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I Brake For MILFs
Jan 9, 2007

:syoon:


PepsiOverCoke posted:

I feel dumb but..What....is.....straddling.

Everyone has answered this already, but there is also something called a Mississippi straddle which allows players to straddle from any position outside of the blinds. At my room we allow straddle UTG/Button.

Some rooms are different, but where I play it changes the action pre-flop. If you straddle the button the action starts on the small blind if there aren't any raises then the button has the option to check or raise. (same with UTG, action starts on UTG+1.)

Players can also vote to allow re-straddles which doubles the original straddle.

I've also seen PLO with a rock which is a forced bet that must be put in the pot every hand and who ever wins that pot is forced to straddle the next hand.

There's also games with a kill. In Hi-Lo limit games if the pot reaches a certain amount and gets scooped (player wins the high and the low) the very next hand has double the blinds. The player who scooped is forced to ante the big blind. So, in a 2-4 game the next hand would be a 4-8 game for a hand.

Poker is fun.

I Brake For MILFs fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Jan 14, 2020

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Oswald Kesselpot
Jan 14, 2008

HONK HONK HONK

SilvergunSuperman posted:

Ya you seem dumb as dogshit so I didn't bother reading your reply.

Definitely type me up another one I also won't read if it floats your boat though!
C'mon we are all adults. You can just admit that you were wrong. It's ok, honest.

PepsiOverCoke
Dec 2, 2019

by Reene

I Brake For MILFs posted:

Everyone has answered this already, but there is also something called a Mississippi straddle which allows players to straddle from any position outside of the blinds. At my room we allow straddle UTG/Button.

Some rooms are different, but where I play it changes the action pre-flop. If you straddle the button the action starts on the small blind if there aren't any raises then the button has the option to check or raise. (same with UTG, action starts on UTG+1.)

Players can also vote to allow re-straddles which doubles the original straddle.

I've also seen PLO with a rock which is a forced bet that must be put in the pot every hand and who ever wins that pot is forced to straddle the next hand.

There's also games with a kill. In Hi-Lo limit games if the pot reaches a certain amount and gets scooped (player wins the high and the low) the very next hand has double the blinds. The player who scooped is forced to ante the big blind. So, in a 2-4 game the next hand would be a 4-8 game for a hand.

Poker is fun.

I appreciate the response but i literally dont understand anything in this post.


PLO, UTG, action, PLO with Duane Johnson, a kill?

What? Please help me out here.

I know big and little blind are the required bets you have to throw in, little has to match big on their turn.

The button is the uh, dealer spot?

Beefed Owl
Sep 13, 2007

Come at me scrub-lord I'm ripped!

JAMOOOL posted:

I know this wasn't the point of the story but I'm curious if anyone knows the correct strategy in this time. You would think that theoretically you should bet 4x on any starting hand better than average, but there has to be some EV in not betting a hand like say K4o until after you see the flop, so that you can hold back on a board like say 876. I haven't really figured it out.

You can look up strats online but from what ive seen with the game the strategy cpmes from when to fold

Beefed Owl
Sep 13, 2007

Come at me scrub-lord I'm ripped!

PepsiOverCoke posted:

I appreciate the response but i literally dont understand anything in this post.


PLO, UTG, action, PLO with Duane Johnson, a kill?

What? Please help me out here.

I know big and little blind are the required bets you have to throw in, little has to match big on their turn.

The button is the uh, dealer spot?

Button is dealer, PLO = Pot Limit Omaha, UTG = Under The Gun (first to act), action is whos turn it is.

PepsiOverCoke
Dec 2, 2019

by Reene

TurboFlamingChicken posted:

Button is dealer, PLO = Pot Limit Omaha, UTG = Under The Gun (first to act), action is whos turn it is.

What is Omaha? Besides the city.

JonathonSpectre
Jul 23, 2003

I replaced the Shermatar and text with this because I don't wanna see racial slurs every time you post what the fuck

Soiled Meat
I saw an old woman win $20,000 on a $100 slot machine about 15 years ago.

Yes, a $100 slot machine. I'd been kind of watching in horrified fascination as she fed TWO HUNDRED loving DOLLARS AT A TIME into this thing, only to be rewarded with some lights and sounds and then being $200 down. Over, and over, and over.

Well, anyway, she hit a jackpot, the casino guys came out to take a picture with her, etc. As I left I walked past her and congratulated her on her win.

She looked at me with sad eyes and said, "Yeah, I'm almost back to even for the day."

I Brake For MILFs
Jan 9, 2007

:syoon:


PepsiOverCoke posted:

I appreciate the response but i literally dont understand anything in this post.


PLO, UTG, action, PLO with Duane Johnson, a kill?

What? Please help me out here.

I know big and little blind are the required bets you have to throw in, little has to match big on their turn.

The button is the uh, dealer spot?

Everything I posted is just higher big blinds which put more money in the pot before there are any cards dealt.

They're designed to create bigger incentive for players to try to win more money.


PLO = Pot Limit Omaha - it's Texas hold em with 4 cards and two of your cards must play. You can only bet what's in the pot.

UTG = Under the Gun - the seating position that is next to the big blind. They typically act first pre-flop.

Action - term used to denote when it's the player's turn to check/raise/fold.

The Rock - regional term to denote a blind forced bet that equals double the big blind (pre-flop.)

Kill - a term used to tell players that if the pot reaches a certain amount the next hand will have double big blind/small blind.b

I Brake For MILFs
Jan 9, 2007

:syoon:


TurboFlamingChicken posted:

You can look up strats online but from what ive seen with the game the strategy cpmes from when to fold

I've heard you're supposed to 4x any Ace or pocket pair above deuces.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

JonathonSpectre posted:

I saw an old woman win $20,000 on a $100 slot machine about 15 years ago.

Yes, a $100 slot machine. I'd been kind of watching in horrified fascination as she fed TWO HUNDRED loving DOLLARS AT A TIME into this thing, only to be rewarded with some lights and sounds and then being $200 down. Over, and over, and over.

Well, anyway, she hit a jackpot, the casino guys came out to take a picture with her, etc. As I left I walked past her and congratulated her on her win.

She looked at me with sad eyes and said, "Yeah, I'm almost back to even for the day."

Death

Time on slots is tasting death after



Thats why you dont want to stop so badly

THE AFTER

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


JonathonSpectre posted:

I saw an old woman win $20,000 on a $100 slot machine about 15 years ago.

Yes, a $100 slot machine. I'd been kind of watching in horrified fascination as she fed TWO HUNDRED loving DOLLARS AT A TIME into this thing, only to be rewarded with some lights and sounds and then being $200 down. Over, and over, and over.

Well, anyway, she hit a jackpot, the casino guys came out to take a picture with her, etc. As I left I walked past her and congratulated her on her win.

She looked at me with sad eyes and said, "Yeah, I'm almost back to even for the day."

I wanna say it was Louis Theroux's doc on casinos where some mattress company owner gets comped to go this casino all the time and then sits for hours just feeding bills into these machines. Not sitting at one, a whole row of them, just feeding bills down the line.

There was another where a widow had spent something stupid like 7 million dollars at the slot machines after her husband died and the casino even had a memorial service for her husband and her son was furious she was pissing away all that money.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jan 15, 2020

chibi luda
Apr 17, 2013

Groovelord Neato posted:

I wanna say it was Louis Theroux's doc on casinos where some mattress company owner gets comped to go this casino all the time and then sits for hours just feeding bills into these machines. Not sitting at one, a whole row of them, just feeding bills down the line.

There was another where a widow had spent something stupid like 7 million dollars at the slot machines after her husband died and the casino even had a memorial service for her husband and her son was furious she was pissing away all that money.

Yeah, this was a pretty good doc about gambling. Definitely worth a watch if the subject matter interests you

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6od02h

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Watching the guy feeding 100s over and over again into the slot machines is making me sick to my stomach all over again.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
A 100 dollar slot machine just feels absolutely bonkers to me. That’s so much money for a spin that lasts what, ten seconds?

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
The first time we went to Vegas we checked in at the Luxor, went downstairs and saw a nice spinning BMW with maybe 20 slot machines around it. We went to go sit down at two of them, and before I could sit down an old dude with his wife sat down. No problem, I just sat at the machine to the right of my wife instead.

poo poo you not, two pulls they won the loving car.

gently caress you, grandpa.

The next day someone won like 13m at Excalibur.

We were like HOLY poo poo VEGAS IS AWESOME WERE GUNNA BE SO RICH.

lmao

We've been there about 20 times since and the most we've really ever won was about $150 off something.

We don't go to gamble mostly, we just like the atmosphere and being able to be out and about at 4am and still have cool poo poo to do.

Philthy fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Jan 15, 2020

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Groovelord Neato posted:

Watching the guy feeding 100s over and over again into the slot machines is making me sick to my stomach all over again.
The guy who was clearly not having a good time and seemed to genuinely believe he had a good system to beat the odds was more depressing I think. Some rich dude pissing away a couple hundred grand just to show off that he could is eye popping but not really sad.

The old lady that lived there feels like there could be more to the story, like if they moved recently I wonder if she had to sell a house or something to keep things going. Her kid seemed chill though, like I mean obviously he wasn't entirely happy with the scenario but he didn't really come across as feeling entitled to a good inheritance or anything.

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

Ugly In The Morning posted:

A 100 dollar slot machine just feels absolutely bonkers to me. That’s so much money for a spin that lasts what, ten seconds?

Probably closer to 3.

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

Oswald Kesselpot posted:

C'mon we are all adults. You can just admit that you were wrong. It's ok, honest.

In your head this was probably the sickest of burns but lol didn't read.

Another!

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Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf
I've been to AC a bunch of times. My first time ever I was up $30 which allowed me to essentially get a free buffet dinner. Second time I went to AC was with my friends, and at blackjack I accidentally spilled my rum & coke on the table. Embarrassing as hell. The dealer whipped out a roll of paper towels and cleaned it up quick though. Been to Vegas once as well, although spent most of the time playing video poker at the bars. Also, the second-hand smoking gets to me and I'd prefer to just stay out of the casinos if it gets too bad.

Mr.Chill
Aug 29, 2006
I've never been in a casino but I spent a year doing customer service for about fifteen of them. Lemme tell ya, no one is meaner than little old ladies and regular Australian dudes.

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

SilvergunSuperman posted:

Probably closer to 3.

Lol even 3 seconds is no loving way

Completely serious

Ohhhh nice av ty so much mystery goon!!!!

:love:

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

I Brake For MILFs posted:

Everyone has answered this already, but there is also something called a Mississippi straddle which allows players to straddle from any position

OK this is definitely a sex thing.

Oswald Kesselpot
Jan 14, 2008

HONK HONK HONK

SilvergunSuperman posted:

In your head this was probably the sickest of burns but lol didn't read.

Another!
You had a meltdown over a mis-perceived and completely inconsequential comment, then went elementary school yard recess when shown to be wrong.

I don’t really need to throw out any burns at all brother, you are doing just fine on your own.

Oswald Kesselpot fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Jan 15, 2020

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo
Moving along :)

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
i wish there was somewhere to play Spades that isn't jail

I brought my Drake
Jul 10, 2014

These high-G injections have some serious side effects after pulling so many jumps.

verbal enema posted:

i wish there was somewhere to play Spades that isn't jail

There's probably a casino somewhere that offers nothing but card games. 4AM cutthroat gin rummy.

nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!

verbal enema posted:

i wish there was somewhere to play Spades that isn't jail

Hey, there’s always the Marines!

Tetramin
Apr 1, 2006

I'ma buck you up.
Anybody interested in live poker but hasn’t played much or is nervous about casinos should trawl through like meetup.com for local home games with low stakes. Like JAMOOL posted, my local group does .25/.50 with a $40 max buyin but the host provides cigars and scotch. It’s a fun rear end time, and the stakes are small enough to keep sharks away. Not to say the pots don’t get pretty big once everyone’s just having a good time

Capntastic
Jan 13, 2005

A dog begins eating a dusty old coil of rope but there's a nail in it.

My favorite casino/gambling story is Last Call by Tim Powers which is a supernatural adventure novel about Jungian archetypes, chaos magic, tarot cards, and alcoholism all tied together with degenerate gambling. But don’t take my word for it! Check it out at your nearest library!

(Despite being magical fiction it has some pretty grimy depictions of the poker grind, and a lot of the magic is based around “what if these superstitions actually worked”)

olylifter
Sep 13, 2007

I'm bad with money and you have an avatar!

queserasera posted:

There's probably a casino somewhere that offers nothing but card games. 4AM cutthroat gin rummy.

Clark and Eddie go to a casino where War is one of the games: literally the only decent scene in the debacle that is Vegas Vacation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c1BQkKUsx0

Spinz
Jan 7, 2020

I ordered luscious new gemstones from India and made new earrings for my SA mart thread

Remember my earrings and art are much better than my posting

New stuff starts towards end of page 3 of the thread

Capntastic posted:

My favorite casino/gambling story is Last Call by Tim Powers which is a supernatural adventure novel about Jungian archetypes, chaos magic, tarot cards, and alcoholism all tied together with degenerate gambling. But don’t take my word for it! Check it out at your nearest library!

(Despite being magical fiction it has some pretty grimy depictions of the poker grind, and a lot of the magic is based around “what if these superstitions actually worked”)

Read it

Odd coincidence really imo

Spinz fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Jan 15, 2020

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Casino War was mentioned, and it is literally the stupidest casino card game that I dealt. It is literally whoever draws the higher card wins. And if it is a tie, you have the option to bet again to get another card. The tables were always at the lowest level, (min $5), but I saw people throw hundreds at me.

But that is not what I wanted to post. Whilst I never worked at the pokies, I heard and saw things. And whilst it is depressing to see people continuously feeding money into the machines, it is worse to see the people who think they have "a system", or a method to make themselves win. Watching people do their little ADHD dance of touching the buttons in a certain way, or stroking the screen if they win/lose, tapping their feet three times before each bet etc. is infinitely worse.

Slots are machines, guided by mathematical algorithms. The casino, and much less the machines themselves, give no fucks how you use them, just that the money goes in.

surf rock
Aug 12, 2007

We need more women in STEM, and by that, I mean skateboarding, television, esports, and magic.

Earth Table posted:

Yeah, this was a pretty good doc about gambling. Definitely worth a watch if the subject matter interests you

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6od02h

Oh god it's so depressing. Also I like this guy's documentary style; I should watch more of his stuff.

I became a degenerate sports gambler this NFL season, and I feel like I'm at a tipping point. I got a $250 bonus match for putting in $250 in Week 1, and here in the playoffs, I finally lost the rest of the $250 bonus. My max profit was $170 at one point; I was up $50 going into the divisional round, but I made four big bets and none of them came through. The last one and the biggest one was actually kind of deliberate self-sabotage; I hedged against my own team to try to make the game a win-win scenario. My team won, and I'm happy to say I didn't even think about the lost bet until the next day, so I'm not pure degenerate yet.

But, now that I'm out of the bonus money, if I were to keep going it would be my actual money (the original $250 deposit). I'm trying to decide whether to withdraw it or to hedge my team again, the win-win worked last time, but maybe it would feel different with it not being bonus money anymore.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



surf rock posted:

Oh god it's so depressing. Also I like this guy's documentary style; I should watch more of his stuff.

I became a degenerate sports gambler this NFL season, and I feel like I'm at a tipping point. I got a $250 bonus match for putting in $250 in Week 1, and here in the playoffs, I finally lost the rest of the $250 bonus. My max profit was $170 at one point; I was up $50 going into the divisional round, but I made four big bets and none of them came through. The last one and the biggest one was actually kind of deliberate self-sabotage; I hedged against my own team to try to make the game a win-win scenario. My team won, and I'm happy to say I didn't even think about the lost bet until the next day, so I'm not pure degenerate yet.

But, now that I'm out of the bonus money, if I were to keep going it would be my actual money (the original $250 deposit). I'm trying to decide whether to withdraw it or to hedge my team again, the win-win worked last time, but maybe it would feel different with it not being bonus money anymore.

Since you’re actively bragging about being a ~*dEgEnErAtE*~ you’re going to lose it all anyway. May as well go through it as quickly as possible.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Goodbye Surf Rocks money

JaySB
Nov 16, 2006



Not that I'm particularly going to justify any type of slot play, BUT high stakes slots pay out at a much higher rate than penny slots. (Slot machine payouts are mostly unregulated in terms of what % they actually have to win) Wizard Of Odds, I think, did a pretty in depth breakdown of all that.

I watched a guy lose $1.8 million on roulette the other day like it was nothing.

Baddog
May 12, 2001

BrigadierSensible posted:

Casino War was mentioned, and it is literally the stupidest casino card game that I dealt.

Martingaling casino war is fun as gently caress tho!

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood
Martingaling sounds like a part of the Rat Pack you aren't supposed to see in public.

squirrelzipper
Nov 2, 2011

JaySB posted:

Not that I'm particularly going to justify any type of slot play, BUT high stakes slots pay out at a much higher rate than penny slots. (Slot machine payouts are mostly unregulated in terms of what % they actually have to win) Wizard Of Odds, I think, did a pretty in depth breakdown of all that.

I watched a guy lose $1.8 million on roulette the other day like it was nothing.

That’s uh, a lot of money on roulette holy poo poo.

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



PHIZ KALIFA posted:

Martingaling sounds like a part of the Rat Pack you aren't supposed to see in public.

Double your bet every time you lose and a single win erases all your past losses. In practice you either exhaust your funds or hit the max bet before you win again.

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