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romanowski
Nov 10, 2012

"it's trying to eat me!!" was the greatest line delivery in the history of star wars and single-handedly restored my faith in the franchise

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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
I'm so happy Greef turned out to be a good* guy. I was going "the gently caress is wrong with you people? Who casts Carl Weathers as a villain in anything?"

When I was asked about whether it was worth watching, I described the show to a friend as basically Samurai Jack in Space, and I'm immensely happy that it's followed that formula thus far.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Teek posted:

Can’t wait for the Obi-wan series retcon that has him going against some elite Trooper squadron. Which might feasibly work if that’s his only canon interaction with them before ANH.

The first Stormtroopers were clone troopers, many of whom Kenobi knew personally. That alone should shade his account of stormtrooper skill levels.

Killer robot posted:

Seen this observation with superheroes too. Most of the MCU movies and CW supers shows seem to deal with dad issues, both dealing with your own and being one. It's actually a kinda sharp distinction from a realization I had close to 20 years ago that in so much geeky media and pop culture fathers were almost always simple absentees, abusers, or buffoons and drive plots in very simple ways when relevant.

And how many sitcoms had an outright bumbling fool of a father ? It was a (subjectively) very high percentage for a long time. Putting actually good fathers on TV would be a hugely positive cultural development.

Great Enoch posted:

I was getting real Afrikaner vibes in that speech.

Goddamn right ! The Client absolutely sounds like one of those motherfuckers !

I worked for an older SA gent for a few years. His recounting of his experience ran up to 1993 in Johannesburg and then picked up in London in 1994. Absolute motherfucker and also that particular kind of incompetent that lands you in upper management. In 4 years he had two members of his team paid off by HR to go away quietly; and I'm stunned that number is so low.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxEweP2TiMk

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?
My only gripe:

"Cover up those bars on your arm, that'll give you away as a rebel! Don't worry about the rebel Insignia tattooed on your face, though."

FLIPADELPHIA
Apr 27, 2007

Heavy Shit
Grimey Drawer
That was the best episode since the pilot- might even be better than. Herzog was an inspired casting choice.

VocalizePlayerDeath
Jan 29, 2009

Captain Splendid posted:

My only gripe:

"Cover up those bars on your arm, that'll give you away as a rebel! Don't worry about the rebel Insignia tattooed on your face, though."

I didn't know she had a face tattoo until you mentioned it. I guess I'm just as oblivious as a stormtrooper.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.
Man, watching this was so much better than reflecting on TROS. The Boer narrative is a good pickup, but I'd say it even moreso sounds like Rhodie propaganda that makes the rounds now.
Did a great job binding all the threads the earlier eps spun out. drat it was good.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

Captain Splendid posted:

My only gripe:

"Cover up those bars on your arm, that'll give you away as a rebel! Don't worry about the rebel Insignia tattooed on your face, though."

I didn't notice the face tattoo either, but the bars are what identify her as a former drop trooper. The insignia could be easy enough to play off the bars are a huge red flag "hey we got a bad rear end here".

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:
GUS FRING!!! Every cast member in this show is insanely perfect.

Desperado Bones
Aug 29, 2009

Cute, adorable, and creepy at the same time!


Is there an official time line for the Mandalorian? I ask because in this episode everyone kept talking as if years or at least a whole year had gone through since Mando left with the Child. Kuill saying that baby Yoda hadn't grown had me wondering. .

Anyways my more dumb predictions for last episode: Baby Yoda force chokes Giancarlo Esposito because he is hurting his dad. The person with the spurs is definitely going to be someone from the New Republic. It would be extra dumb if a Yoda child with force powers has been going under the radar of some people in the Star Wars universe, aside that he was totally taken from somewhere.
Mando is gonna run away with his son at the end, making him being hunt down by everyone.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Desperado Bones posted:

Is there an official time line for the Mandalorian? I ask because in this episode everyone kept talking as if years or at least a whole year had gone through since Mando left with the Child. Kuill saying that baby Yoda hadn't grown had me wondering. .

I feel like this is a chronic issue with the pacing in most Star Wars things, like whenever folks jump into hyperspace or fly through space in general we're thinking like they go from A to B instantly but it's often some amount of days to months of time passing each time. Like in ESB as an example Han/etc. are on the run from the empire while Luke is training with Yoda, IIRC several months of time go from when they decide to go to Cloud City to when they actually get there but when watching the movie it feels like a few days.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Dec 19, 2019

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Desperado Bones posted:

Anyways my more dumb predictions for last episode:
Mando is gonna run away with his son at the end, making him being hunt down by everyone.


Oh they'd better do the classic Lone Wolf & Cub "walk off into the sunset together and leave all this poo poo behind" ending or people will riot

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
Come on Favreau, have the balls to rip the baby and Dad apart for months until season 2. Let's live a little

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Donovan Trip posted:

Come on Favreau, have the balls to rip the baby and Dad apart for months until season 2. Let's live a little

They should fully embrace serials 100% end it on a cliffhanger where it cuts to the credits as the baby is literally falling off a cliff and then in the first episode of season 2 have it begin a few seconds before that and Mando easily catches him waaay before he's anywhere even near the ledge.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Goddamn Gina Carano. :swoon:

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



My marker is down on captured babbg cliffhanger. You don't kill off your most menacing bad guy to build up Moff Fring, just to have him clowned on right away.

mcbexx
Jul 4, 2004

British dentistry is
not on trial here!



Pez posted:

I'm disappointed they didn't show Gus Fring awkwardly sliding down the cockpit of the admittedly cool TIE fighter.

When the TIE Fighter showed up I was wondering how one would disembark from it without a proper docking place, then it folded its wings down and I was "Ooooooh, neat!" only to have it dramatically open the top hatch and raising the exit platform :doh:

mcbexx fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Dec 19, 2019

G-III
Mar 4, 2001

This is a good rear end star war.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Captain Splendid posted:

Here's some concept art Doug Chiang did for the Force Awakens



Saw the TIE's wing fold and said, "About drat time."

Can't believe it's taken 30 years for someone to figure out a way for them to land and not look ridiculous.

Even the Force Awakens had them just sitting on the tops of their wings.




Owlbear Camus posted:

The Action Figure Storage Vehicle is now canon and I love it.

That got an actual laugh out of me. I had to run and check I wasn't imagining it, that it really was that toy :allears:

Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Dec 19, 2019

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



It's taken from Star Wars Rebels - so officially canon. I love them cribbing all this EU stuff. What a goddamn great show.





zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Doronin
Nov 22, 2002

Don't be scared

Desperado Bones posted:

It's gonna be torture waiting for the second season. And more if they end with Baby Yoda being taken away from Mando Dad for real, this time. Although I'm gonna laugh my rear end if the cliff hanger is Boba Fett lmao

Oh man, agree 100%. I'm going to need S2 sooner than later.


Now that I've had time to get over my irrational concern for the wee baby Yoda, some thoughts on the episode!

- I didn't think the show could actually get better, but here we are.
- This episode may have some of the best performances in any Star War
- I'm pretty sure Checkov's IG-11 chilling in the ship is about to go the gently caress off and challenge Mando's feelings toward droids
- I agree with whoever said the Scout troopers are probably in for a fight with Gideon's forces when they get back. But I wouldn't be shocked if they're intercepted by someone else (i hope it's not Boba and he's for real dead)
- IG-11 is either going to show that Quill programmed him to protect the baby at all costs, or he finally gets to use his self-destruct to save the day

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



The landing mode was cool but I'm stuck trying to communicate by the guy coming in an unescorted default rear end light fighter to make his big entrance. He's a down to earth leader? More world building showing that like an ATST a single TIE is now a big show of force post war on a fringe world?

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Dec 19, 2019

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
That isn't a stock tie fighter he's got the suicide doors bro

OB_Juan
Nov 24, 2004

Not every day is a good day.


Dinosaur Gum
Ep 7
This episode also did more to go into the "are droids people" thing that has kinda been around in Star Wars. R2 is portrayed as people, but belongs to Padme/Anakin/Leiah/Obi-Wan/Luke. L3-37 certainly thought droids are people. 3P0 seemed content to serve whatever master, and pal around with R2 when possible.

Then there's the clone wars and all those battle droids. Were they people? Property? Were the clones? How was it different, if the droids were sentient (were they?)?

Seeing IG-11 learn to live via experience seems to make him people. Will the Mandalorian see a distinction over time?

I find the semi-personhood of droids in Star Wars to be interesting.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



OB_Juan posted:

Ep 7
This episode also did more to go into the "are droids people" thing that has kinda been around in Star Wars. R2 is portrayed as people, but belongs to Padme/Anakin/Leiah/Obi-Wan/Luke. L3-37 certainly thought droids are people. 3P0 seemed content to serve whatever master, and pal around with R2 when possible.

Then there's the clone wars and all those battle droids. Were they people? Property? Were the clones? How was it different, if the droids were sentient (were they?)?

Seeing IG-11 learn to live via experience seems to make him people. Will the Mandalorian see a distinction over time?

I find the semi-personhood of droids in Star Wars to be interesting.


There is a group of seperarists droids I think in Rebels? who are still fighting the Clone Wars in their minds. They seemed pretty persony

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



TulliusCicero posted:

There is a group of seperarists droids I think in Rebels? who are still fighting the Clone Wars in their minds. They seemed pretty persony

I remember that being a decent ep. They resolve it by agreeing with the robot commander to stage a war game for whatever they were after to "prove" on a small scale the CIS lost, right?

A bunch of Hiroo Onoda stormtroopers stuck on a mostly uncontacted planet where they lost comms and any hope transport out and were forgotten but still fighting the GCW as best they can could make for a cool bottle episode of TM.

Have them repairing and re-laquering their armor as best they can from raided materials, woven wicker patches, local fauna skulls epoxied onto busted helmets.

Nail Rat
Dec 29, 2000

You maniacs! You blew it up! God damn you! God damn you all to hell!!

OB_Juan posted:

Ep 7
This episode also did more to go into the "are droids people" thing that has kinda been around in Star Wars. R2 is portrayed as people, but belongs to Padme/Anakin/Leiah/Obi-Wan/Luke. L3-37 certainly thought droids are people. 3P0 seemed content to serve whatever master, and pal around with R2 when possible.

Then there's the clone wars and all those battle droids. Were they people? Property? Were the clones? How was it different, if the droids were sentient (were they?)?

Seeing IG-11 learn to live via experience seems to make him people. Will the Mandalorian see a distinction over time?

I find the semi-personhood of droids in Star Wars to be interesting.


I feel like these are questions that won't get a satisfying answer or treatment in a property like Star Wars.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal

Donovan Trip posted:

That isn't a stock tie fighter he's got the suicide doors bro

This, he ain't some chump he's got some code blocks on the uni.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Can a skilled goon get a nice gif of the TIE landing and the wings folding in?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



They should have fanserviced us hard with it being Sabine Wren's TIE. "I liked the paint job and I kept it that way, and added the suicide doors."

Also maybe a little color in the cape to pop instead of the dull black-on-black look. (I'm talking about the armor/uniform cape, don't get ideas.)

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007

Owlbear Camus posted:

They should have fanserviced us hard with it being Sabine Wren's TIE. "I liked the paint job and I kept it that way, and added the suicide doors."

Also maybe a little color in the cape to pop instead of the dull black-on-black look. (I'm talking about the armor/uniform cape, don't get ideas.)

He can't unlock color customization until New Game+ so he's gotta complete his main quest first. Why do you think he's saying "the child is worth more to me than you can know" bro he needs the decals bro. You gotta pay attention more

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter



Vintersorg posted:

Can a skilled goon get a nice gif of the TIE landing and the wings folding in?

give me a minute

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


Nail Rat posted:

I feel like these are questions that won't get a satisfying answer or treatment in a property like Star Wars.

The problem with “are droids people?” Is that if they are the entire galaxy has been a wretched slave state for untold thousands of years, so... probably best to leave that one in your pocket.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Old Kentucky Shark posted:

The problem with “are droids people?” Is that if they are the entire galaxy has been a wretched slave state for untold thousands of years, so... probably best to leave that one in your pocket.

:capitalism:

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I don't quite understand why Werner got blasted. Was it classic imperial punishment for failure?

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Old Kentucky Shark posted:

The problem with “are droids people?” Is that if they are the entire galaxy has been a wretched slave state for untold thousands of years, so... probably best to leave that one in your pocket.

Considering they have humanoid slavery as well :yikes:

The Star Wars galaxy is really not a fun place to live

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
There's sex slaves and a whole clone slave army too and those are just the mainline pg movies

Kinda says something about us? Maybe? Yeah, best to not think about

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

Vintersorg posted:

Can a skilled goon get a nice gif of the TIE landing and the wings folding in?

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Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

TulliusCicero posted:

Considering they have humanoid slavery as well :yikes:

The Star Wars galaxy is really not a fun place to live

Anytime you see the average person living on one of those city planets it looks like utter depression.

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