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joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Anne Whateley posted:

After. There's a lot of info they obv won't give out, but this report is still amazing

Note this gem on p. 28. You know bad they do? For most testing, that's how bad they do when (A) the guy in charge of the tests was standing right there, and (B) all the testers were using the exact same bag for all the tests

I couldn't get the link to work, but this one does

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Fritz the Horse
Dec 26, 2019

... of course!

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

I love sherry vinegar, sorghum, and gochujang. Fermented poo poo is my jam, which usually translates to "asian flavors". I try to incorporate those flavors into my food whenever I can without it becoming "asian".

gently caress bacon, and gently caress balsamic vinegar. They have their places, but they are so loving overplayed

Cool thanks. Do you prepare sorghum as a grain or use syrup or? I guess I've never had it before, I'm only familiar with it as a cover crop or animal feed in the US. Does it have an interesting texture?

I love gochujang and miso, I use them a lot. You can add some good salty, savory, slightly funky (spicy with gochujang) flavor to just about anything and nobody would know it's "asian" unless you told them the ingredients.

Fritz the Horse fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jan 4, 2020

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Fritz the Horse posted:

Cool thanks. Do you prepare sorghum as a grain or use syrup or? I guess I've never had it before, I'm only familiar with it as a cover crop or animal feed in the US. Does it have an interesting texture?

I love gochujang and miso, I use them a lot. You can add some good salty, savory, slightly funky (spicy with gochujang) flavor to just about anything and nobody would know it's "asian" unless you told them the ingredients.

We use Muddy Pond sorghum syrup. It's like a molasses that tastes like Malta. Very rich and malty.

Our wing sauce uses gochujang as the base, with molasses and other poo poo in there. It's an incredibly unique flavor, and we drizzle alabama white bbq over them. They loving rock.

Pekinduck
May 10, 2008

Thomamelas posted:

With the CDs it was much more likely that the prison guards were just being assholes. Prisons tend to ban things on a whim and often just to demonstrate they can.

Oh yeah, there was a prison that banned computer programming books so prisoners couldn't better their lives and stay out of jail learn how to hack into the prison's computer network. I'm not kidding.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xwnkj3/prisons-are-banning-books-that-teach-prisoners-how-to-code

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

TheParadigm posted:

I've heard about this! So, basically, if you have a private plane you just park and walk over to the tarmac/plane and bypass the tsa? How long would you say it takes to get onboard from pulling up, considering walking time?

I don't think you could, you'd still need a boarding pass and I believe they're scanned at security checkpoints so you can't board a plane with a boarding pass that hasn't been scanned by security. But, ultimately, there's no such thing as 100% security given enough time and effort. Given the tests the TSA has repeatedly failed, I'm guessing there are easier and cheaper ways.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


It was wild when I found out plane crews have to go through TSA. I read a story about one who had his cutlery kit taken away at security and he was just like... you know I'm the pilot, if I want to kill passengers I don't need a butter knife, right?

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Grand Fromage posted:

It was wild when I found out plane crews have to go through TSA. I read a story about one who had his cutlery kit taken away at security and he was just like... you know I'm the pilot, if I want to kill passengers I don't need a butter knife, right?

They don't have to go through the same line, they have a "known crewmember" area they get a fast track through. Similar to how airport staff have an employee access area, with much more limited screening (metal detector, xray for personal items).

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Grand Fromage posted:

It was wild when I found out plane crews have to go through TSA. I read a story about one who had his cutlery kit taken away at security and he was just like... you know I'm the pilot, if I want to kill passengers I don't need a butter knife, right?

They have an actual axe in the cockpit, too.

Hurt Whitey Maybe
Jun 26, 2008

I mean maybe not. Or maybe. Definitely don't kill anyone.

Grand Fromage posted:

It was wild when I found out plane crews have to go through TSA. I read a story about one who had his cutlery kit taken away at security and he was just like... you know I'm the pilot, if I want to kill passengers I don't need a butter knife, right?

I’m loving the idea of the pilot wanting to kill all the passengers and cutting them with a steak knife, then safely landing the plane, the thought of crashing it never occurring to him.

Fritz the Horse
Dec 26, 2019

... of course!

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

We use Muddy Pond sorghum syrup. It's like a molasses that tastes like Malta. Very rich and malty.

Our wing sauce uses gochujang as the base, with molasses and other poo poo in there. It's an incredibly unique flavor, and we drizzle alabama white bbq over them. They loving rock.

Hmm I might have to experiment with a gochujang + sorghum syrup (and other stuff) glaze for pork.

Naelyan
Jul 21, 2007

Fun Shoe

Fritz the Horse posted:

Hmm I might have to experiment with a gochujang + sorghum syrup (and other stuff) glaze for pork.

Use the gochujang when you do a slight pickle on your pork before you do whatever else you're gonna do to it. That's the poo poo right there.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Hurt Whitey Maybe posted:

I’m loving the idea of the pilot wanting to kill all the passengers and cutting them with a steak knife, then safely landing the plane, the thought of crashing it never occurring to him.
I mean he's a murderer, not suicidal.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

PT6A posted:

I don't think you could, you'd still need a boarding pass and I believe they're scanned at security checkpoints so you can't board a plane with a boarding pass that hasn't been scanned by security. But, ultimately, there's no such thing as 100% security given enough time and effort. Given the tests the TSA has repeatedly failed, I'm guessing there are easier and cheaper ways.

In my experience with this, you walk up and a concierge checks your ID and tells you you're good to go. You don't get a boarding pass because A Man's Word Is Sufficient. (they may print a boarding pass behind the desk and scan it, but you don't get one). Then you walk out to the plane with the concierge escorting you. The primary driver of time is the distance from the front door of the building to where the plane is parked.

SageNytell
Sep 28, 2008

<REDACT> THIS!

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

They don't have to go through the same line, they have a "known crewmember" area they get a fast track through. Similar to how airport staff have an employee access area, with much more limited screening (metal detector, xray for personal items).

So we had to scan this one (co?)pilot's bag through the XRay and it tested positive for fuckifiknow, so the lead officer opened the bag up. The crew scanner is a little removed from the rest of the public scanner in this checkpoints, so this guy's whole flight crew is waiting impatiently behind him while we check his bag. I don't know if the lead officer was deliberately being an rear end in a top hat (likely) or the (co?)pilot was playing a joke, but the bag contained a pile of black rubber sex toys of various varieties, not even a drat toothbrush to go with.
My scanner crew were humiliated for opening this thing, the rest of the flight crew are staring daggers at their coworker, and the lead officer is quietly being a loving homophobe to this complete stranger whose bag he has just decided to invade.

TSA is an awful organization, and I'm so glad to have not stayed there for long. Assholes still ended up losing all my hiring documentation to the OPM breach five years later, they couldn't even keep that safe.

Did get to learn that Southwest Airlines hired only inhumanly polite, cheerful robots who fear no ill weather or lack of sleep, so that was nice. They were a nice change of pace from the harassed public and the angry flight crews at 4am.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

In my experience with this, you walk up and a concierge checks your ID and tells you you're good to go. You don't get a boarding pass because A Man's Word Is Sufficient. (they may print a boarding pass behind the desk and scan it, but you don't get one). Then you walk out to the plane with the concierge escorting you. The primary driver of time is the distance from the front door of the building to where the plane is parked.

Perhaps I misunderstood the question, I was talking about going from a private airplane (like a Cessna 172, not a chartered jet or anything) to inside the terminal airside and onto a commercial flight.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



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PT6A posted:

Perhaps I misunderstood the question, I was talking about going from a private airplane (like a Cessna 172, not a chartered jet or anything) to inside the terminal airside and onto a commercial flight.

oh, maybe i misunderstood - i thought the question was how long it takes to get on a bizjet from a FBO

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.
I’ve got to fly out of MCO at the end of the month after the Rolex 24; unlikely to be going out of those gates but if we get to the airport with enough time I’ll come have dinner there.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

drgitlin posted:

I’ve got to fly out of MCO at the end of the month after the Rolex 24; unlikely to be going out of those gates but if we get to the airport with enough time I’ll come have dinner there.

My terminal exclusively services Southwest airlines, so if you are flying them you're good to go.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

My terminal exclusively services Southwest airlines, so if you are flying them you're good to go.

Can you switch terminals airside? I’d absolutely go out of my way to a different terminal for a decent airport meal.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

PT6A posted:

Can you switch terminals airside? I’d absolutely go out of my way to a different terminal for a decent airport meal.

Depends on the terminal. MCO has 2 TSA lines; if you are on the side of the airport we are on, you can go to either airside terminal after screening.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

My terminal exclusively services Southwest airlines, so if you are flying them you're good to go.

Yep, and I don’t fly SWA.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

My terminal exclusively services Southwest airlines, so if you are flying them you're good to go.

WN sucks

cinni
Oct 17, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Do you get a lot of large families coming to eat at your place? I would assume after some days at disneyworld that the parents would be too tired and harangued to keep the kids in check. Are kids running around a problem there or do you serve mostly a more adult crowd? Have you had any celebrities drop in for a bite to eat yet?

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

cinni posted:

Do you get a lot of large families coming to eat at your place? I would assume after some days at disneyworld that the parents would be too tired and harangued to keep the kids in check. Are kids running around a problem there or do you serve mostly a more adult crowd? Have you had any celebrities drop in for a bite to eat yet?

We get a boat load of families, yeah. For the most part, we have no issues with kids being rambunctious; one or two here and there, but the parent's are usually pretty good about it.

We get a pretty ok amount of celebrities. Mostly smaller time, as they are flying Southwest instead of private jets or whatever. Some notables are Bautista and Vince Neil of Motley Crüe (he looked ROUGH). A bunch of rappers and NBA players I don't remember.

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

We get a boat load of families, yeah. For the most part, we have no issues with kids being rambunctious; one or two here and there, but the parent's are usually pretty good about it.

We get a pretty ok amount of celebrities. Mostly smaller time, as they are flying Southwest instead of private jets or whatever. Some notables are Bautista and Vince Neil of Motley Crüe (he looked ROUGH). A bunch of rappers and NBA players I don't remember.

How about Orlando City SC players?, MLS mostly flies coach

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

Jack2142 posted:

How about Orlando City SC players?, MLS mostly flies coach

I'm sure we have, but I don't know any of them or really give a poo poo so

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood
have you ever considered offering Hot Grape?

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

have you ever considered offering Hot Grape?

We had it in the menu for a while, but nobody ordered anything else so we had to nix it

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.
What the gently caress is Hot Grape? Is it literally Grape Nuts prepared like oatmeal or something?

Uncle Lizard
Sep 28, 2012

by Athanatos

Coasterphreak posted:

What the gently caress is Hot Grape? Is it literally Grape Nuts prepared like oatmeal or something?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hot%20Grapes

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.
Turns out we’re flying out of Daytona, not MCO, so it will have to be next time. :(

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Cool thread. For some reason I've always enjoyed hanging out in airports (planes themselves not so much).

If this has been asked already I didn't see it but airports are usually a decent distance away from most population centers and, of course, you have the parking and security bullshit.

To what degree does working there add to your commute and overall getting to and rom work time? I'm picturing a fairly long drive, heavy traffic, parking and then TSA and all that poo poo. How much extra time does that add to your workday?

Also (if you're single) is it true that it's easy to hook up with stewardesses, pilots and overnight travelers? When they eat at your place do they get discounts or comped meals? Ever seen a pilot drink/get hammered and had to report him?

Lastly, my 3 year old son had an allergic reaction to something at a restaurant just as we were about to board the plane and that restaurant contacted us endlessly following up on it and asking if he was OK. I assume this is to avoid a lawsuit? He was fine but it was a scary flight watching his lip swell up.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

BiggerBoat posted:

Cool thread. For some reason I've always enjoyed hanging out in airports (planes themselves not so much).

If this has been asked already I didn't see it but airports are usually a decent distance away from most population centers and, of course, you have the parking and security bullshit.

To what degree does working there add to your commute and overall getting to and rom work time? I'm picturing a fairly long drive, heavy traffic, parking and then TSA and all that poo poo. How much extra time does that add to your workday?

The airport itself isn't that far away from the major population centers of the city, but I personally happen to live on the exact opposite side of town. My commute is roughly an hour both ways, with very heavy traffic; I purchased a dash cam specifically because of how crazy the drive is.

Parking is a non issue usually, as I have an access card for the airport parking garages, but hourly employees have to park in an offsite lot and shuttle in. That adds about 20 minutes to the commute, but isn't a thing I ever have to worry about.

Employees don't have to go through TSA security. Working in the airport is conditioned on passing a background check and having what's called a SIDA badge, which gives us access to secure areas. We go through a simple metal detector and xray scanner for personal items every day, but that is a matter of 2 minutes.

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Also (if you're single) is it true that it's easy to hook up with stewardesses, pilots and overnight travelers? When they eat at your place do they get discounts or comped meals? Ever seen a pilot drink/get hammered and had to report him?

I am happily married with a kid, so this doesn't apply to me, but the answer to your question is "lol". Nobody working in the airport wants anything to do with travelers outside of taking their money, and airline staff almost never eat here. We are a full service sit down dining establishment, and they simply don't have the time. If any do, however, we offer a 10% discount to any airport staff.

Pilots never drink here, I don't think they are allowed. Doesn't stop them from being almost universal assholes though.

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Lastly, my 3 year old son had an allergic reaction to something at a restaurant just as we were about to board the plane and that restaurant contacted us endlessly following up on it and asking if he was OK. I assume this is to avoid a lawsuit? He was fine but it was a scary flight watching his lip swell up.

Yeah that was liability. They were just scared of getting sued and were trying to stay ahead of it. For my part, I deliberately avoid working with peanuts anywhere in the kitchen since that allergy is so common, and maintain a binder with every common allergen present in all of my dishes. There is always a chef in the restaurant, and all of us are knowledgeable about food allergens and cross contact; we pride ourselves on being able to ensure a safe environment for those with allergies, and have actually gotten a lot of online recognition for it.

Cessna
Feb 20, 2013

KHABAHBLOOOM

Sandwich Anarchist posted:

Pilots never drink here, I don't think they are allowed.

The official FAA rule (14 CFR Part 91.17) is 8 hours between any alcohol consumption and flying, but the "24 hours from bottle to throttle" rule is emphasized in flight training.

(I'm only a private pilot, but it's the same rule.)

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Cessna posted:

The official FAA rule (14 CFR Part 91.17) is 8 hours between any alcohol consumption and flying, but the "24 hours from bottle to throttle" rule is emphasized in flight training.

(I'm only a private pilot, but it's the same rule.)

I'm gonna go ahead and say there's also a "no drinking in uniform regardless" policy by most/all employers, for obvious reasons, regardless of whether you're off-duty or not. I have no actual proof of this, it just seems likely. Many companies also have additional standards for bottle-to-throttle, and I know at least in Canada they've bumped the law across the board from 8 hours to 12 hours.

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.
Basically every major airline does regular drug screens (urinalysis) which can also detect alcohol metabolites for up to three days.

quidditch it and quit it
Oct 11, 2012


Sandwich Anarchist posted:

...There is always a chef in the restaurant...

Can you clarify this? I’m confused as to when anywhere would be running without a chef.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

quidditch it and quit it posted:

Can you clarify this? I’m confused as to when anywhere would be running without a chef.

Not all cooks are chefs.

Sandwich Anarchist
Sep 12, 2008

nm posted:

Not all cooks are chefs.

This. In this context, "chef" means sous chef or executive chef. They run the functions of kitchen manager and supervisor.

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PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood

Coasterphreak posted:

What the gently caress is Hot Grape? Is it literally Grape Nuts prepared like oatmeal or something?

okay you know grape? grape. like on the vine? cook grape. roast grape in the oven, on bire. then you have hot grape.

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