|
I am not much of a writer so I’ll just say my best poker room story was in Reno. Guy(bald) was getting pissed about the dude to my right taking his $5 pots. The guy on my right just kept slicking back his full head of hair at him until baldy jumped the table to try and fight. Casino security escorted baldy away until bringing him back like 10 minutes later when the guy immediately resumed taunting him lol. He tried to fight again, got escorted away along with his bully, they both came back after 5 minutes to keep gambling. That was in the poker room at silver lodge or something like that, there was 2 tables going max that I saw even on a Saturday. They probably couldn’t afford to just chuck people out. This was a Friday On Saturday a guy took $100 from me and bought me a massage. During that I doubled up off him, then I doubled up again 2 more times from him in an hour or two Tetramin fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Jan 14, 2020 |
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 08:08
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 27, 2024 07:19 |
|
|
I won a thousand bucks from a slot machine that helped pay for half my road trip to the west coast. That's my amazing gambling story.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 08:10
|
|
|
I'm at a casino RIGHT NOW. We're closed and it's just me and my employee sitting outside bullshitting and playing on our phones. The big neon sign hums so loud.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 08:39
|
|
|
I Brake For MILFs posted:
christ 
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 10:17
|
|
|
jase1 posted:I straddle every single time I’m allowed especially if it pisses other players off. its true that opting into the Super Big Blind is not a great play but intentionally making -EV plays like that does great things for your image. either you wind up becoming the focus of the table or the other players start straddling too which is great if you're skilled at short stack poker, since it essentially shrinks everyone's effective stacks in half. though it also seems to disproportionately effect the PFR size - I've seen 1/3 games where the usual raise was $15 or so, but when the straddles started people would just bump it to $50 right off the bat because now it's an action game personally I like straddling because it keeps me more involved. as someone who plays online a lot, going from getting ~400 hands an hour online to say, 20 or 30 at a live table makes me feel pretty bored, especially if nobody likes to talk. it's easy to go 2+ hours with only one or two playable hands. straddling at least keeps some excitement in the game.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 13:51
|
|
|
I feel dumb but..What....is.....straddling. I know a bit about casinos and gambling but not poker, so explaining those details out in stories helps non poker players like me get what you mean. Oh, uh content, I got 4 2's dealt to me in Pai Gow right as 2020 began at midnight and the Asian dude at the table refused to let me leave because I was "good luck". Even though I think we all lost like the next 4 hands lmao. One thing that was frustrating/depressing was that you'd be watching a pai gow or blackjack table waiting for someone to go out so you could maybe take a spot. They'd sit down with a few hundred, throw it down and play for a bit. That guy puts down $500, 45 minutes later its gone and he's salty as hell about it. I get out my hundred to get ready as he looks around and begins to stand up. HAHA just kidding he was just adjusting to grab ANOTHER wad of hundreds to put down again, and I sit in disappointment yet again as the cycle repeats itself. Just get all the money out the FIRST time dammit  But its depressing because they just throw good money after bad, every time at these tables.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 16:03
|
|
|
How does Pai Gow work? Never heard of it before!
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 16:11
|
|
|
PepsiOverCoke posted:I feel dumb but..What....is.....straddling. Straddling is when you're "under the gun" (first to act preflop, so the big blind is immediately to your right) and put in 2x the big blind before the cards are dealt. The benefit to doing this is that you get last action instead of the big blind, so if you get a big hand you can crank it up and win more than you normally would. It also makes bad players upset which is also a bonus (straddling is by definition a -EV move so you should be happy to see other people do it) A Strange Aeon posted:How does Pai Gow work? Never heard of it before! You get 7 cards which you have to divide into a 5-card hand and a 2-card hand. If both your hands beat the dealers hands, you win 95% of your bet. If they both lose, you lose it. If one wins and one loses, it's a push. I like this game a lot because half the hands result in a push so you can make your money last a while. Also, it seems to attract an interesting crowd. (it's also the game where I've seen the dealers make the most mistakes)
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 16:24
|
|
|
Spinz posted:I will think on it at work tomorrow and add some new content within a few days. I remember reading this and I always wanted to ask, when you talked about the 10/20 and 20/40 games you were referring to limit, correct? Idk if NLHE was played back in the 90s.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 16:26
|
|
|
In cash games for poker, there is a small blind and big blind which are basically forced antes to keep the action going. Some casinos allow you to straddle which means putting out twice the size of the big blind. So my usual cash game the big blind is $10 and I can straddle on the button $20. So the starting wager to enter that hand is now $20 it helps increase the size of the pot. The button usually references who the dealer is that round and how the cards are dealt, keep in mind there is an actual dealer dealing out the cards this is just the positions in which the cards are dealt. So the dealer is the button the small blind is next and the big blind is after the small blind. Some casinos let you straddle after the big blind as well and not the button that can lead to some serious action if the casino lets you keep the straddles going. I have played in a few home games with no max buy-in where the straddle went around the whole table of 9 players and that was a crazy game. It was a 1/3 mixed PLO/NL and by the time the straddle got to the button the amount to get in the hand was $384. I loving loved that game because half the people hated playing in it because they could only by in for like $500 and I would sit down with 5k and just bully them into submission. That was my old bookies game and we were really close friends so I would use a lot of my poker winnings to feed my sports betting with him. So I could show up to his game and play with whatever balances I had in sports betting account. Or if I had a really good session I would just have him leave it on the books and use it to either pay my balance at the end of the month or keep me on credit for his poker game. After I crushed it in MMA betting he finally cut me off and I had to find a new bookie.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 16:31
|
|
|
JAMOOOL posted:You get 7 cards which you have to divide into a 5-card hand and a 2-card hand. If both your hands beat the dealers hands, you win 95% of your bet. If they both lose, you lose it. If one wins and one loses, it's a push. I like this game a lot because half the hands result in a push so you can make your money last a while. Also, it seems to attract an interesting crowd. (it's also the game where I've seen the dealers make the most mistakes) Interesting, are there situations where the 2 hands you make lose, but might have won if you'd arranged them differently? Does the dealer have an obligation to arrange their hand in a certain way, kinda like how a blackjack dealer has to stand on a certain value?
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 16:36
|
|
|
jase1 posted:I have played in a few home games with no max buy-in where the straddle went around the whole table of 9 players and that was a crazy game. my home game is like this. granted it's only .25/.50 but it's still funny how people are kinda trying to win in the first hour and then in the last hour it's like, 3-4 straddles on every deal & someone rebuying every other hand. I lost $320 one night which is honestly a pretty impressive amount to lose in 5 hours in a game with a 50 cent big blind A Strange Aeon posted:Interesting, are there situations where the 2 hands you make lose, but might have won if you'd arranged them differently? Does the dealer have an obligation to arrange their hand in a certain way, kinda like how a blackjack dealer has to stand on a certain value? I don't know if there are any situations where a loss could've been a win unless you're just randomly breaking up pairs or whatever. There are plenty of situations where a loss could've been a tie or a tie could've been a win if you'd done it differently, for example a hand like KKQ9976 which you can do a number of things with. I don't really remember what the optimal strategy is, it's been a long time since I've played (the casinos in Wisconsin don't spread it anymore, idk if it's because people don't like it or because it's not as profitable as the other table games) but I do think there's a laundry list of rules for how the dealer has to play
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 16:58
|
|
|
Yeah the Last Few Hands of the Night are always insane. It’s just boring to fold fold fold and then get up and leave, so everyone comes up with some excuse to play.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 17:02
|
|
|
JAMOOOL posted:I remember reading this and I always wanted to ask, when you talked about the 10/20 and 20/40 games you were referring to limit, correct? Idk if NLHE was played back in the 90s. Limit, correct
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 17:11
|
|
|
Salt Fish posted:There's no way you're up life time and the casino is giving you free hotels. Comps are based on your theoretical loss, not your actual win/loss. So if you go in and bet $500/hand for 4 hours, there's some algorithm that tells the casino what your loss should be over an extended period of time. You earn comp dollars based off that + your time played. So, win or lose, yes you can get free hotels etc. Also Vegas specifically has about a billion rooms so they're trying to get to max occupancy as much as possible (casinos don't make money on hotel rooms)
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 17:42
|
|
|
I sometimes go to Vegas for the Super Bowl with a friend of mine and always make some dumb prop bets. In 2014 (Broncos-Seahawks) the longest odds were 5000-1 for either team ending up with a final score of 2 (well, they also had 9999-1 for either team ending up with a final score of 4, but that's a sucker bet and I like to stick with solid investments!). So I put $50 on each team. Obvious joke bet. The first score of the game was a safety by the Hawks. Probably the only time in Super Bowl history any team had a score of exactly 2 at any point in the game. Of course I knew it wouldn't last and it didn't, but it was a hell of a high knowing I had a shot at $250k for 20 minutes or so. I bought a lot of drinks for people during that 20 minutes, so it ended up being a pretty expensive bet for me, but the fun was more than worth it.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 17:44
|
|
|
A Strange Aeon posted:Interesting, are there situations where the 2 hands you make lose, but might have won if you'd arranged them differently? Does the dealer have an obligation to arrange their hand in a certain way, kinda like how a blackjack dealer has to stand on a certain value? Your "bigger" hand of 5 has to be better than your smaller hand of 2. So its possible to lose when you could arrange to a push because you have to abide by that rule instead of pushing your pair to your small hand.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 18:02
|
|
|
jase1 posted:In cash games for poker, there is a small blind and big blind which are basically forced antes to keep the action going. Some casinos allow you to straddle which means putting out twice the size of the big blind. So my usual cash game the big blind is $10 and I can straddle on the button $20. So the starting wager to enter that hand is now $20 it helps increase the size of the pot. The button usually references who the dealer is that round and how the cards are dealt, keep in mind there is an actual dealer dealing out the cards this is just the positions in which the cards are dealt. So the dealer is the button the small blind is next and the big blind is after the small blind. Some casinos let you straddle after the big blind as well and not the button that can lead to some serious action if the casino lets you keep the straddles going. As someone who would be buying in for a low amount, this would absolutely infuriate me and why I can't ever play actual poker. The one time I went to play poker at a casino I ended up getting mega pissed off because I don't have a lot of money, so going to the poker table instead of the craps table is a big deal for me. My cousin really liked poker so we ended up getting seated at different tables even though he wanted to show me how to "properly" play. I know the rules, but I don't know all the terminology of what you're "supposed to do" in certain situations. Anyway its my first time there and the others at the table are clearly people who play a lot to pass the time, a bunch of old folks. No one was a real jerk or anything, but these guys would throw in on EVERYTHING. It wasn't about making money for them, it was to shoot the poo poo with their buddies. I'd draw something exciting (for me) like Ace King or the flop would give me 3 of a kind so I"m excited and bet a little bit, and they would just call every time so, like in your story, every hand is a huge make-or-break moment for me. Sure, I'd end up winning a lot of those but it was just unfun to have the price of admission quadruple because they admittedly threw in an extra $50 they didn't mean to and throw down their cards revealing they had jack poo poo. I felt bad for the poor suckers, including myself, at the table that had their $5 hand go to $55 before the cards even come out. So you end up just having to fold or keep bad hands because they were just bullying everyone at the low stakes table. My cousin ended up losing more than I did, but if I remember right it was because he just got beat out on some hands, not bullied out and having to just watch others play. Basically I am bad at and thus hate texas hold em poker lol.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 18:14
|
|
|
Prop bets are just sort of metabets? Hadn't heard that term before, but that's what I'm gathering from context.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 18:15
|
|
|
PepsiOverCoke posted:As someone who would be buying in for a low amount, this would absolutely infuriate me and why I can't ever play actual poker. Do not play anymore friend. Edit Dont mean to sound patronizing but just dont play. It's all pot or no limit now so it's going to be this way. Back when limit was mostly spread you could play like a scared nit and survive. Not anymore I bet, not enough games spread. Would take untold thousands for you to get better Not worth it imo Spinz fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jan 14, 2020 |
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 18:17
|
|
|
It is in fact good, not bad, when you have a good hand and other people have bad hands and they call your raises
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 18:18
|
|
|
Yeah that's one of the oddest complaints about poker I've ever heard.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 18:26
|
|
|
It's not too rare to hear; there's an old online poker in-joke about "moving up to a level where people respect your raises." The thing with poker is that it's really frustrating when people play way worse than you and then take your money. And whenever somebody turns over some bullshit they had no business playing and beats you, you know that's what happened. But at the end of the day you can't play no-limit poker unless you're willing to happily go all in with a 60% chance of winning, and can shrug it off if things go the other 40%.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 18:35
|
|
|
nrook posted:It is in fact good, not bad, when you have a good hand and other people have bad hands and they call your raises Yeah your second post (the one above this one) is right. When I have a good hand, its fine, but they were calling EVERYTHING so it wasn't so much playing poker against the other players as much as it was just playing a slot kind of feeling. Does that make sense? I'm sure its not a complaint someone who plans on playing seriously and for the long haul makes, its just something as a casual short stack player I found pretty disheartening and frustrating, and why I won't go back to that.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 19:34
|
|
|
My best gambling story was the night I had $100 in my pocket so I went to go play poker at Mohegan Sun (which was visible from my house, we are talking bike ride distance.) The waitress was bringing new drinks every hour or two and in between hands I was walking out of the poker room to the bar right outside for a cold one. So basically, I spent all night getting hammered playing 1-2 no limit. The night is an absolute blur and the only part I remember is drunkenly looking down at my chips, asking the dealer if they were all mine, and scooping them all up when he replied in the affirmative. A couple of guys at the table started complaining that I wasn't "giving them a chance to win their money back" and like the drunk bastard I was I replied "I have been for an hour not my chance you couldn't seal the deal." It was only, like, $800 tops. The floor boss thought it was hilarious and they bought me a taxi home. My worst gambling story was playing Texas Holdem Bonus (at Mohegan again) which is this sort of hold em poker game played players against dealer like Blackjack. Basically, you're dealt the flop, bet on that, then the turn, then the river, betting each time. There's a bonus you can bet on that has odds for the kinds of hands that win big in video poker (basically a full house or better) thats a complete waste but fun to throw a dollar on each time. Anyways, I was having fun playing alone (started with like $30 and had a respectable $120 or so) and shooting poo poo with the very nice dealer when this haggard dude walked up and sat down at the table. He was wearing a suit without the jacket and looked like total poo poo. The first thing he said to me was "man I just lost all my rent on roulette" as he laid $200 down on the table for change. "My wife is gonna kill me dude. " I just blinked at him. He obviously had no idea what he was doing and blew his whole stack in about 30 minutes, at which point he busted out another hundred and lost that too. That's when he started in asking me for money. "Come on dude loan me ten bucks ill pay you back. This next hand we got it man." "bet for me this hand so I can get back in the game." "come on my whole family is going to leave me for spending the entire rent." Finally I looked at the dealer and I told her "this guy is trying to shake me down and I don't feel comfortable" which must be some kind of magic words at the casino because two gorillas in business suits appeared out of the wall and gently helped that man away from the table. 
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 19:36
|
|
|
A Strange Aeon posted:Prop bets are just sort of metabets? Hadn't heard that term before, but that's what I'm gathering from context. Proposition bet, it’s a bet on literally anything that doesn’t directly impact the outcome of a game or sometimes it’s just a dare. The guy who got breast implants did it for a prop. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposition_bet
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 19:55
|
|
|
PepsiOverCoke posted:Yeah your second post (the one above this one) is right. When I have a good hand, its fine, but they were calling EVERYTHING so it wasn't so much playing poker against the other players as much as it was just playing a slot kind of feeling. It makes sense, but Texas Hold'Em is pretty fun. Having your first experience (?) playing it against regulars in a casino perhaps wasn't the ideal.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 20:04
|
|
|
Jeza posted:It makes sense, but Texas Hold'Em is pretty fun. Having your first experience (?) playing it against regulars in a casino perhaps wasn't the ideal. My prior experience was playing it for almost an entire year in Iraq. $5 buy-in lmao.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 20:07
|
|
|
its a fun social game to play at a low stake. like enough where you can win $100+ in a night but not enough where you'd feel bad for taking your friends' money.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 20:09
|
|
|
Getting hammered playing 1/2 in a casino is also great but yeah you have to be willing to lose like $600 in the worst case doing it which is some expensive drinks. This is the worst part about cali poker: you aren't allowed to serve free drinks to gamblers. Honestly it's morally the right call, but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck for me.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 20:14
|
|
|
There's definitely total degenerates at 1/2 tables that you'll never shake from any hand ever. You can get called down all the way only to lose to a guy who flips 9/4 offsuit hitting his two pair on the river. Inversely you can also make a lot of money that way being patient. I feel like I almost have to play tournaments live because it's the only way to make sure degenerates don't go wild. You can chip up really fast against them and then they sulk back to the 1/2 tables to waste the rest of their rent money.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 20:15
|
|
|
I agree but in the opposite direction. The same people play way better in tournaments than they do in cash games for some reason, so I stick to cash.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 20:28
|
|
|
tbh the thing that irks me most about the casino is the $6.95 ATM fee, for some reason that strikes me as the most predatory thing about the place. I've been tempted many times to use one after busting but for some reason THE PRINCIPLE OF THE THING gets me which is funny because when I'm in a casino there are very few things I have principles about. but still. those fuckers should be paying ME to withdraw my money
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 20:35
|
|
|
I was in St. Thomas a month ago and the casino by the cruise ships was the cheapest ATM on the island, $3.00 or something. Up here in NY it's $6 or $7 though
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 20:37
|
|
|
You have to pay to take money out of an ATM in the USA??
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 21:00
|
|
|
Jeza posted:You have to pay to take money out of an ATM in the USA?? For ATMs not owned by your bank (or in your “network” of banks, as is often the case for credit unions), usually.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 21:04
|
|
|
I won 50 bux on IRL blackjack, then bought my wife a gigantic banana split with the winnings. She was PISSED
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 21:41
|
|
|
A Strange Aeon posted:Interesting, are there situations where the 2 hands you make lose, but might have won if you'd arranged them differently? Does the dealer have an obligation to arrange their hand in a certain way, kinda like how a blackjack dealer has to stand on a certain value? Yea, there are some situations. If you're playing normal Pai-gow you generally want to set your hand the best possible way every time though (especially if you're betting the 7-card bonus.) The dealer has to set each hand the house way. Every casino might have slightly different rules (some houses a wheel is considered the second highest straight), but they all have a little chart that tells you how to set it up. If you don't know how to play just tell the dealer you want the house way and they will set it for you. Face-Up Pai Gow is also a thing now. So, you see the dealer's hand first and then set your hand accordingly. The biggest difference in that game is that all normal bets push when the dealer gets an Ace high pai-gow (Ace high, no pair.) I like playing Pai-gow in a real casino I'm usually the only white guy playing and the dealers usually pay attention to me more because I'm not cursing or yelling NO HAIR repeatedly. I Brake For MILFs fucked around with this message at 23:15 on Jan 14, 2020 |
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 23:04
|
|
|
Oswald Kesselpot posted:You obviously didn’t realize much. The person I was replying to was saying that he should exclude games of skill from his observation that people are always claiming to be up, so I pointed out his original statement was correct; poker is a game of skill but still full of people that always claim to be up when they aren’t. Ya you seem dumb as dogshit so I didn't bother reading your reply. Definitely type me up another one I also won't read if it floats your boat though!
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 23:04
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 27, 2024 07:19 |
|
|
Cage Kicker posted:My worst gambling story was playing Texas Holdem Bonus (at Mohegan again) which is this sort of hold em poker game played players against dealer like Blackjack. Basically, you're dealt the flop, bet on that, then the turn, then the river, betting each time. I know this wasn't the point of the story but I'm curious if anyone knows the correct strategy in this time. You would think that theoretically you should bet 4x on any starting hand better than average, but there has to be some EV in not betting a hand like say K4o until after you see the flop, so that you can hold back on a board like say 876. I haven't really figured it out.
|
|
#
?
Jan 14, 2020 23:22
|
|