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Craptacular! posted:Rules of Engagement: Another crew-on-trial episode. This one's kind of odd because the Klingon prosecutor's evidence relies on stereotyping Klingons. Like all of this rests upon intent, and so half of his time is spent on character assassination stuff that presupposes a bigoted, Archie Bunker kind of mentality on what Klingons are like. Yeah, the Klingon lawyer's argument is pretty goofy when you think about it: "Worf committed war crimes because, like all Klingons, he doesn't care about anything but victory! That's why we, the Klingons, want to see him tried for his horrible war crimes that we find abhorrent!"
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Cheaper way of experiencing old Trek the way it used to be is watching the reruns on Heroes & Icons, which is usually an OTA station living in the standard definition subchannels of the major networks. Given how heavily compressed those signals are, there may be even more artifacts than there were in the 90s given how you got your TV.
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12 Monkeys was amazing and that is great news, but holy poo poo,bull3964 posted:What is it with star trek not holding on to show runners?
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Mooseontheloose posted:After Voyager they should of given the Trek franchise a 5 to 10 year break. Allow for new producers, new creative forces but sadly they worked the horse until the core foundation of what Trek was became lost. lol if you're using Doctor Who as a positive example. I guess it's a success in that it is still going, but...
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Has anyone else noticed what page number it is? efb
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D lightful.
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Angry Salami posted:Yeah, the Klingon lawyer's argument is pretty goofy when you think about it: "Worf committed war crimes because, like all Klingons, he doesn't care about anything but victory! That's why we, the Klingons, want to see him tried for his horrible war crimes that we find abhorrent!" I thought it was a pretty lawyerly thing though; the Empire believes in those stereotypes being good things, but is also aware of the Federation's stance on these things, and so wants to use their own scruples against them to eliminate one of the biggest thorns in their side.
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No bloody A, B, C, D, or E!
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Deanna crash the thread ! !
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An donnae ye even get started on the n or x
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HD DAD posted:Deanna crash the thread ! ! I've said before but I think Troi's record on crashing the Enterprise is a bit unfair given she's so far down on the chain of command that any time she has to assume command it pretty much has to imply some serious poo poo is going down
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postin' from cetacean ops I am not surprised Chabon moved on, he's a successful novelist and I didn't think he was about to drop that for TV. I figured Picard was a single season deal for him.
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Grand Fromage posted:postin' from cetacean ops  Plus he just inked a related deal to turn Kavalier & Clay into a series for Showtime and I’m very okay with trading a Chabon-led season 2 for that.
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Showtime is also a ViacomCBS property, so the company must have been impressed by his work.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I've said before but I think Troi's record on crashing the Enterprise is a bit unfair given she's so far down on the chain of command that any time she has to assume command it pretty much has to imply some serious poo poo is going down Well yeah one time was deliberate ramming speed and the other the helm was literally offline.
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Angry Salami posted:Yeah, the Klingon lawyer's argument is pretty goofy when you think about it: "Worf committed war crimes because, like all Klingons, he doesn't care about anything but victory! That's why we, the Klingons, want to see him tried for his horrible war crimes that we find abhorrent!" That's sort of hitting on one of the seams between TOS and TNG. Most of the "warrior race" stuff about Klingons was only developed with TNG, and back in the original series they were just a marginally more aggressive version of humans, which could've easily just been more from politics than from culture. I like to think that they fell more into barbarism in the gap between the two series, since the movies did show them being devastated by both natural(?) disasters and infighting, and by the time of TNG, Klingon fundamentalism has taken hold, to which Worf is a major subscriber, whereas within the Klingon empire, there's still extensive legal proceedings. Of course, that's probably contradicted by the prequel series, since they just wanted to play with all the toys that the franchise had set up rather than restrict themselves to setting up the original series.
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Kind of a theme is that Worf knows Klingon culture out of books, not from real-life experience, and there's some culture clashes within the Empire hinted on in the show; Martok's career was stalled because he was denied entry to the officer's school for being of common origin rather than noble birth, the geezer Klingons lament how their culture has changed and there's Klingons opening restaurants in Federation-controlled space, and the warlike turn in DS9 is implied to be a reactionary flare up. And Klingons are pretty keen on rewriting their own history to suit current values.
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Hi Star Trek thread k bye
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That makes Riker look like Lincoln without his hat
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It also makes Picard look like Clint Howard.
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Page 1701 should be hauling garbage, imo.
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The_Doctor posted:Page 1701! gently caress, you beat me to it. Of course on this topic I almost wanted to punch the screen on the "N.. C... C... 1... 7..." thing on season 1 of DISCO
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CPColin posted:Page 1701 should be hauling garbage, imo. *SCOTTY GASP*
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CPColin posted:Page 1701 should be hauling garbage, imo. Laddie. Don't ye think ye should rephrase that?
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Laddie. Don't ye think ye should rephrase that? Sorry, I meant page 1701 should be hauled away as garbage!
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Come to think of it, missed opportunity to have Alexander meet Jake and Nog.
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The Antics would have been too powerful. Much like this page.
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Star Trek is at its best when it's optimistic.
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“Here’s tonight’s worksheet.” “Oh great, two more candle sex ghosts.” 
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Insane Totoro posted:Star Trek is at its best when it's optimistic. This is probably true, but man I love it when it gets twilight zoney or body horror. TOS did it a fair bit. Or in TNG when that bug alien infests the top dudes of Starfleet, and Picard and Riker explode his head like some Scanners poo poo, man, so good.
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Origami Dali posted:This is probably true, but man I love it when it gets twilight zoney or body horror. TOS did it a fair bit. Or in TNG when that bug alien infests the top dudes of Starfleet, and Picard and Riker explode his head like some Scanners poo poo, man, so good.
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Thus far only Law and Order does RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES well and it's almost played for laughs. Can you imagine if TNG did an episode where Wesley leads Gamergate and Lieutenant Ice'T of the Klingon Special Victims Unit has to track him down?
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Insane Totoro posted:Can you imagine if TNG did an episode where Wesley leads Gamergate and Lieutenant Ice'T of the Klingon Special Victims Unit has to track him down? “You mean to tell me this guy gets off on targs?”
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:I believe the TOS remasters did alright for the studio, but it was a very different thing to the TNG ones. Please correct me if I have the details wrong: It's the other way around. For TOS the only thing they had left in a usable state was the filmreels that came out of the cameras from on set. When they scanned in the composited effects stuff it looked blurry and dirty because the process of compositing it the old fashioned way nessicarily means that the final result is a degraded Nth generation copy. You couldn't see that picking up blurry analogue tv but it was always there, and it looked really bad. It's made worse because the best copies anyone has are in the finished episodes, a lot of the effects reels turned out to either be damaged (see the TOS enterprise in that discovery opening) or missing entirely. It's not just the ship models they replaced but every single visual effect in every shot, in every scene of every episode. From scratch. And I do mean everything, even files pulled up on computer monitors or the starfield on the viewscreen. There was no choice in this at all, they either redid the entire post production or they couldn't do a remaster. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNKg3eA2ReU Where TOS-R got lucky is that it's supposed to look as lovely as people remembered it looking, so they weren't exactly spending pixar money remaking all of the effects. But the quality of the work is very uneven. In comparison TNG got their A game. HorseLord fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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Came here for the page number, found a fun remixThe_Doctor posted:“Here’s tonight’s worksheet.” Does this thing shoot out a beam from an unlicensed nuclear accelerator onboard instead of a phaser?
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Nullsmack posted:Came here for the page number, found a fun remix Unlicensed Warp Core 
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The_Doctor posted:“Here’s tonight’s worksheet.” 
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I was in a theater yesterday and i saw that Rosalind Chao is in the new Mulan live-action remake Good for her getting those Disney Dollars
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