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I will buy a Steam version of FSN and Hollow Ataraxia where it can sit untouched like my other games as God intended
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i feel like y'all are kind of forgetting that the very beginning of FGO just kind of drops you headfirst into the setting and assumes you already have some familiarity with Fate (it does a really bad job of explaining all the basic universe concepts like how magic works, how Heroic Spirits work, etc, and seems more focused on the FGO-specific stuff for what little exposition you get)
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Dec 12, 2019 02:47
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For instance here's the results from the official survey FGO did last year:quote:Players were also asked what Fate-related work was their first, and they answered: quote:Reasons for why players started playing the game: Because they were fans wins the second one but you can take that as only a third of people having been fans prior to getting into FGO. And a lot of the people who answered Fate/Zero or the 2006 F/SN anime as the first entry in the series they saw just watched them because they were moderately popular anime airing at the time, and didn't think any more about them until they got into FGO. Incidentally, another argument against this kind of logic is the CCC event and servants. CCC the game did not sell very well, yet quote:The five most popular events are: It's the most popular event.
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Dec 12, 2019 02:51
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I'm glad BB is #1 as she deserves People often overstate how much pre-knowledge you need to enjoy something, which is especially true for Fate. The only part of the main storyline where knowledge of FSN is especially relevant is in Singularity F and even then you don't need to know any of that, it's just nice details for fans like Heracles hanging out at the rubble of Einzbern castle.
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Dec 12, 2019 03:04
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Also you're not any less of a fan if you were tired of visual novels and just read the LP/summary of the VN. Totally not speaking as someone who burned out after UBW and didn't play HF.
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Dec 12, 2019 03:15
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Argas posted:Also you're not any less of a fan if you were tired of visual novels and just read the LP/summary of the VN. you loving piece of poo poo
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Dec 12, 2019 03:27
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Argas posted:Also you're not any less of a fan if you were tired of visual novels and just read the LP/summary of the VN. But you miss out on the music! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zJBSNM77rQ
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Dec 12, 2019 03:29
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Stairmaster posted:you loving piece of poo poo BB = Melt > Sakura MonsieurChoc posted:But you miss out on the music! Honestly I want to play HA but I am just so sick of VNs and the slow pace at which I get through them.
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Dec 12, 2019 03:29
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Darox posted:it's just nice details for fans like Heracles hanging out at the rubble of Einzbern castle. oi what the gently caress
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Dec 12, 2019 04:00
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Darox posted:I'm glad BB is #1 as she deserves
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Dec 12, 2019 04:15
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Argas posted:Also you're not any less of a fan if you were tired of visual novels and just read the LP/summary of the VN. Elephant Parade fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Dec 12, 2019 |
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Dec 12, 2019 04:20
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BB is the only bad Sakuraface don't @ me.
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Dec 12, 2019 04:29
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Space Flower posted:oi what the gently caress illya is dead af
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Dec 12, 2019 04:53
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Elephant Parade posted:idk if not finishing the FSN visual novel makes you "any less of a fan," but it does prevent you from engaging with the totality of that visual novel, whether you read a summary or not. you don't need to finish consuming media you aren't enjoying, but if you don't, it kinda limits your ability to talk about the media in question. to be clear, I'm not saying that it substantially impairs your perspective on any other Fate work (with a few obvious exceptions), just Fate/Stay Night itself Well yeah but I'm kind of shrug as gently caress because I cannot play VNs at a sane pace and I'll just endure whatever drawbacks that gives me when it comes to enjoying the Fate franchise.
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Dec 12, 2019 05:20
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Darox posted:People often overstate how much pre-knowledge you need to enjoy something, which is especially true for Fate. The only part of the main storyline where knowledge of FSN is especially relevant is in Singularity F and even then you don't need to know any of that, it's just nice details for fans like Heracles hanging out at the rubble of Einzbern castle. Thanks to HA we know what part of town a lot of the fuyuki nodes are. I've seen a lot of speculation as to what caused the huge loving crater centered on Tohsaka's house.
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Dec 12, 2019 05:41
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it was ruby
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Dec 12, 2019 06:33
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https://twitter.com/fate15th/status/1205797118817923073 So apparently part of the FSN 15th Anniverswary expo includes a miniature version of Fuyuki. ...If the Einzbern castle is really up on a hill like that, wouldn't the entire town have seen the fireworks show when Alter starts poo poo in Heaven's Feel? It's Japan, you can probably write off Herc fighting or the odd explosive bit of archery from Gil and Archer as earthquakes, but earthquakes generally don't have giant plumes of purple light and explosions accompanying them
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Dec 14, 2019 12:44
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The giant fuckoff western castle is hidden from public view by magic so I imagine the fight would be too.
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Dec 14, 2019 12:56
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OnimaruXLR posted:https://twitter.com/fate15th/status/1205797118817923073 I remind you that in Fate you have a full power Excalibur vs Ea clash in the city park near the bridge.
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Dec 14, 2019 13:03
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Just imagining some random passerby seeing Ea and blurting out "I WANT THAT" like Abridged Shirou
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Dec 14, 2019 13:08
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Just imagining some random passerby seeing Ea and blurting out "I WANT THAT" like Abridged Shirou Part of me believes that the FGO localization team had EMIYA say that as a reference. I want to believe.
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Dec 14, 2019 17:31
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Dunno if this would be interesting to some people but: Some of us on the trad games forum are running a gigantic Fate Themed game of mafia (or werewolf to some!).The idea is that it follows Fate Apocrypha's grail war as its basic structure and you'll be doing battle as part of a team of 20 goons with another team of 20 goons in a race to see who can find their mafia element first and beat the other side in battle. Rules are relatively long but in service of making this easy for new people to approach!
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Dec 17, 2019 02:48
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I was going through the Fate openings yesterday and goddamn the series has some bangers but it's made me want to ask this: What's worth watching or reading? I've watched Zero, UBW, Apocrypha and the cooking one full, and started Extra Last Encore but ultimately dropped it. I'm also going through the original VN although very, very slowly because goddamn is it long. I have full intentions of watching Heaven's Feel but I'm waiting for someone to watch them together.
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Dec 17, 2019 14:44
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I think you've got them all. Well, the currently airing FGO anime has some pretty good fight animation in the same style as Apocrypha if you liked that.
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Dec 17, 2019 16:23
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Sindai posted:I think you've got them all. Yeah, Babylonia has roughly the same sort of entertainment value as Apocrypha. The story is so-so, but if you want epic clashes between gods and heroes, it's a good place to be.
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Dec 17, 2019 16:43
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Carnival Phantasm is worth watching
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Dec 17, 2019 16:43
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astr0man posted:Carnival Phantasm is worth watching Coincidentally, it also has the best OP
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Dec 17, 2019 17:12
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Blaze Dragon posted:I was going through the Fate openings yesterday and goddamn the series has some bangers but it's made me want to ask this: Babylonias got great fights and some decent gags though its kinda flubbing the story, and the first couple of episodes are pretty weak since they insisted on adapting a bunch of generic random encounters from an RPG. FGO itself has a really weak start but its writing gets pretty consistently incredible, but you gotta play a gacha rpg.
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Dec 17, 2019 19:54
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you can always just watch youtube videos, preferably ones that edit out the fights unless something special happens.
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Dec 17, 2019 20:07
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Blaze Dragon posted:I was going through the Fate openings yesterday and goddamn the series has some bangers but it's made me want to ask this: i think pretty much all you have left out of the franchise is Lord El-Melloi II Case Files, Strange Fake, the Extra games, and FGO (and related). Lord El-Melloi II loving owns, especially if you liked Waver in Zero because it's the Adult Waver show and he's really hot now. I'm not super familiar with Strange Fake or the Extra games, and I don't know off the top of my head if Strange Fake is even translated at all (Extra CCC definitely isn't), so the original Extra might be all you have available out of that lot; people seem to like it pretty well, so maybe play it on a PSP emulator, I guess? FGO, meanwhile, you're probably aware of on some level, and if you give it a shot you'll probably like it OK. The anime is fine, but it's not really an ideal way to experience it since they're jumping around wildly in the plot. e: and Carnival Phantasm, I guess.
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Dec 17, 2019 23:56
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strange fake's manga is scanlated though the scanlations vary wildly in quality. strange fake is cool but its update schedule is slow as molasses (in terms of the original work, not the translations) and there's a billion threads going on so the whole thing just feels kind of aimless.
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Dec 18, 2019 00:00
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Unrelated, but finding out that Melissa Fahn voices all the Medusas in the Aniplex Fate dubs makes me laugh my rear end off every time I think about it Casting the person who voiced Gaz in Invader Zim to voice another grumpy, vaguely gothy purple-haired badass was an inspired call
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Dec 18, 2019 00:15
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I haven't heard medusa, I'm going to now see how Ed from Cowboy Bebop sounds like an adult
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Dec 18, 2019 00:16
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Wait would that mean Shinji is Dib 
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Dec 18, 2019 00:39
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i wish the babylonia anime was as good as apo
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Dec 18, 2019 00:52
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I think you don't remember how much dead time Apoc is when Astolfo or Mordred isn't on screen
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Dec 18, 2019 00:53
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:i think pretty much all you have left out of the franchise is Lord El-Melloi II Case Files, Strange Fake, the Extra games, and FGO (and related). Oh, sorry, my bad. I did watch Lord El-Melloi II and loved it, and I'm reading the Strange Fake manga (whenever it comes out). The rest would be all-new territory for me, though I'd rather stay away from FGO, I really dislike gacha. On Extra, I've been tempted to get Extella/Extella Link but never did so, are they good? dogsicle posted:i wish the babylonia anime was as good as apo That's depressing.
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it's less depressing if you take into account that i 1) have never read the apo source material to compare and 2) am an apo apologist, but yeah gudao/mash have a similar effect as sieg/jeanne and it just kinda compounds with babylonia's smaller at-any-given-time cast and the issues of adapting something i already played firsthand
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Dec 18, 2019 01:17
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The 2nd half of Apoc is so bad, while Babylon only gets better and more intense after the break I think you're extremely colored by "I played this before, familiar is poo poo to me"
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Eh, I feel like our two protagonists' concept of 'nice kids in way over their heads' works a little better than 'generic self-sacrificing hero' and 'literal emotionless meat-robot'. Ritsuka and Mash at least get to joke around, do silly things, and interact on a human level with the rest of the cast. They're also a lot more central to the plot, so they feel less like an annoying distraction from the good stuff.
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