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food court bailiff posted:drat, first reply and only two minutes later, nice  time to take this luck to the slot machines!
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BrigadierSensible posted:Nup. Ex Crown Casino employee. (Dealer, 3 major games and all the minors except for 2up). Crown sorry. Star is my Brisbane one.
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shut up blegum posted:Someone smarter than me calculate the odds of that happening. Also weird that it landed on 7 three times in four spins. The odds of hitting a single number at roulette are 1/38 so the odds of doing it four times in a row are around 2,000,000 to 1. If you bet multiple numbers each time that would change things significantly of course. If you bet 10 bucks on the first bet and let it ride each time you’d have about $15,000,000.
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bird with big dick posted:The odds of hitting a single number at roulette are 1/38 so the odds of doing it four times in a row are around 2,000,000 to 1. If you bet multiple numbers each time that would change things significantly of course. gently caress, it's that easy? How come people LOSE money gambling?
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shut up blegum posted:Someone smarter than me calculate the odds of that happening. Also weird that it landed on 7 three times in four spins. The odds of it hitting three times in a row is approximately 1 in 54,000, 4 times in a row approximately 1 in two million and the record of six times in a row which I believe has only been accomplished three times recorded is 1 in 3 billion I know the four in a row one well because it happened to me once when I was dealing and is a story I can go into greater detail on later No matter what people think there's absolutely no way the roulette dealer can throw the ball in a way where they can influence the outcome the wheel spins One Direction while the dealer throws in the other direction so it is practically impossible A few years back I did a whole thread on Casino gaming as I was working towards being a casino manager have dealt almost every game and know the inner workings of a casino fairly well the stories I could tell could fill a book so when I get home I'll start breaking them into chunks and posting them here there is some wild poo poo out there
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TurboFlamingChicken posted:
Can the dealer make it spin any other boy bands? Say New Kids on the Block?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Can the dealer make it spin any other boy bands? Say New Kids on the Block?  
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Some of you are posting nice happy stories about how you won money at a casino. That's nice and all, but you have to realize that you are the in the vast vast minority there. Most people lose money. Not always a lot of money, but there are enough people losing little amounts of money that it all adds up. It added up enough to pay my salary, the salary of the bloke standing next to me, the salary of the bloke supervising us, (who earned more than we did), the salary opf the bloke supervising him, (who earned more than he did), and to build the building, and pay for the lights and cameras and security etc. etc. So with all of these people losing money nobody is having a happy time, or has nice fluffy stories to tell. Apart from the one bad angry story of 'customer displeasure' that I have already told in this thread, what you need to realize is that life in a Casino is a life filled with low level anger, misery, and disappointment. And if you are a dealer, all of thsi translates into 8 hours of people whinging at you, swearing at you, blaming you for their losses, and blaming you that they stick around chasing those losses instead of walking out the exit, (as an aside: dealers were not supposed to suggest to the punters that maybe they might want to leave, or get off the table as a matter of Casino policy, but towards the end of my time there I didn't give a poo poo, so would often helpfully try to tell people where the exits were, and maybe they might want to use them. They seldom did, and would blankly give me another $100 note.) So much like retail, but moreso, being a casino dealer is a way to see people at their worst for 8 hours a day. All while you have to smile, take their abuse and thank them for it. It is a great way to learn to hate people. People would often get lovely at me when they were losing because, and I quote, "it's not your money!". And I would always tell them, "mate, you can win all of the chips I have in front of me and go home a rich man. Or you can lose everything you have and go home a beggar. I don't care. I get paid the same and my shift ends at the same time either way. I'm here all day, don't expect me to be invested in your wins or losses. I am just waiting till I can go home." Nearly every day I am glad I don't work there anymore.
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Yeah, without wanting to poo poo on people who like gambling/poker/whatever and can afford it, the whole industry is a loving open wound society particularly affecting low income earners. Gambling addiction is real and destroys more lives than any other 'industry'. I like reading the stories but the whole thing is a miserable sad affair.
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Summer of 2018 I was out of work and paid my bills with online poker, it was extremely loving stressful but it somehow worked out because I’d quit if I won or lost a certain amount in a night. My state only has 1/2 as the max live holdem stakes which is very hard to beat long term with the rake, but the few times a year I go it’s the same regs at the tables and I always wonder if they just have a bankroll set aside, or if they’re out every day trying to make it work as an income. Poker bums seem sad to me so I imagine working somewhere and seeing the same old lady pumping the slots every day is pretty loving depressing.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Some of you are posting nice happy stories about how you won money at a casino. lmao capitalism.txt
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Tetramin posted:. Around here I see a lot of people who buy like a hundred bucks in scratch off lotto tickets at the gas station and then just run them all under the scanner as soon as they’re in their hands; it’s pretty tragic to stand behind. Also always happens when I just want to get gas and get the hell out and they jam up the line.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Can the dealer make it spin any other boy bands? Say New Kids on the Block? God drat voice to text, it knows my secrets
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jase1 posted:I have all types of gambling stories you name it I have most likely gambled on it. I can regurgitate a few from my older threads I just have lovely memory due to a lot of years of hard partying so I might forget a few details. Most of my crazier stories are from a hustling pool but now I don't play as much and mostly gamble with a bookie and play poker. I do play a weekly mahjong game late on the weekends after they close and that's more fun than anything I gamble on. Gonna need more of this tia
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I have told this story before in one of the previous threads so apologize if anyone has heard it before. Before Casinos became so popular and every state had one it was a pain trying to find poker games in the Cleveland area. You had to be vouched for and even then you might only get to invited lower stakes games or just overall lovely places to play poker. Once that Casino was built though the home poker scene exploded and higher limit poker games were everywhere. Lil F was a guy who was going to medical school and had a really small studio apartment close to downtown. I played at his game every Monday night for about 2 years straight, he was a bookie and taking a rake at his home poker game to put himself through school. I love playing there I could bet the MNF game and play poker at the same time and he would just find degenerate guys from the casino that wanted to play in a more personal setting plus Lil F would lend them money. Essentially these guys were fish and me and 4 other guys were there every week trying to take every penny we could from them. They would play a few weeks and then realize they were out of their league and usually not come back or go broke and come back a few weeks later to try again. It was a revolving door of degenerate morons who had no business being at the table and that's exactly what I dreamt off. On a random night, I remember it being really cold and a new guy was at the table when I showed up. We exchanged pleasantries and right away I could sniff out something was up. He was nervous and he was really checking out everyone at the table, so I assume he was a new player to these kinds of stakes and it would be fun to let the vultures tear him apart. He smoked a lot and Lil F did not allow people to smoke there so he had to go down 3 floors outside and then be let back in with a buzzer. He must have taken 5 smoke breaks in a matter of 3 hours and so we started to call him, Marlboro man. Lil F buzzes him up and there is a knock at the door, lil F checks the peephole and it's Marlboro man. Lil F opens the door and he gets pushed in by 2 dudes with AK's. They tell us to lie down up take off our pants grab all our cash and cellphones and wallets. They spray us with pepper spray and bolt. Lil F runs next door calls the cops and there are 7 morons in their underwear being interview by police. We immediately tell them about Marlboro man and naturally the cops press him hard. He sticks to his story and I have to drive home in my underwear in super cold weather. I called my Uncle told him what happened and he is thinking exactly whatever one else is thinking. Marlboro man set us up and we think Lil F is involved too so we start asking around about Marlboro man. Within a few days it comes out Marlboro man was in deep to drug dealers and figured this was a way to get out of it. He copped to the whole thing and was arrested eventually charged and sent to jail. I watched that fucker cry when he was sentenced and I clap so loud the judge told me to knock it off. Lil F wasn't in on it but he was pretty much blackballed from the poker games because every thought he was. The kicker of this story is that it was the second time I was at a game that was robbed in a very short time span.
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JAMOOOL posted:not at a casino but the back room of a bar, one of those places where people drink underage and can still smoke indoors in certain areas cuz it's juuust on the outskirts of town and cops never come around. anyway it's a 1/2 NL game and there is one pretty drunk guy who is losing his rear end, which is fine with me because he's a dick and is wearing one of those obnoxious Trump shirts where he's standing on top of a tank looking 100 lbs skinnier than he's ever been this century. anyway he has lost probably around $400-500 in a manner of like 30 minutes. then he gets all in with 77 against some other guy's AQ. flop has a Queen and the dude just stands up, walks over to the wall, and punches a big hole in it. the turn and river is dealt and one of the guys is like, "Brad, sit the gently caress down, you have a flush", and he just sits down, collects his stack, and acts as though he didn't just punch a hole in the wall. the entire time he had this blank, zombie-like expression on his face, it was weird but also kind of hilarious in retrospect This is amazing. I love guys freaking out before the hands over. Did anyone at the bar get pissed about the hole or was it a dive place that didn't matter?
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EVE Online just opened a new casino system so that its degenerate player base can waste even more of their real life money on space .jpgs. this is not the typical "loot crate" system you see in modern game, but instead a raffle system that players can set up themselves for their own items. so of course i took this opportunity to reactivate my account and fleece some suckers. one week before the new raffle system went into place i bought a fire-sale Avatar titan (this is the biggest ship in the game basically a Deathstar, its worth about $350 USD but I had enough in game currency to afford it). i got it for 46.5 billion isk the day of the new raffle system i put my Avatar up for 195m per ticket, 512 tickets (i was aiming to make 100 billion isk). the tickets sold out in 4 hours and i doubled my money! thank you EVE online player base for giving me the equivalent of $350 for free  the house always wins
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BrigadierSensible posted:When you say you worked in Electronic Gaming Machines, do you mean Slot Machines, (or Pokies as all godly people call them)? Or did you work developing the Rapid games? (Rapid Roulette, Rapid Blackjack, and last time I was in Melbourne I even saw Rapid Baccarat)? I ask because if I remember correctly the Rapid games were developed as a loophole to get around how many machines the Casino could legally have. (Because there was an actual dealer it was classified as a Table Game, even though that one dealer dealt to a bunch of different electronically connected screens.) Sorry, I somehow missed this one. The games I work on are primarily slots, but also occasionally keno. I haven't worked on Rapid games, but you're right about how gaming companies get around regulations to get slot games into casinos. There are quite a few jurisdictions that don't allow the entire concept of slots (ie. reels with symbols whose win outcomes are determined by where they stop), but DO allow other types of games, like bingo (aka Class II), scratch tickets, etc. For those jurisdictions, gaming companies develop games that use an outcome engine that is allowed by regulation, and then use the reels to display an equivalent win (the reels are there for quote-unquote "Entertainment Value"). Like, you'll have a small bingo game on one side of the screen, and then the reels spin to reflect whether you got bingo or not. Ticketing systems go out to a central server that tells the EGM whether or not the ticket they pulled on that spin was a winner (and for how much). The next big thing in this vein is Historical Horse Racing, where game outcomes are determined by, I poo poo you not, actual horse races. I mean, check this poo poo out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rmh5K3pXwg BrigadierSensible posted:My second question is what are the maths on EGMs? Again, if I remember correctly, the payout percentage on the pokies when I was working there was 87%, but that may have changed. Return To Player ranges depending on jurisdiction, and some jurisdictions give casino owners a choice of what percentage they want to use within a certain range. 87% is very low, and typically reserved for places like airports and such where people play because they have nothing else to do. RTPs in casinos tend to be around the higher end (93-95%) because it's easier to keep people playing longer if they're getting wins more often. BrigadierSensible posted:Edit: I thought of some other questions. I don't have much visibility personally on this. I can tell you that recently the trend absolutely has been towards IPs that appeal to younger audiences, because casinos are requesting game themes that bring more young people in. As you suggest, their core market (boomers) is literally dying, so this has become a critical push in the industry. There's also a ton of copying in the industry. Lightning Link was the big thing a couple of years ago, and the rest of the gaming companies all came out with their own version of that game's core mechanic. Fruit-themed games are also apparently big in Europe, so all of the gaming companies in that market put out fruit-based games on the regular. BrigadierSensible posted:Do you get exclusivity when your company signs a contract with a casino? i.e. they only stock your machines and not competitors? I don't have much visibility on this either, but I'm betting it almost never happens, if at all. Casinos do not want to limit themselves to a single vendor.
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bird with big dick posted:Why was that guy that programmed slots to pay out after a particular combination of buttons presses Programmers can be fuckin dumb too. Usually programmers aren't this dumb though. Most dumb stuff isn't malicious like that. Like everywhere else, devs in this industry will try to take shortcuts to get stuff done with less work. For instance, my wife (who works as a gaming tester at a test lab outside of the place I work) told me this story: Some games have bonuses that are just a number of free spins. Sometimes they have win multipliers, sometimes not, but sometimes they will also have retriggers that will add MORE free spins. They usually have a cap so that the game can't keep adding free spins forever. In this one case, a tester wrote a defect because it wasn't capping correctly at 100 spins and would keep adding indefinitely. The dev, being a super smart dude, decided that the best way to fix this was to make it so that if the free spins got to 100, every remaining spin was a hard-coded losing outcome. Yeah, that defect got reopened.
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Tetramin posted:Summer of 2018 I was out of work and paid my bills with online poker, it was extremely loving stressful but it somehow worked out because I’d quit if I won or lost a certain amount in a night. My state only has 1/2 as the max live holdem stakes which is very hard to beat long term with the rake, but the few times a year I go it’s the same regs at the tables and I always wonder if they just have a bankroll set aside, or if they’re out every day trying to make it work as an income. Had a friend who was an online poker fiend, but not some sort of amazing shark, just statistically better than 90% of your average schlubs who have played it for more than a week and less than a year. He's sign up for a site, play and make money, then when he got sent up too many levels to where he was playing 99% sharks, he's start another account at another site and start over. It would take him a week or two to level up enough to get to the point where he was not longer making easy/reliable money. He signed up his girlfriend, his parents, and even found a few sites where the determining factor was the credit card and not the name/address. He finally ran out of sites to play, and gave up, only coming out of retirement when he'd hear about a new site starting up. I think he (on a good week) would clear $2-3k playing the lower-mid tier rooms with $5-20 buy-ins. He also said that you could easily tell online players from regulars when you went to a casino (something he rarely did) because they would have such erratic bets (really high or low).
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jase1 posted:This is amazing. I love guys freaking out before the hands over. Did anyone at the bar get pissed about the hole or was it a dive place that didn't matter? surprisingly, no. I don't think anyone in the game actually worked at the bar & he was in that near-blackout zone where you had to give him a wide latitude. plus most people there had taken a stack off him so obviously we wanted him to stay
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jase1 posted:lie down and take off our pants My kinda poker game
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dead prez posted:i had a friend who got the bad beat jackpot from holding a four of a kind when someone river ratted a royal flush. 6k on the spot & security escort out as an aside I am pretty sure I have played around 2-3 million hands lifetime and I don't think I have ever gotten a single hand that would have qualified for the bad beat jackpot. I hate that they take an extra dollar out for that.
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bird with big dick posted:The odds of hitting a single number at roulette are 1/38 so the odds of doing it four times in a row are around 2,000,000 to 1. If you bet multiple numbers each time that would change things significantly of course. The first one was just 7, I think the second one was 14 and 21 (can't recall), third and fourth were definitely all the multiples of 7, and the fifth was loving 17, which I did not cover. I did not place my winnings on the 7 each time, of course, I just left the original R10 bet there. I was pretty happy, but it did not convince me that casinos are lovely happy places. They are profoundly depressing.
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This close to retirement active duty dumbfuck I was deployed with told us a story about this time he was gambling in Vegas and lost bad. To the point he didn't have enough money to get out of the ramp and had to sleep in his car until his sister showed up to help him out. One of the other guys asked him how old he was when this happened. 25? 26? He said it had happened a few years ago. He was 40.
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Was just made aware of virtual sports beting. Folks we've reached new degenerate heights https://www.betradar.com/virtual-sports-betting/football/
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Earth Table posted:Was just made aware of virtual sports beting. Folks we've reached new degenerate heights this is not a new low in gambling behavior let me assure you of that esports betting has been a thing for a while now and honestly my largest surprise was that it had taken as long as it did to develop. i've seen organized betting over predicted homicide locations. as in, thousands of people in a large betting pool on what subdivision in a specific city would next see a reported homicide. because that isn't at all ghoulish or self-fulfilling.
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I remember betting $5 with a friend on CPU vs CPU matches of Madden, it's kinda fun actually I have a lot of fun sports betting stories. I once lost the biggest football bet I'd ever made on a lost XP. I've also won two bets in the last two years on flukey final plays in which the offense does that crazy lateral thing that never ever works and usually results in several fumbles, except in both of these games the defense scored touchdowns that were insignificant to the final result but DID manage to cover both the spread and the total points. In both cases they likely would've been overturned had they gone to review but since they "didn't matter" they didn't bother lol
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Earth Table posted:Was just made aware of virtual sports beting. Folks we've reached new degenerate heights its not Salty Bet https://www.saltybet.com/
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I love watching slots on twitch. It sounds weird but I swear it's good as hell. There are high rollers that will be doing 50 euro spins, sometimes on multiple games at once. Usually it's a mix of real cash and "bonus" cash from the casino for affiliate signups which makes it possible for people to perpetually play slots at a profit as long as they keep driving traffic to the casino. Nothing beats watching a dude lose 30,000 euro on slots in like 2 hours. It's also fun to watch them win 100,000 + but it's crazy how fast a slot machine eats money at 50 euros a pull.
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SubnormalityStairs posted:The core computing components will be typical low-cost motherboards, chips, etc, but yes there absolutely is a bunch of specialized hardware for things like bill acceptors and printers and lights and security. And not just electronic hardware, the cabinets themselves are highly engineered to do things like channel water away from electrical components if they suddenly get rained on. Internally how do software slots/online slots determine a win? Do they roll an RNG calculation for each reel? Is the reel animation only an after-the-fact representation of a total win which was already calculated? I realize it doesn't matter but I'm curious how "real" what you see on the screen is compared to the code in the game.
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How much money does Seth MacFarlane get every time I hit max bet on a Family Guy slot machine
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BurgerQuest posted:Yeah, without wanting to poo poo on people who like gambling/poker/whatever and can afford it, the whole industry is a loving open wound society particularly affecting low income earners. Gambling addiction is real and destroys more lives than any other 'industry'. I like reading the stories but the whole thing is a miserable sad affair. The first time I went to Vegas the cabbie said, "See that? That's the MGM Grand it cost 3/4 of a billion dollars. That hotel over there is the Bellagio it cost 1.2 billion dollars. The Ventian over there cost 1.3 billion dollars. You know where they came up with that kind of money?" "Uh, tell me.", I said. He pointed at all the people walking up and down the strip and said, "From all these losers! All these people are losers. Those private planes at McCarron? Filled with losers. All those commercial jets filled with people, losers!". I walked through a couple casinos that trip.
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BurgerQuest posted:Yeah, without wanting to poo poo on people who like gambling/poker/whatever and can afford it, the whole industry is a loving open wound society particularly affecting low income earners. Gambling addiction is real and destroys more lives than any other 'industry'. I like reading the stories but the whole thing is a miserable sad affair. Definitely agreed. I find the trashiness alluring but I legit find the implications of casinos everywhere depressing as gently caress. Also the fact that so many areas authorize casinos because its an easier way to raise revenues than, like, actually making meaningful improvements to the community. The aforementioned gambling parlors on the UK high streets are especially sad
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Salt Fish posted:Internally how do software slots/online slots determine a win? Do they roll an RNG calculation for each reel? Is the reel animation only an after-the-fact representation of a total win which was already calculated? I realize it doesn't matter but I'm curious how "real" what you see on the screen is compared to the code in the game. I can't talk much about how wins are determined other than to say there are complex math engines which (should) use crypto-secure RNGs to produce outcomes. There are jurisdictions which require that reel strips be virtualized in a way that can be shown in code, and third-party certification providers can examine all of the code to verify that, so that's what gaming companies do. And yes, reel animation needs to be an after-the-fact representation of the outcome, because you don't want somebody to be able to kill the power after seeing the first three reels to generate a new outcome when the power is restored. Outcomes are generated, stored offline, and then the reels spin. If somebody cuts the power on the third reel stop, when the power comes back on they'll see the exact same results. Third-party certification labs verify this with every gaming company's products because regulations require it.
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I can't remember which goon this was and he's probably grateful for it, but he posted about being 4/5 on an MMA parlay only to have his ticket wiped out by Tito Ortiz winning a fight in 2009. Tito had already been considered shot for years prior and was fighting a much younger Ryan Bader. There's only been one fight I ever felt 100% sure of and I was too young to find a bookie. Don't Bet On MMA.
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Blistex posted:Had a friend who was an online poker fiend, but not some sort of amazing shark, just statistically better than 90% of your average schlubs who have played it for more than a week and less than a year. He's sign up for a site, play and make money, then when he got sent up too many levels to where he was playing 99% sharks, he's start another account at another site and start over. It would take him a week or two to level up enough to get to the point where he was not longer making easy/reliable money. He signed up his girlfriend, his parents, and even found a few sites where the determining factor was the credit card and not the name/address. He finally ran out of sites to play, and gave up, only coming out of retirement when he'd hear about a new site starting up. I don’t know about that last paragraph. People used to online play(in my experience) usually stick to 3-5bb opening bets and about 3/4 pot later in the hand until they get the feel of the table, which I guess ends up being small at some tables. In my experience live players bet way bigger than you’d see online. But yeah during the time I was grinding for my income I’d only play Thursday through Saturday nights lol, a whole lot of drunk people playing 2/5 going for big scores. I usually was able to withdraw about $1k every Monday with a big enough bankroll left over to play more 2/5 the next weekend. I also am not sure why you’d be starting new accounts, the site I play on doesn’t have any sort of like, ELO or anything so you’re always with the same player base. Your friends whole story doesn’t make any sense to me but who knows.
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Shumagorath posted:I can't remember which goon this was and he's probably grateful for it, but he posted about being 4/5 on an MMA parlay only to have his ticket wiped out by Tito Ortiz winning a fight in 2009. Tito had already been considered shot for years prior and was fighting a much younger Ryan Bader. They changed the name of that thread to bet on MMA the Jase won thread after I won around 30k on MMA. I think it was a Robbie Lawler fight which oddly enough I met him awhile ago and talk about that very thread and how my wife thanked him for the new shoes I bought with my winnings. I started off in that thread being mocked because I was just getting into betting on MMA and then they all had to eat poo poo because I ended up winning a decent amount. That was a fun roller coaster.
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