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is there a bsg thread where we can talk about the expanse
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Horizon Burning posted:lmao 'they re-used cgi, frauds!' oh goons Ok I guess re-using the same cgi over and over is a good thing and the creators had no problem doing it? Also I think the hoodies in this season look kind of dumb but I also want one. They look warm.
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Dec 30, 2019 02:30
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Mu Zeta posted:Ok I guess re-using the same cgi over and over is a good thing and the creators had no problem doing it? Shows have limited budgets. Re-using ship establishing shots is a method TV shows use to preserve their budget. I haven't noticed The Expanse doing so, but it doesn't have as much pew pew effects stuff and CGI is cheaper to do now.
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Dec 30, 2019 02:33
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Phi230 posted:They need to handle future seasons more slowly rather than the breakneck pace of seasons 3 and 4.
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Dec 30, 2019 02:38
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Horizon Burning posted:BSG was a fine product of its time, but Goons have to act as if they never ever liked it lmao I liked it, and still like most of it, but the last season or whatever you want to call the half season was pretty much poo poo and I thought so a long time before I saw the Expanse. Of course, the last book isn't even out so it's not out of the realm of possibility that it all falls to poo poo at the end, we'll see. quote:They need to handle future seasons more slowly rather than the breakneck pace of seasons 3 and 4. For what happens in season 4, I can't imagine it going much more slowly and still being interesting, though I've not read the book. They already threw in a lot of pointless scenes (to this season's plot, anyway) having to do with Avasarala's election and her quarreling with the Arjun/Cotyar hybrid. Though I like Avasarala, it really felt like window dressing. What's going on with Bobbie is a little more connected if you read between the lines at all, but it really doesn't feel that way. I haven't read the books past the first and the first couple novellas, but it felt like Bobbie's plot was put there so we wouldn't forget about her and the actress would have work on the show this season. I understand how it connects to the larger plot, but I feel like more could be done to make it that way without just connecting the dots after Inaros's villain monologue. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Dec 30, 2019 |
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Dec 30, 2019 02:43
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I totally messed up what I meant by saying "God is real is a twist"; i didn't mean that in a they were on earth all along! kind of twist, but in that the show was sold on being a Sci-fi war story with serious politics and such, but actually its more about faith. Was Bobbi's story in the book? I've always gotten the impression that she was a fairly secondary characters and didn't get full plotlines, just was there with the rest of the characters when they do things.
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Dec 30, 2019 04:27
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twistedmentat posted:Was Bobbi's story in the book? I've always gotten the impression that she was a fairly secondary characters and didn't get full plotlines, just was there with the rest of the characters when they do things. She is a primary character in Caliban's War and has cameos in Edit: the cameos bookend Cibola Burn Toast Museum fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Dec 30, 2019 |
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Dec 30, 2019 04:54
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twistedmentat posted:I totally messed up what I meant by saying "God is real is a twist"; i didn't mean that in a they were on earth all along! kind of twist, but in that the show was sold on being a Sci-fi war story with serious politics and such, but actually its more about faith. Fair enough. twistedmentat posted:Was Bobbi's story in the book? I've always gotten the impression that she was a fairly secondary characters and didn't get full plotlines, just was there with the rest of the characters when they do things. Bobbi's story is a combo if the novella Gods of Risk and some new stuff for TV. She's barely in books 3 and 4 at all.
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Dec 30, 2019 05:00
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To give a broad sense of how the early books differ in focus from the show, the POV characters for the first four books are:
Nothing I'd call a spoiler for the show, but slightly spoilery if you want to read the books and go in as cold as possible.
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Dec 30, 2019 05:21
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Also worth mentioning regarding book stuff: characters cut from the book are generally reworked into existing ones, like bull and michio pa. some great show characters are barely in the books at all, like drummer.
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Dec 30, 2019 05:30
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Ah I understand now. I really should read the books, just bite the bullet and pay for the large format paperbacks.
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Dec 30, 2019 05:33
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I just watched 4 seasons of this show in about 3 weeks and holy poo poo it’s so good. I read the books and there’s so many good things to watch I didn’t bother with a SyFy adaptation but my bad, this show is amazing, although I do like the Amazon takeover episodes better. Great loving stuff. Some minor complaints mostly around casting and actors - Chrisjen for instance I find forced and grating - but those problems aren’t important the shows awesome, season 4 is a great interpretation and man I watched so many episodes in such short time I’m worried that I’ll use belt patois in a conversation.
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Dec 30, 2019 07:22
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Huh, Katoa's dad had that role in book 4/would be season 4? I know he only got one scene in season 2, but that could have actually been really interesting for him to be in that position in season 4, particularly given that they hunted down and murdered his son in season 3. Lots of stuff to work with there. I like Lucia, so it's fine that he wasn't, but...could also have been good, y'know?
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Dec 30, 2019 08:04
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EimiYoshikawa posted:Huh, Katoa's dad had that role in book 4/would be season 4? I know he only got one scene in season 2, but that could have actually been really interesting for him to be in that position in season 4, particularly given that they hunted down and murdered his son in season 3. Lots of stuff to work with there. In the books Katoa is the dead child they find in the lab on Ganymede and shortly thereafter incinerate. The chief tension of his father's plot in Book 4 is that he is wracked by guilt that he never went looking for Katoa like how Prax went looking for his daughter and that because of this his son died where he perhaps might not have. There's a lot more to his character in the book, but most of that made it into Season 4 with his stand-in Lucia. All of the interludes showing the experimentation on Io were added in by the show-runners, which really worked for the adaptation, and thus they made the hybrid be Katoa to make the hybrid fight have more impact. On that note, one of the huge differences between the first two books and the TV adaptation is how nonexistent Jules Pierre Mao is in the books. The man is mentioned a grand total of twice in Book 1, with the second time being Miller saying, "Hey kid, Julie's dad sent her a message to get out of The Belt before the Cant ever exploded...you might want to look into that." right before he cuts his radio and goes to meet Proto-Julie. In book 2, he also only makes three appearances, and I don't believe is ever on Io himself. It was kind of funny reading those books after watching the seasons because basically his entire character is a result of the show-runners fleshing him out.
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Dec 30, 2019 09:32
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OK thread, you did it. I've started reading Nemesis Games. Should be shitposting in the spoiler thread some time around February. The final book better come out at some point. I can't have another GRRM situation on my hands 
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Dec 30, 2019 10:30
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GABA ghoul posted:The final book better come out at some point. I can't have another GRRM situation on my hands Short of the authors both dying, I don't think you've got much to worry about. They've got a pretty solid track record for hitting deadlines.
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Dec 30, 2019 11:00
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Horizon Burning posted:"All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again." lol
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Dec 30, 2019 12:04
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After binging all 4 seasons in a couple weeks, I moved on to Lost in Space and yikes, its awful. I really wish they would release episodes weekly. Binging really kills show momentum and discussion and now I have to wait a year for S5.
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Dec 30, 2019 14:27
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Everyone posted:I'm looking forward to 2029 when many of the same people praising The Expanse now will making GBS threads on it by comparison with whatever the new Sy-Fy flavor is. If they make a scifi show that is as much of an improvement over The Expanse as The Expanse is over BSG I'll be erect for days.
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Dec 30, 2019 15:28
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TommyGun85 posted:After binging all 4 seasons in a couple weeks, I moved on to Lost in Space and yikes, its awful. Wait. Which is awful?
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Dec 30, 2019 15:41
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gohmak posted:Wait. Which is awful? Lost in Space
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Dec 30, 2019 15:47
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twistedmentat posted:I totally messed up what I meant by saying "God is real is a twist"; i didn't mean that in a they were on earth all along! kind of twist, but in that the show was sold on being a Sci-fi war story with serious politics and such, but actually its more about faith. Having read the first book, in the show she features at least somewhat in the Phoebe conflict. Not so in the books, she's not even mentioned at that point. Which is an issue/solution the writers acknowledge, you can't always just keep bringing new characters aboard in a show necessarily. Same as the fact Drummer is an amalgam of several characters in the books (individually, they barely warrant comment, but together, her role is significant). I would guess at least some of the major characters who have died in the book series will make it to the last season for similar reasons. quote:If they make a scifi show that is as much of an improvement over The Expanse as The Expanse is over BSG I'll be erect for days. Same, especially if you replace BSG with Firefly. For years I wanted more Firefly and now I couldn't give less of a gently caress. Jane is an absolute joke of a character compared to Amos, same with Wash to Alex and Kaylee/Zoe (take your pick) to Naomi. Holden on the other hand.... Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Dec 30, 2019 |
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Dec 30, 2019 16:27
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Imo Holden was way better this season, still the most boring of the Roci crew but I didnt hate him
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Dec 30, 2019 17:13
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Toast Museum posted:Short of the authors both dying, I don't think you've got much to worry about. They've got a pretty solid track record for hitting deadlines. Yeah, I'm expecting the last book to take a bit longer than usual but there's a good chance it'll be out in 2020. I won't be surprised if it's 2021, would be shocked if it were 2022.
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Dec 30, 2019 17:26
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GABA ghoul posted:OK thread, you did it. I've started reading Nemesis Games. Should be shitposting in the spoiler thread some time around February. Book 8 of 9 came out this year and the only year since the first book that they didn't publish a book was 2018. The longest wait was 17 months and that was before book 6. I don't think there's anything to worry about here.
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Dec 30, 2019 17:55
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The irony of the GRRM worry, considering one of the authors was GRRM's personal assistant who left to start writing these books is hilarious.
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Dec 30, 2019 19:17
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I am curious what were the outlandish tactics that fans used to save the show?
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Dec 30, 2019 19:41
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they were putting people into airlocks to teach them that air is good and so is the expanse.
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Dec 30, 2019 19:47
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Sekenr posted:I am curious what were the outlandish tactics that fans used to save the show? Probably the craziest one was someone sent a model of the Roci into space? (don't remember if it passed the Karman line) with a high altitude balloon and a camera attached. There were also planes with SAVE THE EXPANSE banners flying in circles around Amazon HQ.
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Dec 30, 2019 19:48
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Lol if you think that the show was saved for any reason other than that a billionaire wanted it
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Dec 30, 2019 19:55
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Tighclops posted:Lol if you think that the show was saved for any reason other than that a billionaire wanted it I mean I guess reverting to neo-feudalism has some perks.
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Dec 30, 2019 20:26
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Haha, so Benzos saved the show? I guess if you consider him one of the fans, being a billionaire is kind of a tactic too.
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Dec 30, 2019 21:20
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This game is going super cheap on Steam at the moment if you want yourself some realistic space combat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSoVbwyrxDk
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Dec 30, 2019 23:36
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TommyGun85 posted:Lost in Space I binged the first season when it came out, and I binged the second. I have no idea why. I like all of three characters, only one of which is human.
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Dec 30, 2019 23:56
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https://twitter.com/andylevy/status/1211182228832735238
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Dec 31, 2019 00:11
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Jack2142 posted:The irony of the GRRM worry, considering one of the authors was GRRM's personal assistant who left to start writing these books is hilarious. Did they publish the entire series before GRRM managed to get out a single book?
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Dec 31, 2019 02:52
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Orange Devil posted:Did they publish the entire series before GRRM managed to get out a single book? Leviathan Wakes released a month before the last game of thrones book.
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Dec 31, 2019 02:57
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Orange Devil posted:Did they publish the entire series before GRRM managed to get out a single book? The entire Expanse Franchise: 8 Novels, 7 Novellas, 4 seasons of TV, a roleplaying game, a board game and its expansion, a comic series, and two miniature rocinante's have all been released since GRRM's last book
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Dec 31, 2019 03:27
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Phi230 posted:and two miniature rocinante's 
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Captain Splendid posted:This game is going super cheap on Steam at the moment if you want yourself some realistic space combat I loved this game. Super fun.
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