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Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Stux posted:

they got star citizen

The biggest SC streamer is now exclusively on Facebook's streaming service :lol:

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Stux
Nov 17, 2006

yeah but the game is in their cryengine knock off so theyre getting the big bucks

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Stux posted:

they got star citizen

sorry *intensely fidelitous cricket sounds played through a $10k sound system*

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Cardiovorax posted:

Really? That would be incredibly stupid. I mean, Borderlands 3 is natively available for PC, I can't imagine they actually plan to obtain and port the source code to Linux for every game they intend to have on their platform. Easier to run it in a stripped-down Windows environment than to go to that kind of effort.
As mentioned, Stadia uses its own Linux/Vulkan based setup that you have to port to. The lack of need to port is actually one of the interesting advantages Microsoft are taking into their service - they've been rocking up to publishers and selling them on Xcloud by showing them their Xbone games already setup and streaming to a phone without any developer intervention necessary (Although I think they've added stuff to the dev kit so devs can detect if their game is running on a phone and adjust font sizes etc. to be more legible).

Gobbeldygook posted:

You're going to have to be more specific than that. Are you talking about Amazon Underground, Amazon's program that offered free apps and paid developers based on how long people spent using them? Their purchase of Twitch, the largest game streaming site in the world? Their purchase of Curse Gaming? Amazon Game Studios, which is still making games?
Amazon Underground was sunset in 2017 and shut down completely last year. Twitch did well. Curse was just kinda smushed into the Twitch desktop client without caring. And I think Amazon Game Studios has been kind of in the dark for a while. Weren't they working on an colonial-era MMO they had to retool after people pointed out it was perhaps a bit genocide-y?

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

The Kins posted:

And I think Amazon Game Studios has been kind of in the dark for a while. Weren't they working on an colonial-era MMO they had to retool after people pointed out it was perhaps a bit genocide-y?
New World and it will be launched on May 26th. Amazon has started paying streamers to run trailers for it (not as ads that can be blocked, like the streamer pushing play and commenting as they watch it). It will probably fail because it's not WoW or FFXIV.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
Amazon Game Studios is pretty badly run I've heard. Everyone I know who's there is actively trying to leave.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

ratbert90 posted:

If the game is on the PS4 then it’s already got a BSD + OpenGL port and the effort to port the game to stadia wouldn’t be that bad.

also you already got dunked on twice for this but lol, nope. PS4 does not support OpenGL, nor does it support "BSD", the kernel might be based on FreeBSD but that's irrelevant to game devs, the entire userspace is different.

If you have a PS4 port it's probably not too costly to port to Stadia because some of the concepts are the same, but it's still a few months work of effort, you have to deal with their godawful miserable tooling, terrible devrel & support.

and from what I can tell, you cannot connect to third-party servers, because then the main advantage of Stadia, multiplayer being inside the network, is lost. and Google won't let you connect other clients to Stadia servers. so crossplay is DOA.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Rotten Red Rod posted:

The biggest SC streamer is now exclusively on Facebook's streaming service :lol:

If you are streaming a .JPG, isnt that just called image hosting?

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


quote:

Posted by u/FFXI_MOBILE_ES 1 hour ago

Why game list is not growing?

I see the same list as some months ago. I cannot see also a roadmap for games. Just always the same 20 or 30 games.

But, you... you are seeing the roadmap, the full roadmap. The same one Google employees have access too. Beautiful isn't it?

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?

shadow puppet of a posted:

But, you... you are seeing the roadmap, the full roadmap. The same one Google employees have access too. Beautiful isn't it?

The most common argument used on r/Stadia when the lack of games is brought up is basically "There's at least twenty to thirty games available right now. Are you telling us you bought and completed all of them in the short amount of time they've been available? I know I can't play that many. You're whining about nothing."

No joke. I've seen that exact defense used on r/Stadia so many times, it's mindblowing.

Tempura Wizard
Sep 15, 2006

spending all
spending
spending all my time

...! posted:

No joke. I've seen that exact defense used on r/Stadia so many times, it's mindblowing.

This and “It’s actually cool and good that we only have a few games, because having [newer and/or better games] would distract us from appreciating [older and/or worse games]”.

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

emptyquote my posts or die

Lodin posted:

Lol, I had completely forgotten that Stevia was a thing til someone on my feed retweeted this guy. I guess it is getting an exclusive?
https://twitter.com/BelgianBoolean/status/1214290368205918215?s=20

this poor guy is absolutely gonna spend 2 years making a game that never comes out and then get laid off

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

The other defense, is "but no new games have come out on other platforms either, so you aren't missing anything! New games will release on Stadia too"
Which manages to be objectively untrue and rather besides the point.

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
It's me, I'm the Stadia user who is currently down to having to force myself to enjoy Football Manager and Farming Simulator. I'm having the time of my life, you guys!

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



i still cant believe they make you pay for each game lol

ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

The whole Stadia first party thing is still so silly to me.

Google's game console/streaming service project has been in the works since at least 2016. Phil Harrison joined in January 2018 but it's not until March 2019 that a "studio" is established, half a year before the platform's launch, and then the execs immediately say "It's gonna be about 2-3 years before we can show something". Doesn't anyone find that level of pre-planning absurd?

Gobbeldygook posted:

New World and it will be launched on May 26th. Amazon has started paying streamers to run trailers for it (not as ads that can be blocked, like the streamer pushing play and commenting as they watch it). It will probably fail because it's not WoW or FFXIV.
I could see Amazon simply bundling the game subs into Twitch Prime to keep it afloat, if at least artificially.

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Polo-Rican posted:

this poor guy is absolutely gonna spend 2 years making a game that never comes out and then get laid off

getting paid google bucks to do absolutely nothing sounds like a decent vacation to me tbh

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
That guy posted career suicide so gleefully

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


...! posted:

The most common argument used on r/Stadia when the lack of games is brought up is basically "There's at least twenty to thirty games available right now. Are you telling us you bought and completed all of them in the short amount of time they've been available? I know I can't play that many. You're whining about nothing."

No joke. I've seen that exact defense used on r/Stadia so many times, it's mindblowing.

I know it's like debating a wall but come on, not everyone likes every game. For the average consumer they'll probably like 1/10th of the game library that's available so that's only 2-3 games. That's a tiny rear end library.


Tempura Wizard posted:

This and “It’s actually cool and good that we only have a few games, because having [newer and/or better games] would distract us from appreciating [older and/or worse games]”.

That's why I was asking about new stadia releases in the last page. There's really not that many new-new games coming and even still the release dates on all of them is well... Just being hopeful that they come at all!


The amount of hand waving is absolutely Olympic levels of effort.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

The Kins posted:

As mentioned, Stadia uses its own Linux/Vulkan based setup that you have to port to. The lack of need to port is actually one of the interesting advantages Microsoft are taking into their service - they've been rocking up to publishers and selling them on Xcloud by showing them their Xbone games already setup and streaming to a phone without any developer intervention necessary (Although I think they've added stuff to the dev kit so devs can detect if their game is running on a phone and adjust font sizes etc. to be more legible).

lol yeah wonder where they got that idea from

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

everyones playing catch up to king kaz who foresaw game streaming half a decade ago and got the infastructure and services in place just in case it became a thing

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Lodin posted:

Lol, I had completely forgotten that Stevia was a thing til someone on my feed retweeted this guy. I guess it is getting an exclusive?
https://twitter.com/BelgianBoolean/status/1214290368205918215?s=20

It's like watching a guy in a red shirt join Kirk and the main cast on the transporter pad. You know he's going blissfully unaware into the horrors that await.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

We have erred believing streaming gaming should make content available in more places and time. We should return to the Satellaview model and make it so you can only play at specific times the specific content that that weeks episode consists of and have to listen to low budget radio broadcast voice acting dubbed over the snippets of game.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
Nintendo has announced they will air a 20 minute Pokemon Direct airing at 9:30am EST on 1/9/20 to provide updates. What are the chances they announce Pokemon games for Stadia?

American McGay
Feb 28, 2010

by sebmojo
Source your quotes.

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde

Barudak posted:

We have erred believing streaming gaming should make content available in more places and time. We should return to the Satellaview model and make it so you can only play at specific times the specific content that that weeks episode consists of and have to listen to low budget radio broadcast voice acting dubbed over the snippets of game.

Actually Not For Broadcast looks like a really good game.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


Google should have had 5-10 nice first party games that used as many features as possible. Instead they released it and are now picking up studios and developers to produce something soon™

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?

tater_salad posted:

Google should have had 5-10 nice first party games that used as many features as possible. Instead they released it and are now picking up studios and developers to produce something soon™

That's because Google doesn't understand gaming beyond it makes money. They saw people getting the sweet gaming bucks, and they wanted to crack the market. And as has happened in different markets with different companies all trying the same thing Google is here, they will fail because you need more than just being in the space to be successful.

Bofast
Feb 21, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Stux posted:

they got star citizen

Not according to CryTek's recent filing in their lawsuit against the Star Citizen companies. Supposedly, while CIG proclaimed in public statements that they had switched to Lumberyard, they have been admitting in court statements that this was not actually the case (says CryTek, anyway).

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?
RE: I can't play Stadia at work!

quote:

Eventually companies will catch on and block stadia.google.com on their networks...

quote:

Hopefully by then we don't have a corporate shill running the FCC and that becomes illegal

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

The enlightened administration to come will at last make gaming a human right

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Petitioning the FCC to force my company to unblock pornhub dot com.

Tempura Wizard
Sep 15, 2006

spending all
spending
spending all my time
:laffo: There are a million and one reasons to be mad at Pai, but ensuring your gaming site isn’t blocked at work sure ain’t one of them.

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde

tater_salad posted:

Google should have had 5-10 nice first party games that used as many features as possible. Instead they released it and are now picking up studios and developers to produce something soon™

It's the new Sega Saturn

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde
I was thinking about the Vectrex as well, nice hardware but MB/GCE took the small handful of developers and put them to work on a tons of games that should have been ready for the console launch... Those games had a lot of love but they still came out terrible. Stadia has what? Just two games published by Google?

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Which will be the bigger shitshow in 2020, Stadia or the Atari console?

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?

...! posted:

RE: I can't play Stadia at work!

Ah yes, because back before Pai took control of the FCC, we were freely browsing porn at work, downloading viruses with aplomb, and setting up backdoor servers on our work network.

Also, I don't think these people understand what the FCC does. They would not involve themselves in what websites a company allowed their employees to access on their network.

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Cemetry Gator posted:

Ah yes, because back before Pai took control of the FCC, we were freely browsing porn at work, downloading viruses with aplomb, and setting up backdoor servers on our work network.

Also, I don't think these people understand what the FCC does. They would not involve themselves in what websites a company allowed their employees to access on their network.

Yes because the FCC are corporate patsies! A real candidate would!

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


gschmidl posted:

Which will be the bigger shitshow in 2020, Stadia or the Atari console?

Four loving hundret dollars for an atari.. At least stadia fails at $130..

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ErrEff
Feb 13, 2012

gschmidl posted:

Which will be the bigger shitshow in 2020, Stadia or the Atari console?

Hah, they just posted an update about it today.

They're apparently at CES doing closed-doors demos of the thing. Because that's what you do with a crowdfunded project like this - show it to other people, not those that pre-ordered it.

This thing is meant to be in backers' hands by March but it's still marked a "Prototype" on IndieGogo. Yep, very legit.

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