sense. longer term, they're very likely to get at least some of that money back even if they loan to the worst risk on the planet and the default with only something like 10% of the loan repaid because they are protected by the same laws that make scuzzball unsecured lenders like payday loans profitable. even if the lending business technically 'loses' money the casino is still up because they are effectively able to capture the principle of the loan immediately at the slots and tables. you could, ostensibly, get a loan at a casino and then leave the casino to go drink it all away in an unrelated bar but the reality of the situation of course is that if someone is apt to do that they're just going to go the mypaydayloan.com joint in the dingy strip mall near their house, not the flashy casino that's a 30 minute drive away. i've seen these at a few larger casinos and they have always chilled me to the bone.
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Dec 11, 2019 19:32
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Whats the benefits like? job benefits are fairly standard, health insurance, dental, etc. being paid to essentially watch sports and track numbers/wagers and handle wagers/accounts from high limit clientele is also fun. i've gotten to take care of a lot of ufc people due to my location, most are fine, there are a couple of assholes though but you'll get that in any field
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Dec 11, 2019 19:35
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Earth Table posted:How often do you get people at the table that are clearly online players trying their hand at a live game? I have a couple local casino trips planned for this month and I am a bit nervous about it but at the same time I want to rip the bandaid off so to speak because playing with real people sounds a lot more fun (Also in NJ you are restricted to playing online with other people in-state and I keep seeing the same people over and over) The dealer will take care of all the maintenance bullshit. Just relax and have a good time. You will stand out like a sore thumb if it's your first time playing live, but if you keep taking pots who gives a poo poo. I actually was playing poker and was outside smoking and was told the exact same story about quad aces, I literally walked away before the dude could finish. So, eaglesfanearl_52 can gently caress off.
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Dec 11, 2019 19:48
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The first time I went to a casino was just after I turned 18. This was South Africa, where I grew up. I got the number on roulette four times in a row: 7, 7, 14, 7. I put down R10 and left with about R1400. That was a lot of money for 18-year old me. Despite that I haven’t been in a casino for years as they are profoundly depressing, and the house always wins.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:07
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therattle posted:The first time I went to a casino was just after I turned 18. This was South Africa, where I grew up. I got the number on roulette four times in a row: 7, 7, 14, 7. I put down R10 and left with about R1400. That was a lot of money for 18-year old me. Despite that I haven’t been in a casino for years as they are profoundly depressing, and the house always wins. Someone smarter than me calculate the odds of that happening. Also weird that it landed on 7 three times in four spins. Typing this out reminds me of something I once read somewhere, that the dealer (idk if it's called a dealer in roulette) can pretty much choose where the ball will land, by timing when he throws it in the wheel. Is that correct?
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Dec 11, 2019 20:11
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I’ve been loving the bizarre stories (at least when they don’t involve people soiling themselves instead of getting up to go to the bathroom  ), please keep them up for someone who’s never been to a casino because the nearest one is something like an hour away.
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Dec 11, 2019 20:40
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There’s another one nearby that I haven’t gone to in a while, and probably won’t ever return to, because people smoke indoors and the overpowering smell of cigarette smoke is enough to make my stomach hurt. It’s been a long time so idk if they changed that. Buffet wasn’t all that great either, but it didn’t matter because the cig smell destroyed my appetite anyway. 
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Dec 11, 2019 20:46
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The casino in my city is allowed to only have slots. Also no alcohol I think (went twice and every tray being carried by a server had iced tea or water). Got my $10 free voucher, won $47 on some stupid slot game with mummies, and left. Never felt like going back and none of my friends go either. If they had BJ/Texas Holdem, I'd prob go on the weekends.
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Dec 11, 2019 21:09
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SubnormalityStairs posted:Not at all. There's very little sugar coating of the business we're in. The only kool-aid we're served is that we promote "responsible gaming" and offer help lines on our products. Objectively true, but functionally rather useless. Oh, the difference between casinos and bars. When I worked for a company that did digital slots, we would never ever call it a slot machine. It was always a "skill game". Technically they were different, as they paid out in gas cards, but the euphemism always made me laugh. No one is fooled, but everyone uses it.
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Dec 11, 2019 21:11
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I have all types of gambling stories you name it I have most likely gambled on it. I can regurgitate a few from my older threads I just have lovely memory due to a lot of years of hard partying so I might forget a few details. Most of my crazier stories are from a hustling pool but now I don't play as much and mostly gamble with a bookie and play poker. I do play a weekly mahjong game late on the weekends after they close and that's more fun than anything I gamble on. I play in a normal 5-10 game at the local dog track around here and it's usually filled with white rich old dudes with to much money or your typical degenerates betting on dogs and playing poker. The game I play usually doesn't get started until around midnight and will go until we are finished and because most of the players are regulars we get a lot of leeway at the room. A few weeks ago I showed up to the room a little early and while I was waiting for the game to start up I sat down at a 2-5 NL game. Within the first few rounds I can usually peg the type of players I am playing with, I know a lot of them so you get used to their style but when I see a new guy my eyes light up. I see a young kid who has the wonder and excitement of his first casino trip. I sit down and say hi to the regulars and notice this kid has about 1500 in front of him which means he has had a decent night. I immediately start chatting him up asking him how his night is going he responds back with a very cheerful story of how it's his 21st birthday and it's the first time he has ever played poker at a brick and mortar. He is an online player and now it all makes sense why he is acting the way he is. It's his first time sitting at a live table and he is just overcome with emotion. I notice right away he is bullying the table making outlandish raises from any position, he raises $200 into a $25 pot and things like that. I keep chatting with him and stay friendly with him until I get pocket queens. I only have $500 in front of me and he raises it to $150 I think about it for less than 2 seconds and push all in. As he is contemplating I get the sense he has no clue what to do I chuckle and say "can't find the fold button"? His friendly demeanor is now serious and I start to realize not a single person at the table has challenged this kid. This is his first big decision and it's not really for all that much either. He folds JJ face up and says he thinks he is beat. He asks me what I have and I tell him I didn't look I knew I could get you to fold from one big bet thinking he will figure out I am full of poo poo and we will go back to being friendly. He shuts down completely and gets the dead serious stare like now he means business. He stops talking to me and starts tanking every decision. About an hour later my stack is around $1200 after flopping a full house with 1010 against an aggressive player who never folds and the kid is sitting at about $900. I get dealt KK and raise it to $25 the standard raise at the table and he reraises me to $200 I give a little stupid speech on how whatever happens in this hand doesn't really matter because my real game starts soon and I push all in. He insta calls flips over AA and gives a big fist pump while standing up. His demeanor is all happy now because he has me in bad shape. I joke with him and say Kings have been good to me I see a third one in my future. He laughs nervously but still is confident he has me this time. Dealer puts out the flop and boom I hit a K and the table does the usual ohhhhh and ahhhhh and the kid takes his glasses off looks down at the flop and in the most defeated voice says "you have got to be loving kidding me this loving guy is pure luck" the dealer runs out the turn and the river and it doesnt help and the kid just slumps back in his chair staring at the dealer counting our chips. The dealer says I have him covered and the kid literally pushes the chips across the table in an aggressive matter mixing some of them in another players stack. A total dick move in my opinion but I have an ego and can be a dick as well so no big deal to me. He is now white as a ghost and just sitting at the table completely depressed with all the money he lost. He looks at me as I am stacking the chips gives me the finger and gets up from the table. As he is walking away I say "hey kid" he turns around and I say "happy birthday'!
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That story is too good to be true
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i can assure you jase's stories are legit
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four men sat down to play they played from dusk til break of day they played for gold and not for fun with separate scores for everyone but when time came to square accounts they all had made quite fair amounts can you this paradox explain? if no one lost, how could all gain?
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um to take the riddle seriously, they are a band playing music?
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Here is my bad beat story when I was in Vegas. 5 team parlay during the NCAA tournament 10 years or so ago. My first 4 games I win and just need UCLA to cover by 10. They are up by 11 with a few seconds left and they let the opposing team get an easy lay-up by not playing any defense and I lose the parlay. Wasn't the end of the world as it was like a $15 or $20 parlay but that still stings.
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jase1 posted:I have all types of gambling stories you name it I have most likely gambled on it. I can regurgitate a few from my older threads I just have lovely memory due to a lot of years of hard partying so I might forget a few details. Most of my crazier stories are from a hustling pool but now I don't play as much and mostly gamble with a bookie and play poker. I do play a weekly mahjong game late on the weekends after they close and that's more fun than anything I gamble on. Lmao that owns. Moments like these are why I'm falling in love with poker. Even when I'm losing the situations it creates are just compelling as poo poo
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I remember I used to like watching those world series of poker tournaments or w/e on TV and when it got down to the last tables it felt like people usually went out on nothing but bad beats. I dunno how they could stand playing a game where you can do everything right and still lose to bullshit on the river.
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temple posted:That story is too good to be true That's a pretty typical interaction. Other then the kid shoving his chips and mixing them with other players (which is a massive dick move, along with splashing the pot).
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For a person like me who has gambled my whole life losing doesn't even affect me anymore it's just part of the daily grind in gambling. I have been hit with the worst bad beats and I don't even bat an eye just rebuy and try to win it back or leave depending on my mood or what I want to accomplish for the day. Some people have already spent their winnings before cashing out or are playing with their rent money or whatever and I love those types of players because they make stupid mistakes due to emotions being involved. When you need that extra 4 or 5 hundred or whatever stakes you are playing (when you shouldn't be playing at all) to fix your car and you tell me about it you better believe I'm pushing you around to make sure you are as uncomfortable as gently caress with that money in front you. Sometimes I will ask how much their stack is and if they say something like $615 dollars I will raise exactly $615 dollars to just poke at them a little bit and get them emotional. It's little things that will eventually bring out the worse in a degenerate. I once took a guy for a grand at the pool table because I played every The Who song possible and then just poo poo on the band the whole night. He couldn't take it because that was his die-hard favorite band and how dare you talk poo poo about them! I knew from various people he gets really emotional about the band because their music saved his life or something.
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Yea, one thing I've noticed at the table is when amateurs start to talk about personal things or things that really matter to them at the table they start making mistakes. I usually keep the table talk to sports, movies, and music. Anything else can devolve into a table killing argument and ruin action.
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jase1 posted:I have all types of gambling stories you name it I have most likely gambled on it. I can regurgitate a few from my older threads I just have lovely memory due to a lot of years of hard partying so I might forget a few details. Most of my crazier stories are from a hustling pool but now I don't play as much and mostly gamble with a bookie and play poker. I do play a weekly mahjong game late on the weekends after they close and that's more fun than anything I gamble on. I totally forgot about your pool threads. You should make another one.
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Mozi posted:um to take the riddle seriously, they are a band playing music? drat, first reply and only two minutes later, nice
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