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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

BizarroAzrael posted:

I'd actually say Drone/Shield is best, i built it myself the was backed up by a streamer. 11 points in Under Cover to get the tier 3 damage boost and all rounder shield so you barely take damage, Synchronisity and Donnybrook from Doubled Agent and the rest in Hitman for run and gun boosts and kill skills.

But I didn't use Barrier early on, Drone/Clone with investment in the latter early is probably best, just free damage boosts.

Yup, you should invest in Clone more heavily to start with. Means you're less dependent on your Kill Skills activating. Hitman investment is for when you can actually :killing:.

Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Dec 29, 2019

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BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Darth Walrus posted:

I think you should invest in Clone more heavily to start with. Means you're less dependent on your Kill Skills activating. Hitman investment is for when you can actually :killing:.

Probably the thing new players should is do the DLC as a matter of priority, at least until they get a class mod.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
Also respeccing is cheap and easy to do at any time so don't feel like the choices you're making at the early to mid levels should have to effect what you do in the endgame. Just choose whichever skills seem the best for your character at point you're currently at.

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black
Yeah early on I focus on survivability skills more than anything because you usually don't have enough skill points until level 30 or so to put together a synergy build.

Father Wendigo
Sep 28, 2005
This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Basebf555 posted:

Also respeccing is cheap
More specifically, respeccing is a flat percentage of your current cash on hand. If you want to buy or sell something and also respec, you can theoretically save some cash by planning accordingly.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.
Trying to solo a trial on mayhem 4. Killed the last boss with a minute left and HERE COMES ANOTHER HEALTH BAR. gently caress that, god drat.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Did the Takedown with a bunch of Internet randoms. I was doing Mayhem 1 with an all-orange gearset, so nothing super strenuous, but it still felt like a nice achievement, especially since I carried my team pretty hard. Double Barrel plus the Ion Cannon is just as terrifying as I thought it would be.

crestfallen
Aug 2, 2009

Hi.
Cool Moze glitch:

Get a shield with + move speed when full. Kill some dudes and get some phalanx stacks. If you’re at full health, when each individual phalanx stack decays, you’ll get the movespeed bonus. Over and over. Not sure if there is a cap. It stops either when you get damaged or when you successfully shoot an enemy, I think.

EDIT: or when you get more stacks so your shield increases, obviously.

Pretty fun. Was zooming across the map at ludicrous speed for a while. The physics get weird, you can jump sooo far.

crestfallen fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Dec 30, 2019

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Spend as much money as possible before you respec bc i think its like 10 or 20% of cash on hand

Hell go clean out marcus's vending machine and stash the junk then pull it out and sell it post respec

watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

I’m pretty sure items resell for way less than 80% of what they cost to buy

The Shame Boy
Jan 27, 2014

Dead weight, just like this post.



It's a good thing all we needed to get into Angels Core was just a voice scan because man would we have been hard stuck if we needed a full body scan like the drat casino needs to get into it's core.

strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

The UI on this game feels so lovely with mouse and keyboard I prefer to play with a controller, which is rare for an FPS. Fortunately the combat feels awesome even on a controller.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

The Shame Boy posted:

It's a good thing all we needed to get into Angels Core was just a voice scan because man would we have been hard stuck if we needed a full body scan like the drat casino needs to get into it's core.

There was also the Bunker guarding it and the deathwall before that.

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer
The Firestorm sniper rifle is hilarious. Haven’t used snipers a lot this go around but I’m using the hell out of this thing

Father Wendigo
Sep 28, 2005
This is, sadly, more important to me than bettering myself.

Joey Freshwater posted:

The Firestorm sniper rifle is hilarious. Haven’t used snipers a lot this go around but I’m using the hell out of this thing

The Storm is functionally the same thing with shock damage. If you ever felt saucy enough to do an all-ball sniper gimmick run, it's possible.

Agoat
Dec 4, 2012

I AM BAD AT GAMES
Lipstick Apathy
Are there any goons that need a copy of this game for pc but can't get it otherwise? I got a code with my cpu but Halo already came out on PC.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice
If I want to farm KillaVolt on Mayhem 4, and assuming all I have are terrible guns (because that's why I need to farm KV) what guns should I use? Is he immune to shock, or should I still bring shock to bring down his shields fast? Also, I have the most important piece of equipment, the Transformer shield, so I'm all set there =)

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Lumpy posted:

If I want to farm KillaVolt on Mayhem 4, and assuming all I have are terrible guns (because that's why I need to farm KV) what guns should I use? Is he immune to shock, or should I still bring shock to bring down his shields fast? Also, I have the most important piece of equipment, the Transformer shield, so I'm all set there =)

Because you'll be able to tank almost all of his attacks without taking any damage, use something where you can get right up close and empty the clip into his face.

Forget about shock, that's out, he's immune to it. And consider maybe dropping down to Mayhem 2 or 3 for now, until you get a few more powerful weapons. He still drops a lot of good loot at those levels, I wouldn't waste time whittling down his health in Mayhem 4 until you've got better weapons/a more fine tuned build for the job.

lazerwolf
Dec 22, 2009

Orange and Black
I've been playing through the DLC on Mayhem 3 difficulty. Seems hard enough without being a slog and I've gotten a ton of legendary drops.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004
Pretty sure his backpack is the sweet spot and not his head. When his shield is down you can also just shoot him in the dick, too.

If your aim is poo poo or you'd just rather not care, the Flakker is still overpowered imo

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Lumpy posted:

If I want to farm KillaVolt on Mayhem 4, and assuming all I have are terrible guns (because that's why I need to farm KV) what guns should I use? Is he immune to shock, or should I still bring shock to bring down his shields fast? Also, I have the most important piece of equipment, the Transformer shield, so I'm all set there =)

I think radiation is the best bet for his shield, shock-resistant shields are one of the main uses for it.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

cage-free egghead posted:

Pretty sure his backpack is the sweet spot and not his head. When his shield is down you can also just shoot him in the dick, too.

If your aim is poo poo or you'd just rather not care, the Flakker is still overpowered imo

I like that when you shoot him in the crotch, instead of "CRITICAL" is says "DICKED". Stay class BL3.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

Lumpy posted:

I like that when you shoot him in the crotch, instead of "CRITICAL" is says "DICKED". Stay class BL3.

Moxxi did tell you to shoot him in the dick, so there is a reason for that.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Is it a known bug that focused quests change willy nilly or is there likely something wrong with my bindings? They especially seem to change when a quest step is over, but also at apparently random times.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


BizarroAzrael posted:

I think radiation is the best bet for his shield, shock-resistant shields are one of the main uses for it.

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

Is there a link to a good Zane build with all the changes? I've been almost exclusively playing with Amara and FL4K.

Bummed to find out they cap you at $99,999,999.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Been killing sylestro all afternoon on m4. No luck on the driver.

:negative:

Found a couple laser-sploders those seem fun. Bunch of other stuff that I'm not sure if it's good or not.

Mr Scumbag
Jun 6, 2007

You're a fucking cocksucker, Jonathan
So now the game's been out for a few months and has presumably been balanced better, is Fl4k still considered to be the most powerful endgame character?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Niwrad posted:

Is there a link to a good Zane build with all the changes? I've been almost exclusively playing with Amara and FL4K.

Bummed to find out they cap you at $99,999,999.

Put enough in the Hitman tree to get two points in Good Misfortune. Put enough in the Doubled Agent tree to get Double Barrel. Play the DLC, and get a Seein' Dead mod and an Ion Cannon. Fill your remaining slots with your favourite legendaries - just make sure none of them have arcing fire, because your clone doesn't do well with that. There, you're done.

Mr Scumbag posted:

So now the game's been out for a few months and has presumably been balanced better, is Fl4k still considered to be the most powerful endgame character?

Zane is really, really powerful right now thanks to the DLC loot. Everyone else is still pretty good - Fl4k ate a few nerfs, but they're still dangerous enough.

crestfallen
Aug 2, 2009

Hi.

Niwrad posted:

Bummed to find out they cap you at $99,999,999.
I haven’t actually tested but I don’t think this is true. The display doesn’t go any higher than that, but it’s still keeping tabs on it. If you refill ammo or buy a gun, the number won’t go down.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Is maliwan takedown doable solo now?

unicr0n
Sep 8, 2003

crestfallen posted:

I haven’t actually tested but I don’t think this is true. The display doesn’t go any higher than that, but it’s still keeping tabs on it. If you refill ammo or buy a gun, the number won’t go down.

This is true at least when I’m playing on PS4. You still earn cash and can spend it without dropping below the $99,999,999 amount. Seems like it’s just a display limit.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

stuffed crust punk posted:

Is maliwan takedown doable solo now?

According to YouTube, people have done it. Takes twenty-plus minutes even with an incredibly optimised build, though.

Chasiubao
Apr 2, 2010


Darth Walrus posted:

Put enough in the Hitman tree to get two points in Good Misfortune. Put enough in the Doubled Agent tree to get Double Barrel. Play the DLC, and get a Seein' Dead mod and an Ion Cannon. Fill your remaining slots with your favourite legendaries - just make sure none of them have arcing fire, because your clone doesn't do well with that. There, you're done.


Zane is really, really powerful right now thanks to the DLC loot. Everyone else is still pretty good - Fl4k ate a few nerfs, but they're still dangerous enough.

If I don't have the DLC, is there anything good enough for M4? Some rando dropped me the mod that gives you boosts the less shields you have and breaks your shields when you use a skill. I assume I can build around that?

Mr Scumbag
Jun 6, 2007

You're a fucking cocksucker, Jonathan
What is the earliest you can get to and do a Circle of Slaughter?

A absolutely can't take playing through the story at this point since it's basically "Waiting for people to finish talking and doors to open: The Game". It's a waste of time and just want to kill poo poo, get loot and level up.

There is the Cistern of Slaughter in the Meridian Metroplex but the door to it is locked for me at lvl 10. According to the Internet, no one has a clue what triggers it to open and some say that for them it never does, so it may be bugged.

I've also tried matchmaking, and haven't found a single other player, let alone a group.

I just want to level and kill things without having to endure the campaign. Can you unlock the fast travel to these places by joining a player who has unlocked them?

Help!

strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

Cistern of Slaughter in the Meridian Metroplex will not open until you have progressed to Eden 6 and talked to Wainright Jakob in his mansion on the specific character and playthrough you're on. Until you do that the door will not open. I agree that the cutscense and scripted talking really get in the way after you beat the game. I wish you could skip through all of it and get to the fighting.

Judge Tesla
Oct 29, 2011

:frogsiren:

Darth Walrus posted:

According to YouTube, people have done it. Takes twenty-plus minutes even with an incredibly optimised build, though.

Not anymore, there's a special version being released today that scales to the number of players in your session.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I know at some point they announced a limited time event where the Maliwan Takedown would be scaled for people who want to do it solo or with less than 4 people. Anyone remember the date on that?

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice
Here's a stupid followup question to my previous (also stupid) one: How does one get bosses to spawn to farm them? Do I have to quit the game completely, wait 24 hours...? What's the speedy way!?

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watho
Aug 2, 2013


The real world will, again tomorrow, function and run without me.

as long as the quest is complete they should respawn if you exit out to the menu, sometimes you need to complete the first objective of the next quest if it’s a story mission

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