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Cojawfee posted:If Steve Irwin was still alive, he would. I would like to note that the only line in the book Harmless Creatures of Australia reads "Some of the sheep". It does not state "humans".
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Cojawfee posted:I think the green eye microbes were enough of a problem, the slugs were just dumb.
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Combat Pretzel posted:Now imagine reading a book that goes on and on about slugs this, slugs that, slugs killed the baby, for way too much time. hey, that sounds like Cibola B... oh i get it.
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Dec 19, 2019 04:09
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Not sure what episode so let's just say full season but it happened near the beginning: Am I misremembering or did the Roci blow up one of those "moon" defense platforms with their new railgun right before they landed onto Ilus? If so why didn't it blow them up in defense and if not, isn't it an extremely dumb idea to blow up a moon like that because of all the debris?
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Dec 19, 2019 08:31
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Roci didn't blow up one of the moons orbiting Ilus, just an asteroid on the way toward the planet.
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Dec 19, 2019 08:39
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OK, thanks. Something else I was wondering, in the later episodes we see multiple moons of Ilus have the same crescent shapes/shadows. Is it physically possible for this to happen with one sun?
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Dec 19, 2019 08:50
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I assume that since they were protomolecule bullshit technology moons, they may have not actually worked by the same manner of reflected illumination that that regular moons do, but rather, been generating light of their own through some internal protomolecule bullshit technology.
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Dec 19, 2019 09:00
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Has it been said if all the systems accessible through the gates are within the Milky way? Can they even figure out their relative position to Sol?
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Dec 19, 2019 11:23
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Evernoob posted:Has it been said if all the systems accessible through the gates are within the Milky way? The gate network is in the milky way, besides the hub, and who knows where the gently caress that is. They say in the book you can see Ilus's star from our solar system, way way out there. So someone figured it out.
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Dec 19, 2019 11:32
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Evernoob posted:Has it been said if all the systems accessible through the gates are within the Milky way? All the systems are within a roughly thousand light year sphere, IIRC.
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Boris Galerkin posted:OK, thanks. Nice catch. That should be impossible. The phase of a satellite is a function of its position between the planet and the star as viewed from the planet, as the moons are spread out (seem to be uniformly placed around the planet) they should each display a different phase. emanresu tnuocca fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Dec 19, 2019 12:24
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EimiYoshikawa posted:I assume that since they were protomolecule bullshit technology moons, they may have not actually worked by the same manner of reflected illumination that that regular moons do, but rather, been generating light of their own through some internal protomolecule bullshit technology. In that case they'd just be full moons, unless there's some proto fuckery simulating the appearance of phase... Incorrectly. Seems like it's just some goof maybe? Also worth looking at screenshots to see if the phases really are the same, they should be relatively similar for adjacent moons, after all.
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Dec 19, 2019 12:26
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Here's the most I could find at once. But they also show another moon from orbit in an adjacent scene and it's a half moon, not crescent.
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Dec 19, 2019 12:36
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From orbit the phase may appear different. If you look at the planetary system from a distance all objects would appear in the same phase (as the star is in the same direction to them). The screenshot looks to me on my tiny phone screen as though the left moon is a little fuller, but I can't tell for certain.
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Dec 19, 2019 12:43
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The dark portion of the one on the right is noticeably brighter too.
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Dec 19, 2019 12:47
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Dec 19, 2019 12:54
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Remember that if they try to show something as scientifically accurate as possible, it may come over as weird and wrong to most people. Best example was when they jettisoned someone out of the airlock from a rotating station.... that looked awkward as hell.
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Evernoob posted:Remember that if they try to show something as scientifically accurate as possible, it may come over as weird and wrong to most people. Best example was when they jettisoned someone out of the airlock from a rotating station.... that looked awkward as hell. What scene was that? And yeah I agree, was mainly curious if it was possible.
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Boris Galerkin posted:What scene was that? Comrade, you don't know what you're stepping into! Abort! Alternative best example: the Eros sequence, where Miller sees the Nauvoo coming and then just drifting by, and there are multiple shots of the Roci and the Eros together, like a few hundred meters apart.
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Dec 19, 2019 15:06
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I mean yeah the show is usually spot on but let us not forget the slingshot stealth manuever thingy from season 2 or 3. That was bonkers bad.
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Dec 19, 2019 15:36
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So I was just flipping through cool scenes this afternoon when... (Quality is garbo because our VDSL shat out AGAIN like 30 minutes ago, and trying to stream from a tethered connection with poor signal...)
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Super Slash posted:So I was just flipping through cool scenes this afternoon when... Yuuuuup, that made the book readers happy because it was such a subtle bit of foreshadowing for something that wouldn't happen for a few years. People were also theorizing if the belter that Avasarala was torturing in the very beginning might have been related to the stealth tech theft that happened this season, but apparently not. That's one of the nice things about adapting something that's so long but also nearly complete, unlike Game of Thrones (the ninth and last Expanse book should be out sometime next year). Events can be hinted at or moved up in timeline to give people a fuller, richer sense of the world Ty and Daniel have built.
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tao of lmao posted:Luke gets his hand chopped off and conveniently has a new one by the end of the movie I don't think that's the problem as much as that it's hard to gauge what's available or not when a good part of the season was about finding a cure to blindness. Like yeah, it may have been mentioned years ago, but I kept thinking "would they be able to reverse Amo's blindness?" None of which are plot holes. They were in a lovely situation, surrounded by deadly animals that would kill them on contact, so even if curing blindness was trivial to high-tech martian technology, their immediate survival depended on it. There are lots of ways to convey how important it was for that entire group not to go blind in the shittiest situations they were in. I still at the end was left with a strange taste because I couldn't figure out whether "oh, so they could just like, take off the infected part and grow a new one" was a valid choice or not. During the actual season I got this strong vibe that blindness was permanent, not just from Amos but from all the other characters as well. It was a bit of an emotional crux, and the regen tech at the end was like oh, yeah, about that. Also, I get the Luke analogy but the most prominent villain is a character entirely supported by technology and with the loudest breathing in cinema. We already knew that you could be almost entirely a Terminator from how Obi-Wan talks about him, and also the very hand replacement event was used as an emotional pivot when he sees Vader's hand later on. We've seen technology in this show used for the same negative effect (are Holden parents loving or just really a bunch of assholes abusing tech for political/territorial reasons?) a few times, but this was the opposite. But yeah this is just a minor nitpick, and as pointed out it doesn't compare with stuff like the slingshot. It's not even a plot hole, it just made it slightly harder to gauge what is a serious ailment and what isn't.
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Elentor posted:I don't think that's the problem as much as that it's hard to gauge what's available or not when a good part of the season was about finding a cure to blindness. Like yeah, it may have been mentioned years ago, but I kept thinking "would they be able to reverse Amo's blindness?" The blindness stuff was introduced and resolved in what, two episodes? I never got the sense that it was intended to be permanent, it was just one more disaster that this weird alien world was throwing at them that would have to be resolved before they could get to any sort of happy ending. I don't see the regen tech as playing into it at all -- it might have been trivial for a research lab on Mars to study the microorganism and figure out a safe way to make your eyeballs less of a perfect habitat for it, but they were stuck in a cave with limited supplies and no way to get help. It was a major crisis in the way that zombie movies often present, where someone has a health issue that might easily be treatable except that society has fallen and there's no one that knows how to remove an appendix. Once they shut down all the machinery on Ilus and fired up the ships' drives again, it might have been less of an issue, but for those episodes yes, it was a serious ailment just because everyone's going blind and we can't fix it because we're blind and we're prisoners in the death slug cave because we're blind and we can't send for help because physics isn't working. It's been shown on the show that medical technology is excellent in the world of the Expanse. People have mentioned Holden staving off cancer with a weekly pill, or the guy from the Canterbury who was deciding between a robot arm or a jelly-grown prosthetic. I think as long as you make it to the medbay in mostly one piece, they'll be able to put you back together. Phenotype fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Dec 19, 2019 |
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Mu Zeta posted:Also the blindness and toxin slug storylines are right out of a lovely mid-season episode of star trek. But other than that I loved the season.
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Cojawfee posted:The first season sucked on ice, why would they make another? b/c parker posey chewing scenery is always worth it. It's also a very pretty show. Had a lot of issues, but I enjoyed throwing it on and half paying attention to it.
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rndmnmbr posted:I would like to note that the only line in the book Harmless Creatures of Australia reads "Some of the sheep". It does not state "humans". It's not even a book.
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404notfound posted:People were also theorizing if the belter that Avasarala was torturing in the very beginning might have been related to the stealth tech theft that happened this season, but apparently not. I think it still was, or at least that was the intent of that plot point at the time. It's hard to perfectly keep track of all the threads of story and the things you need to keep consistent over a multi-series run. A good example is the slow deterioration of the portrayal of space combat. You had that brilliant scene by the spin station where the roci crew are suited up and stuck in their chairs in their deliberately depressurised ship. This season we have a scene of Ashford's ship being pursued by another and he's just wandering around the bridge ordering his pilot to "match burn" - as if outrunning another ship can be done at a leisurely < 1g.
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esperterra posted:b/c parker posey chewing scenery is always worth it. Did they ever explain why the eldest daughter doesn't look anything like her parents, like an "oh, they adopted me" reference or anything?
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Some of the Sheep posted:A good example is the slow deterioration of the portrayal of space combat. You had that brilliant scene by the spin station where the roci crew are suited up and stuck in their chairs in their deliberately depressurised ship. This season we have a scene of Ashford's ship being pursued by another and he's just wandering around the bridge ordering his pilot to "match burn" - as if outrunning another ship can be done at a leisurely < 1g. You're thinking of the early-season scene where Ashford and Drummer were acting worried to bluff their prisoner when they actually had several escort ships standing by nearby all along to scare their pursuer off? e: Apparatchik Magnet posted:Did they ever explain why the eldest daughter doesn't look anything like her parents, like an "oh, they adopted me" reference or anything? Daughter of an earlier marriage, if I remember correctly. Can't remember whether it was the mother's or father's.
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Some of the Sheep posted:It's not even a book. Wait what's going on here
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Medical tech in the expanse is so good they have near perfect prosthesis, a magic gel that can regrow limbs, drugs that just kill ALL CANCER, they can regrow your spine if you would just lay down and let them do it b
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Slashrat posted:Daughter of an earlier marriage, if I remember correctly. Can't remember whether it was the mother's or father's. The mother is the biological mother of all three Robinson children. The father adopted Judy. At least in the Netflix version of the show.
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Slashrat posted:You're thinking of the early-season scene where Ashford and Drummer were acting worried to bluff their prisoner when they actually had several escort ships standing by nearby all along to scare their pursuer off? Yes, and in the Expanse universe if you're being chased you are gonna be pulling some g's. Ashford strutting around like a peacock should have ended up like this  Which is still a freakin' great shot and speaks to my point, they mostly get it correct it's just hard to be perfect all the time.
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On one hand, yeah, don't stroll around if combat is imminent. In the books, the crash couch in your quarters is also your bed, just in case poo poo pops off while you're asleep. On the other hand, some lovely Belter pirate ship probably can't do better than like 2–3g, so standing around would be uncomfortable but not lethal, at least until the ship has to dodge a missile or something. (Also, senior officers on the Donnager were standing around the CIC with loving coffee, so this isn't a new issue for the show.)
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Toast Museum posted:On one hand, yeah, don't stroll around if combat is imminent. In the books, the crash couch in your quarters is also your bed, just in case poo poo pops off while you're asleep. On the other hand, some lovely Belter pirate ship probably can't do better than like 2–3g, so standing around would be uncomfortable but not lethal, at least until the ship has to dodge a missile or something. If you're going to bring up the books there are any number of scenes where "lovely Belter pirate ship(s)" are zipping around the solar system well in excess of 2-3g; if you're chasing someone you run after them you don't shuffle like a zombie. Also I think you're selling short how difficult it would be to even stand at 3g, that's the equivalent of having 2 clones of yourself 1 perched on each shoulder. And the Donnager thought they were going to be swatting flies, not getting their clock cleaned by railguns. Tooling around on in the CIC with coffee was evidence of their hubris.
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Also, missiles took a while to reach the target. Plenty of time for coffee.
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Anything on a spaceship has to be able to be made safe fairly easily if gravity suddenly stops being a thing you can rely on. Containers are easily sealable, tools are easily stowable, et cetera. It's not outside the realm of possibility to assume that the Donnager's crew actually did think they were unlikely to land in any kind of situation that would necessitate having to put oh-poo poo lids on their coffee, but I suspect that any adequately trained personnel would keep the lid with them. Now, Holden, I can see him accidentally burning himself and/or someone else with spontaneously-floating coffee because he forgot about the lid.
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Don't remember when, but amos does give him poo poo for not securing his coffee at some point.
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SpookyLizard posted:Don't remember when, but amos does give him poo poo for not securing his coffee at some point. First season, I am watching the whole show again. It is just loving nuts how much tension there is and how much stuff is happening in a season. Season 2 especially.
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