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infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
also sites that do that but pay via incredibly invasive ads and malware installs

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taqueso
Mar 8, 2004


:911:
:wookie: :thermidor: :wookie:
:dehumanize:

:pirate::hf::tinfoil:

it's cooler when your friends do it for free tho

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe

infernal machines posted:

buddy, my high school job was working for a place where i installed mod chips and unlooped hu cards for pirated direct tv.

i think technically i was a pc repair technician, but we all knew the score

had a classmate whose dad did the HU hacking, I think ca. 2000 they had some low-class Pentiums operating in the middle.

i May have asked this itt before but is there a history of direcTV authorization hacking? I’d be interested to read about efforts against the F card and DTV/Echostar zapping people before big events, all the way up to whenever it stopped working. are there still people who pirate satellite?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Hed posted:

had a classmate whose dad did the HU hacking, I think ca. 2000 they had some low-class Pentiums operating in the middle.

yeah, you could emulate the old "h" cards with a PC.

this might be some of what you want

we used to make crazy money during playoffs, olympics, and world cup because we'd offer a 20-day guarantee on the hu unloop any other time, but during those events it was pay every time, and direct tv would hit the cards multiple times a day sometimes. i was out of it before the switch to P4

infernal machines fucked around with this message at 01:27 on Dec 18, 2019

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

spankmeister posted:

As a sort of pirate netflix, yes. People will pay for that.

wild.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'


Where's methanar

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

Captain Foo posted:

Where's methanar

idgi

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
methanar posted about a horrific monster of a hardware platform built to host shitloads of pirate streams, all funded by vc, that they were a part of.

someone found the racks on ebay recently

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
did somebody say ghetto streaming platform

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

infernal machines posted:

methanar posted about a horrific monster of a hardware platform built to host shitloads of pirate streams, all funded by vc, that they were a part of.

someone found the racks on ebay recently

ooh that sounds fun. totally missed that

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Sniep posted:

ooh that sounds fun. totally missed that

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3903757&userid=204963#post500237975

Methanar posted:

did somebody say ghetto streaming platform

well hello there

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Hed posted:

are there still people who pirate satellite?

Yeah, but it's done with card sharing now

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






You can buy accounts for that on AliExpress lmao

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Sniep posted:

ooh that sounds fun. totally missed that

no what's really fun is that those pictures were apparently to NBSD's weirdly strict sense of propriety what a desk corner is to a funny-bone, and seeing so much "wrong" broke his rigid little brain so hard that he started accusing methanar of trading in child pornography

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
yeah...

that was one of the more bizarre meltdowns i've seen in yospos

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011



in the same way that I'm looking forward to seeing the results of the impending climate catastrophe I'm looking forward to seeing how nbsd manages to out-nbsd himself when he's off his ban+30 in a week

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe

infernal machines posted:

yeah, you could emulate the old "h" cards with a PC.

this might be some of what you want

we used to make crazy money during playoffs, olympics, and world cup because we'd offer a 20-day guarantee on the hu unloop any other time, but during those events it was pay every time, and direct tv would hit the cards multiple times a day sometimes. i was out of it before the switch to P4

cheers for the link. Would love to see how the old designs worked. Sort of like that 33c3 video on cable TV box RE.

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

mystes posted:

It sounded like the were just downloading a docker or VM image from dropbox every time they ran it or something, though, and it's not like dropbox has some sort of magic VM image merge conflict resolution scheme, so I don't see why they can't just cut out the dropbox part immediately?

The crazy part is that 1) they were backing up a 500TB image (possibly containing sensitive information) to docker, and 2) they were downloading it over the internet each time they ran it, but other than it seems like it's not that fundamentally different from how people use docker or whatever normally.

i just don't think the team who hosted 500tb of production data in dropbox would really be up to using containers or vms

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



Hed posted:

cheers for the link. Would love to see how the old designs worked. Sort of like that 33c3 video on cable TV box RE.

around the late 90s/early 00s we had some janky pirate setup for decoding dish tv. it was a home-soldered pcmcia card that went in the official slot on the set top box, and when they changed the encryption key, you updated the card by going into the parental lock and inputting incredibly long codes with no feedback whatsoever (split into 4 digit bits because the parent lock was that size). then you tried going to a locked channel and had to wait for a couple minutes to see if it worked

it was tedious as hell

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



isn't diablocam still used nowadays?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



no idea, i dont think i ever saw a legit one

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



really? i have one on a shelf, but don't own a dish anymore as i simply didn't use it enough

lament.cfg
Dec 28, 2006

we have such posts
to show you




My dad had one of those chip writers for a while until DirecTV flashed them all in one shot and that hack didn’t work anymore, then we paid a tech $100 to unlock the box or something

Stealing satellite is probably why I’m in the career I am today. yikes.

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
when i was a kid my dad was building the cartridges and selling them that broke the copy protection for that c64 leaderboard golf game.

also he used to build the descramblers for cable boxes and sold those as well.

that's where i got my interest in tech poo poo.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
piracy dads

could be a ganagtag

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
https://www.straight.com/life/1338251/lifelabs-ceo-charles-brown-says-he-doesnt-know-if-hacked-test-result-data-was-encrypted

i am so pissed off over this that i filed four FOI requests to see what the health authorities knew. i am faxing off two more later this morning

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

spankmeister posted:

As a sort of pirate netflix, yes. People will pay for that.

oddly enough, just today i saw a news article about some guys getting busted for this. they were running a paid pirate stream company out of las vegas nevada

why would you run something like this out of the usa? that's basically asking to go to jail

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts
speaking of, plexpass is on sale for the next two days for 90 bucks

in a well actually
Jan 26, 2011

dude, you gotta end it on the rhyme

fairly late (mid 00s?) directv sent out a pay-or-we’ll-sue demand letter (for $3k?) to everyone who had ordered card programmers (?) from one of the vendors they had sued.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

PCjr sidecar posted:

fairly late (mid 00s?) directv sent out a pay-or-we’ll-sue demand letter (for $3k?) to everyone who had ordered card programmers (?) from one of the vendors they had sued.

they would often get all of the sales records from a busted vendor and just spam "pay us $3500 and admit guilt and we won't sue you" letters to everyone, regardless of what they had actually purchased. in one case they demanded money from anyone who bought a smartcard reader, regardless of what they used it for, and in another case they demanded money from people who bought things that had nothing to do with tv piracy, like dreamcast mod chips (which only defeated the region lock), just because they bought them from some vendor that also sold hacked satellite cards

all pay tv providers are poo poo and i'm glad they are slowly going down the drain

e: even better

quote:

On one occasion, I learned from some other investigators that (DirecTV) was trying to obtain a settlement from a letter recipient who had bought a plastic pouch that could be used to carry a smart card programmer.

The_Franz fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Dec 18, 2019

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



The_Franz posted:

all pay tv providers are poo poo and i'm glad they are slowly going down the drain

and being replaced by pay streaming providers, who definitely won’t start doing the same poo poo because

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Lain Iwakura posted:

https://www.straight.com/life/1338251/lifelabs-ceo-charles-brown-says-he-doesnt-know-if-hacked-test-result-data-was-encrypted

i am so pissed off over this that i filed four FOI requests to see what the health authorities knew. i am faxing off two more later this morning

You saw that really it's a lot of alarmist reporting around "a bit of data got cryptolockered and nothing necessarily got exfiltrated", right?

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

James Baud posted:

You saw that really it's a lot of alarmist reporting around "a bit of data got cryptolockered and nothing necessarily got exfiltrated", right?

this problem is well above your head it appears

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

James Baud posted:

You saw that really it's a lot of alarmist reporting around "a bit of data got cryptolockered and nothing necessarily got exfiltrated", right?

did you see the part where the article says

quote:

The cyberattack has been characterized in the media as a "ransomware" event.

However, ransomware attacks typically involve locking an organization out of its electronic files rather than stealing data.

In this instance, Lifelabs said a payment was made to the cybercriminals to retrieve data.

and also the part where they were explicitly told they needed to secure the data at rest, but they can't actually say whether or not the data was secured?

James Baud
May 24, 2015

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Lain Iwakura posted:

this problem is well above your head it appears

Non-technical CEO asked technical question and doesn't know answer is just miles up there.

Even if the data was encrypted, any non-automated breach is typically going to also include scoring the means to decrypt it.

You know enough about this stuff to know better.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

James Baud posted:

Non-technical CEO asked technical question and doesn't know answer is just miles up there.

Even if the data was encrypted, any non-automated breach is typically going to also include scoring the means to decrypt it.

You know enough about this stuff to know better.


Lain Iwakura posted:

this problem is well above your head it appears

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

not sure what the word however is doing in there, a ransomware attack necessarily includes a demand for payment to decrypt data

the report I saw made it sound like they downloaded a bunch of stuff and charged money to send it back :wtc:

it's a much safer bet that no msm article will correctly use enough computer words in a row to describe what happened

there's an excellent chance they were backdoored and someone made copies of their poo poo, which is bad and a thing you won't realize from reading dead tree daily

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
i think, ideally, following a breach, the CEO should have a very clear answer to the question "were your legally mandated data storage policies followed?"

and of course if the answer is "i don't know" to what extent can it be assumed that any of your data access, retention, and security policies have been followed?

flakeloaf posted:

not sure what the word however is doing in there, a ransomware attack necessarily includes a demand for payment to decrypt data

the report I saw made it sound like they downloaded a bunch of stuff and charged money to send it back :wtc:

it's a much safer bet that no msm article will correctly use enough computer words in a row to describe what happened

yeah, it's probably a case of poor tech reporting, but the meaning of the sentence is pretty specific. as in the case in question is not like other ransomware cases, in some way

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Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

infernal machines posted:

i think, ideally, following a breach, the CEO should have a very clear answer to the question "were your legally mandated data storage policies followed?"

and of course if the answer is "i don't know" to what extent can it be assumed that any of your data access, retention, and security policies have been followed?

or at least the CEO should have the right CYA ready, like “a third party audit found we meet all legal standards” or whatever bs.

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