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Lol if you think a casino cares about anyone’s personal life. Casinos only care about one thing and that’s how much money you have spent versus how much money they have spent At the casino in cleveland once I hit their top tier they would try do all types of poo poo for me and I turned most of them down. The only thing I ever accepted was free rooms to the Ritz Carlton across the street. They wanted to send me cars and fly me to Vegas to gamble at their sister casinos but gently caress all that. They expect me to gamble a lot in return. Sometimes I get to the casino and after 10 or 15 minutes I leave and I’d go to a home game or private game. If I accept their free poo poo then they expect my money in return.
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Salt Fish posted:There's no way you're up life time and the casino is giving you free hotels. I dunno man, I have read that guys stories in other threads and if he's not legit, then he's a hell of a fiction writer. Either way don't be a Debbie Downer.
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Jan 13, 2020 21:51
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My friend's mom plays the slots a lot; enough that she gets free rooms at the Borgata regularly and recently was poached by a host and goes to RW Catskills now. She keeps a spreadsheet and, between her play and the value of all the comps they give her, she usually ends up spending about $100 or so a visit. Which honestly isn't that bad of a deal for a weekend's getaway/entertainment. I think a big factor is that in the greater tri-state area, there's so much casino competition that they are gonna go that much further to get your business. Off the top of my head, there are about 6 casinos within a 2 hr~ drive of where I live. I can't imagine they are that eager to give out such rewards in rural America where there are fewer options.
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Jan 13, 2020 22:18
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Earth Table posted:My friend's mom plays the slots a lot; enough that she gets free rooms at the Borgata regularly and recently was poached by a host and goes to RW Catskills now. Is RW Catskills still making GBS threads itself to death? Last I heard they sold off half their slot machines. I’m planning on going for a weekend soon because hotel rooms are 50 a night, but things weren’t looking good for that place.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Is RW Catskills still making GBS threads itself to death? Last I heard they sold off half their slot machines. I’m planning on going for a weekend soon because hotel rooms are 50 a night, but things weren’t looking good for that place. I stayed over there a few days before Christmas because of a sale. It was pretty dead, but it's honestly a pretty nice place. The casino is smoke-free and the staff is super friendly. The steakhouse is overpriced* as most casino restaurants are (still good tho), but it was pretty great to get a suite and dinner with my fiance for a lot less than other places. I would recommend it. I honestly feel bad for the employees because the place itself is nice but I think there is just too much closer competition for most people in the Northeast. *another topic I'd love to talk about is the bliss of eating an overpriced casino steak when you're drunk and got a nicotine buzz. It's one of my favorite things.
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double post: they also match almost any other casino's offer. I called them after Borgata offered me two free nights and I got a free stay. Might be worth giving them a call and seeing if you can get a free room.
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We walked past this lady that screamed at us for picking up one of her slot tokens about 10 feet away and she was too busy slamming more tokens into the slot to get it from us so we just dropped it and kept on going. That was like 10 years ago, she's probably still glued to that chair today.
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Earth Table posted::. Yeah, the only real reason I’m going to that one instead of Mohegan is that it’s so goddamn cheap. E:just thought of a form of gambling I haven’t seen in years- any of you guys ever play bar dice? You pay a buck at the bar and basically play yahtzee, if you get five of a kind you win the accumulated pot. Usually you can only play once a visit. I saw it all the time in NYC but haven’t seen it anywhere else. Ugly In The Morning fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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Jan 13, 2020 23:00
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ArbitraryC posted:Yeah I get that I'm absolutely not saying the employees have any obligation or even plausible methods of dealing with this I think it's sort of just a good example of an inherent flaw in the industry that basically any casual observer wouldn't be surprised if she spent all her money then ate a gun in the parking lot. There's no real tangible solution there its just visibly wrong and ethically irresponsible to still be taking that women's money and a clear indictment of how casinos are ran. this is explicitly the business model of casinos, op. they're morally indefensible
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Yeah, the only real reason I’m going to that one instead of Mohegan is that it’s so goddamn cheap. a ton of bars in rural Wisconsin have this. in fact some of them have multiple shakes of the day all with their own weird rules. anything from "3 shakes without any aces" to "11 dice and you have to get 8 of a kind". a lot of places will toss in free drinks for full houses & 4 of a kind, stuff like that. maybe a WI thing but "bar dice" is a different thing, it's basically a game played with 2+ people and the bartender where the players get eliminated one-by-one and whoever remains in the end has to buy shots for everyone. if the bartender loses then its shots on the house. so its +EV in that sense but kind of -life EV because whoever loses generally wants to 'bring it back' so you wind up taking like 3-5 shots for no good reason
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Please don’t start discussing the ethics of gambling. We know it’s a scourge. This is the thread for stories. Edit: Bar gambling is fun. My first time playing live poker was a bar tournament, which I won. Got a $50 drink certificate written on a piece of receipt paper and me and my friends got a lotta shots that night. Sadly they got shut down because the entry fee was “buy one drink to play”. I still haven’t been able to find any other bar poker around here My experienced friend kept coming to check my stack and would whisper “shove or fold” when I was under like 20bbs lol. It worked out. Tetramin fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jan 13, 2020 |
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Earth Table posted:My friend's mom plays the slots a lot; enough that she gets free rooms at the Borgata regularly and recently was poached by a host and goes to RW Catskills now. So she's adding up the losses as if she'd paid full price for everything comped? Lol that doesn't mean she's paying $100 for a nice weekend. Or, if she's saying she only loses $100 gambling total but plays machines a lot she's a liar.
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Salt Fish posted:There's no way you're up life time and the casino is giving you free hotels. First, let me clarify a few things. Casinos give you free poo poo whether you are up or down as long as you are spending money the more you spend the more free stuff you get. If you are up a lot with that casino (which they will track with your card) you will tend to get more free poo poo so they can get you back into the casino and lose it. JaySb might be able to shed more light on that or if I am wrong please correct me. I can only go by my personal experiences with the casino in Cleveland. Lifetime I am down in Craps, roulette and betting on sports how do I know this. I keep very detailed spreadsheets for my taxes. Plus there was a bet on football thread that had most of my football bets posted in it when I first started and I lost a poo poo ton of money. The MMA thread they named after me on this forum I would guess even after winning close to 30k a few times I might still be down I would have to look but you can track each bet in there. Poker I am up lifetime as of 2015, before that I was down since the first day I started playing. Granted I have been steadily going onto higher stakes so that has helped me get back to being up. Gambling on Pool I have never been down lifetime and most likely I never will be because the amount I play has been significantly reduced as I get older and most of my gambling now is on poker. I only dust off the pool stick when I feel like being a cocky rear end in a top hat. Since day one posting here I have always been honest about my winning and losing because honestly, I don't even care if I lose anymore it's just part of my regular life. I have never played the slots or blackjack or any other game for that matter in a casino because I see absolutely no value in those other games. Craps and roulette is a big thrill for me because I love sweat.
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jase1 posted:First, let me clarify a few things. I’ve read a thread or two of yours, and you say your uncle bankrolled you to get started, but I gotta ask do you come from money or did you have some sort of cushion? I lived off playing poker for like 8 months and it was the most stressful time of my life, but I might do it if I had a whole lot of money.
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Goodbye Dinah posted:I've been working as a croupier for about three years now at a tribal casino in Michigan. A few months ago we had a woman named Jenny, who is the Midwest version of a high roller regular, come in to play baccarat. She was always dressed nicely and had a mild and sweet personality. Our main floor baccarat tables have a maximum limit of $5k per hand and she was betting the maximum at my table for a good chunk of the day. She bounced around between tables throughout the day, so I didn't see all of her action, but this was all normal and she was acting calm and seemed to be having fun. The shift began to change and the evening floor manager came over to log into the table. He started making small talk and asked Jenny how she's doing. She casually responded "I'm homeless. My husband left me because I bet all of the money. I live here now." The floor manager and I were a bit taken aback by both the statement and her light hearted tone. I asked around and found out that the night before she'd been in playing bacc and her husband had come in to try to drag her out of the building, which want uncommon. She had refused. He left, then came back a bit later and walked up to her (still playing) and silently set his wedding ring, which was broken in two, and a cell phone in front of her on a live game. Then he left. She spent the next five days at the casino. She had a reserved blackjack table in the high limit room and had us open high limit baccarat for her, which has a $10k max bet. The first couple of days she was wearing the same clothes she arrived in, after that she wore a sweatshirt and sweatpants from the casino gift shop. She ended her bender down about $600k. I have a friend in surveillance who said she deviated from her regular play style on blackjack in ways that made them wonder if she was trying to lose, and they were speculating about that before they even knew about the drama with her husband. We haven't seen her back since. I dealt to her on three of the days she was there. It was pretty wild to watch. Gambling addicts are always the saddest thing. My step dad had a regular in his high stakes home game that they had to ban because he wouldn't stop coming over, losing all his money, then freaking the gently caress out cursing out everyone before showing up again the next week. Eventually the guys wife came over and plead for the money back because they were elderly and on a fixed income, so the guys got together and set her up with 20k dollars in an account just for her, basically all the money the guy lost in the game over the last year or so. They didn't hear from the guy for a month until he showed up randomly to the game with 5k in his pocket. They wouldn't let him in, they texted the wife, she said holy poo poo, checked the bank account, still had the money. So they're all trying to figure out how he got the money, meanwhile the guy goes down to AC and blows it all that night. They find out later he borrowed from his daughter saying that the mom needed to pay off medical bills. Just loving brutal for that family. The guy pretty much never gambled before he retired and then blew through everything within a few years due to his new found hobby.
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Tetramin posted:I’ve read a thread or two of yours, and you say your uncle bankrolled you to get started, but I gotta ask do you come from money or did you have some sort of cushion? I lived off playing poker for like 8 months and it was the most stressful time of my life, but I might do it if I had a whole lot of money. Long story short is. Parents booted me when I was officially 18, they are terrible people and have proven over and over again they want no part of my life. They reappeared when I went through my bladder cancer scare a few years ago but proved once again they were pieces of poo poo. My uncle bankrolled me to start once I was on my own he taught me how to save money and also keep a bankroll and stuff for emergencies. When I got a bit older I worked for a small auto finance company. I had saved over 200k from shooting pool and just had it sitting in a money market account from and I bought the finance company from the owner looking to retire. After a few years I sold it to a New York company for over 7 figures and I retired at 40 and moved to Florida. Then in 2018 after almost drinking myself to death (I’m basically a functioning alcoholic) and the cancer scare I took out a sizable bank loan and bought a small marina and restaurant. So while I have money it’s all started from my gambling. My money from my companies have never crossed into my gambling bankrolls. I refuse to let those 2 mix. I have a 200k bankroll right now and if it ever gets down to 100k I pull out the pool stick and get it back to 200k. Not once in my life have I ever touched a paycheck from any places I worked for gambling. That money goes into the bank and is strictly for bills and stuff like that. If my bankroll goes over 200k I take the extra and put it in other accounts for various things or I put it in the stock market. I also have 1, 5, and 10 year cds that I continually add money to every year and I will keep those going so at any point in my life I have money at the end of year I can get access to in case of any emergency. A lot of times I buy my wife stuff with my extra money from bankroll because she puts up with a lot of my poo poo. Sometimes I go on gambling binges for a few days and she knows I’m not coming home until I’m done. She puts up with a lot but at the same time she lives a pretty easy going life where money never matters. Plus she knows even if I lose I’m probably coming home with a bunch of cool stuff for her.
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Jase, do you play Big O/PLO or any Hi-Lo variants? Also, how do you feel about straddling UTG or on the button?
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SilvergunSuperman posted:So she's adding up the losses as if she'd paid full price for everything comped? Alls I know is what she told me and I'm not about to take some middle-aged woman's chrome book to verify gambling activity lmao But you make a point in the sense that degens tend to inflate their wins and deflate their losses when talking to people so
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I play a 5-10 mixed plo/nl with a forced button straddle game once a week most of the other games are 2-5 plo or nl depending on what I can find. I also play like a weird 7 card stud game that has several straddles and an ante. I straddle every single time I’m allowed especially if it pisses other players off. I assume and have been told a thousand times it’s a bad play but I don’t give a poo poo I like making the pots bigger anytime I can.
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Salt Fish posted:There's no way you're up life time and the casino is giving you free hotels. Casinos like to chase their losses too. Also plenty of hotel rooms in Vegas. Takes less than you think to get a room comped. At the track last year this old guy was on the ground having a heart attack. I was like holy poo poo I guess I'm skipping this race, and they were like nah nah nah come on who do you want. So I got 50 on Misty Prancer while the EMTs are buzzing around this dude dying 10 feet from me. Felt dirty as gently caress, but that horse was a lock.
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jase1 posted:I straddle every single time I’m allowed especially if it pisses other players off. Welp
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Baddog posted:Casinos like to chase their losses too. I was waiting to play poker once for over an hour and a guy had a heart attack at the table and croaked. While they were covering the guy up after the emts performed cpr they seated me at his seat. I lasted 10 minutes before it hosed with my head and I left. I felt so loving dirty after that.
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jase1 posted:I play a 5-10 mixed plo/nl with a forced button straddle game once a week most of the other games are 2-5 plo or nl depending on what I can find. I also play like a weird 7 card stud game that has several straddles and an ante. Nice, I love the spite straddle. I feel like people feeling the need to defend their straddle might turn it into a negative play, but who gives a gently caress. Bigger pots is always better for the game. The only people playing stud in Florida are all pushing 75+ years old. It still would be a nice change of pace though.
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jase1 posted:Long story short is. Parents booted me when I was officially 18, they are terrible people and have proven over and over again they want no part of my life. They reappeared when I went through my bladder cancer scare a few years ago but proved once again they were pieces of poo poo. My uncle bankrolled me to start once I was on my own he taught me how to save money and also keep a bankroll and stuff for emergencies. When I got a bit older I worked for a small auto finance company. I had saved over 200k from shooting pool and just had it sitting in a money market account from and I bought the finance company from the owner looking to retire. After a few years I sold it to a New York company for over 7 figures and I retired at 40 and moved to Florida. Then in 2018 after almost drinking myself to death (I’m basically a functioning alcoholic) and the cancer scare I took out a sizable bank loan and bought a small marina and restaurant. That’s cool thank you for sharing. Seems like a smart approach to gambling if you’re good. I was hanging by the skin of my teeth playing 2/5 for months(had a reasonable roll, but was taking everything above that as a paycheck). I wasn’t good enough to move up to 5/10, at the time it sucked but it was fun only “working” Thur-sat just wrecking drunk people.
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Ok the person you replied to was responding about a comment regarding pool. I didn't realize it needed you to state, in the casino/gambling stories thread, that poker takes more skill than roulette, but thanks. Your welcome.
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Jan 14, 2020 02:37
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I think the point is that in skill games there are a few people who are legitimately up, whereas everyone who claims to be up in chance games is wrong/lying.
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One of the casinos I worked at would make more money in tax write-offs by giving the rooms away than by charging for them so I'm sure 90% of the rooms at all times at that place were comped. Slots My first job in the casinos was working security, and at the time the casinos would close at 2:00 AM and re-open at 8:00 AM (It coincided with the liquor laws at the time which are now 24/7, like the casinos) and we would go through the casino throwing away no less than a dozen lucky rabbits feet and Buddha statues left at the machines every night. We would also take the tickets left in the machines out and bring them to the cage. Many were just a few pennies, but some would number in the hundreds. I don't know who leaves $200 in a machine but twice I pulled that amount from the machine. One night I brought over $800 in tickets to the cage. Of course we weren't allowed to keep them but god drat do people just leave money sitting there. If you're wondering why people don't just walk around casinos trying to pull these tickets its because that's illegal technically it's someone else's money even if they leave the casino and surveillance will definitely see you doing it. I personally find slot machines boring and repetitive, though some of the penny slots (lets not kid ourselves, quarter slots at least no one loving plays one penny at a time) can be interesting. The one thing I would never do if I played slots is play one with a progressive and not play maximum bet. I have seen several people miss out on thousands of dollars because they bet one unit instead of 3 or 5. One I fondly remember is a progressive that sat at $700,000 building for months because no one hit it. Finally someone hit the jackpot, but only bet 25 cents instead of a dollar, and won $25,000 instead of the $700,000. I think I saw all five stages of grief in the span of 30 seconds from that person: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Always, always play maximum on a progressive. I have personally seen people hit back to back jackpots (they make you spin after you win to clear the reels, and sometimes it hits again) and apparently back-to-back-to-back has happened before. When working as a dealer I was standing at a dead table and a regular approached me asking if I had seen any hot machines lately. Obviously machines are never "hot" or "due" as the randomizer is always tumbling (if you leave a machine and someone sits at it and hits big it doesn't mean that would have happened to you, it's all about timing), but I was like, "I haven't seen that machine hit big in a while it's due" to the guy. Sure as poo poo, 30 minutes later he hits the $80,000 progressive and tipped me $2,000 on a lucky guess. I asked him if that puts him ahead he said he would be surprised if that put him even. Casinos love it when people hit big on progressives because most of that money is put in by players but it causes people to flock to a casino in hopes of hitting it big as well. We had a $750,000 jackpot hit and for the next week the casino was visibly busier. Most of the people I have seen hit jackpots put it all back in over time, so it's never a loss for a casino when they hit, it's just free marketing. As far as cheating the machines you can look up several methods online that people used to use, none of which would work today, but my favorite was still the light wand, which was a thin wand with a light attached at the end. Someone would slide the wand into the machine and the light would trip the counter and make it start counting up credits thinking someone was dropping quarters into it. Getting caught with a cheating device in Vegas is a class B felony worth 1-6 years in prison even on a first offense, they do not take cheating lightly in any casino. I worked at a lovely casino in Central City as a dealer with full-split on tips (which blows major rear end, you make no loving money if it isn't keep-your-own), and the death blow to that casino was when this happened: https://www.aol.com/2010/03/31/will-casino-have-to-pay-up-after-denying-woman-43-million-in-wi/ I was working that night and watched it happen when I was on break. A machine malfunctioned and said that a woman had won $43 million dollars. Malfunctions void all payouts (it even says this on every machine) and there was no way she was getting that (the casino would have easily gone bankrupt as it's total value was about $10 million) but the damage was done. The max payout was $250,000 but word got around and morons who couldn't process that there is no loving way a casino in Colorado had a $43 million jackpot stayed away. That place became a graveyard for weeks and I quit because it sucked rear end. It was sold not long after. That's about all I remember from slots, want to talk a lot about Blackjack next.
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jase1 posted:I was waiting to play poker once for over an hour and a guy had a heart attack at the table and croaked. While they were covering the guy up after the emts performed cpr they seated me at his seat. I lasted 10 minutes before it hosed with my head and I left. I felt so loving dirty after that. I thought that was pretty bad until I read the dead guy CPR seat story. E: do you play pool regularly to keep the skill or can you really stop playing for awhile and just start playing at a high level? I have known a couple world class pool players, but they played constantly to stay sharp. So much so that one of them actually bought his own pool hall here in Pittsburgh. And if I am playing cash it’s 1/3; I don’t generally straddle but watching people passively aggressively losing their poo poo because someone is constantly straddling their big blind is usually pretty entertaining.. Oswald Kesselpot fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Jan 14, 2020 |
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I've been kinda avoiding this thread. Thinking of stories. God where to start. I dunno I had a few in my Cocktale Waitress thread. At least my stories aren't lies, you are right about gamblers lying about being up or down. Roughly- no one is up moneywise who plays slots EVER. If slots is smth they do they are a loser, period. The only exception is maybe those who hit for millions. Otherwise, the say 30k hit, whatever it is really unless multiple hundreds of thousands It's gone within months I was a lovely but tight female poker player before the big boom (so ironic, I played from 1991 to about 2003) I survived because I was making 50k a year and a young cute white woman which was rare af playing poker then. The poker world is SO SMALL I'm not going to say more. Then around 2001 I started dating a real degenerate gambler guy who did it all including slots. Goodbye life. Snorting coke while playing slots is a good time when you are young, for a while. Boozing is what is so bad. Man, I can't tell these stories, they are too awful. I'll say this. I never won a jackpot more than 4 grand. It's weird considering how much I blew just on slots, had to be a quarter million lifetime, probably more. I stopped gambling a few years ago but it's too late, I wasted my life. A woman only has so many years.
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I just saw my username oh god It's a shortening of my old one, "Spinster," NOT a gambling reference Altho 
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Spinz posted:Cocktale Waitress 
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It would be great if you could tell us some stories. I think I read that thread you are referencing and I loved those stories. If it’s to much to dig up I understand. Maybe some stories about other degenerates you knew?
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🎵Not penistales or Johnson tales but cock tales a-woo-oo🎵
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jase1 posted:It would be great if you could tell us some stories. I think I read that thread you are referencing and I loved those stories. Hi Jase What an honor no poo poo lol
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I will think on it at work tomorrow and add some new content within a few days. Here's my old thread It does start with the time I was dosed at a card room, and there are some gambling related stories scattered around in it (sort of.) Note: that first story and bottom of page 5 and page 6 for gambling stuff. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3827057 Spinz fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jan 14, 2020 |
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Spinz posted:I've been kinda avoiding this thread. I am so glad you aren't anymore. 
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Salt Fish posted:There's no way you're up life time and the casino is giving you free hotels. If you are up, you make large bets vs the house and happened to have been lucky. Past luck has absolutely nothing to do with anything in the future, and every dollar bet is pure profit for the casino (averaged over many dollars bet). A previously lucky person who makes big bets and a previously unlucky person who makes big bets are equally desirable (if anything the one with more money that can keep betting longer is better).
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A big win is the worst thing that can happen to a gambling addict, they definitely want you to stick around while you're high off the win and think you're super lucky /skilled.
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After working in casino surveillance for a couple years and being on the casino floor for 10+ years I realized all of my stories are just depressing as hell. Some of them were funny in a hosed up broken way, but overall it's still depressing. We had a guy jump off a 6 story parking garage and live. He dragged himself to the elevator and did it again. That time he did not live. I've seen broken bones, people throwing up, people making GBS threads their entire body weight all over carpets and slot machines. People dying or having seizures on the table. People drowning in the pool, women being sexually assaulted at a blackjack table. Once you pull back the curtain it's just a hosed up existence and not glamorous for anyone involved. Stay away from casinos or just play poker. Poker rooms can still be depressing, but it doesn't come close to a $5 BJ table at 3am on a Wednesday.
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