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Iron Crowned posted:Just finished watching Midsommar, was I the only one expecting a monster to appear the whole time? Probably, because every single thing that happens in the movie save for maybe the jumping off the cliffs and the hammer was foreshadowed at some point and then plays out exactly as it's foreshadowed. What you have in your spoiler there isn't really a part of the community's lore so I wasn't expecting that out of nowhere.
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Iron Crowned posted:Just finished watching Midsommar, was I the only one expecting a monster to appear the whole time? Maybe? I dunno, I never got that sense myself. I just got Wicker Man vibes so I assumed there would be some sort of horrific ritual sacrifice and I was correct. The movie was good but some sort of huge demi-god monster ala The Ritual would've been much appreciated.
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alf_pogs posted:her panicked "this is no dream, this is really happening" gives me the deep shudders every single time Yeah, that's the moment that always jumps to mind when I think of this film.
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Dunno if it's been posted, but there is currently a documentary of the making of Rob Zombie's Halloween available for free on YouTube. It's 4 hrs and 20 minutes long. 
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Untrustable posted:The Lighthouse unsettled me greatly. I found it bleakly funny but at the same time I could straight up feel the frustration of Pattinson pushing that wheelbarrow. I had a weird panicky moment during the scene at the end where he touches the light and it's just that long, drawn out distorted screaming and my home theater is so good so the screaming was everywhere and hyper loud and my brain was like, "you gotta get out of here!" and then it was over and I realized that the movie is really about two guys who don't want to admit they're gay so they live in seclusion and pretend that a boat will one day come for them. The boat is a metaphor for the acceptance of their feelings. Then the movie ended. I like that interpretation. Maybe there's an alternative universe where they smooch and it turns into San Junipero.
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Basebf555 posted:Maybe? I dunno, I never got that sense myself. I just got Wicker Man vibes so I assumed there would be some sort of horrific ritual sacrifice and I was correct. Yeah, I think it was this combo that made me expect something supernatural to happen. I just finished Hereditary, and that was the first time I can recall making this face  during a movie.
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King Vidiot posted:Probably, because every single thing that happens in the movie save for maybe the jumping off the cliffs and the hammer was foreshadowed at some point and then plays out exactly as it's foreshadowed. What you have in your spoiler there isn't really a part of the community's lore so I wasn't expecting that out of nowhere. Even that scene has him telling them what's going to happen beforehand and one of them going "It's not the actual probably fictional ancient Norse ritual of olds throwing themselves from cliffs? is it" and the Perfidious Swede says"It's pretty real". Also a couple of scenes earlier he jokes about it.
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TheKingslayer posted:Eraserhead is a movie I can totally appreciate but also never want to watch again because it wasn't any fun. Eraserhead is incredibly playful and has a strong sense of humor throughout, it just tends to get ignored in favor of the bleakness or people trying to interpret what's going on. If you can't find the dark humor in a guy sitting down to have dinner with his weird would-be in-laws and the food starts menstruating while they just blankly smile him, then you can't come to my birthday party.
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Iron Crowned posted:Yeah, I think it was this combo that made me expect something supernatural to happen. There are a lot of images in the first few scenes that foreshadow moments later on. One of which is a Mu Pan illustrations of a giant Liopleurodon killing a bunch of villagers in battle. The first time I saw that, I also expected a strange twist of there being a giant monster at the heart of these rituals, but alas, it's just a strange red herring.
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Untrustable posted:The Lighthouse unsettled me greatly. I found it bleakly funny but at the same time I could straight up feel the frustration of Pattinson pushing that wheelbarrow. I had a weird panicky moment during the scene at the end where he touches the light and it's just that long, drawn out distorted screaming and my home theater is so good so the screaming was everywhere and hyper loud and my brain was like, "you gotta get out of here!" and then it was over and I realized that the movie is really about two guys who don't want to admit they're gay so they live in seclusion and pretend that a boat will one day come for them. The boat is a metaphor for the acceptance of their feelings. Then the movie ended. This interpretation fits in surprsingly well with the scenes of masterbation to the mermaid statue. Patterson's ideal woman is one who does not exist from the waist down, for he is in reality not attracted to women at all. The fantasies about mermaids thus allow him to maintain his illusions of heterosexuality. However, in time this illusion is shattered (symbolized by the breaking of the statue) and he is forced to confront the reality of a mermaid vagina and the lack of arousal it brings him.
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I'm gonna throw in with the other posters who enjoyed Underwater. Awesome looking creature feature with Lovecraftian sea beasties. It did rip off Alien significantly, including the air duct scene but minus the big reveal of evil corporation trying to research or recover the monsters or the heroine trying to reverse a self destruct sequence. Lovely looking film that looks like it was shot with a decent budget.
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Honestly the more time that goes by the more I think The Ritual is really really loving good and one of the absolute best of the decade in a decade that had some tough competition in the genre. I don't remember many people mentioning it in their best of the decade lists.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:This interpretation fits in surprsingly well with the scenes of masterbation to the mermaid statue. Patterson's ideal woman is one who does not exist from the waist down, for he is in reality not attracted to women at all. The fantasies about mermaids thus allow him to maintain his illusions of heterosexuality. However, in time this illusion is shattered (symbolized by the breaking of the statue) and he is forced to confront the reality of a mermaid vagina and the lack of arousal it brings him. And the image of Dafoe's character naked, with those piercing lighthouse eyes that see right through Pattinson as he squirms in agony
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Basebf555 posted:Honestly the more time that goes by the more I think The Ritual is really really loving good and one of the absolute best of the decade in a decade that had some tough competition in the genre. I don't remember many people mentioning it in their best of the decade lists. It's really good but only because it "gets" how to do a monster reveal. The third act is kinda garbo with the cultists/villagers.
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Franchescanado posted:Dunno if it's been posted, but there is currently a documentary of the making of Rob Zombie's Halloween available for free on YouTube. It's 4 hrs and 20 minutes long. How many frames per minute are required to stretch out "It's poo poo" for that long?
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Basebf555 posted:Honestly the more time that goes by the more I think The Ritual is really really loving good and one of the absolute best of the decade in a decade that had some tough competition in the genre. I don't remember many people mentioning it in their best of the decade lists. It'd make mine for sure. I struggle to think of anything that touches that creature design. It also makes really good use of what is a tough piece of source material to adapt.
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flashy_mcflash posted:It'd make mine for sure. I struggle to think of anything that touches that creature design. It also makes really good use of what is a tough piece of source material to adapt. Agreed on the source material. I read the book after the film and it seemed very simple (if creepy), but then took a weird almost torture porn turn. As much as the cultist stuff dragged, I can't see following the book working well. Fantastic monster though. Really pagan and primeval feeling EDIT: On the subject of monster design and going in the complete opposite direction, did anyone ever see a film called Hypothermia in 2010 (Michael Rooker was in it). I remember it being pretty decent for what it was. Nothing ground breaking, but a competent little movie out of nowhere. Then you got the reveal of the monster and... Dear god. I cannot overstate how bad the monster was. I honestly thought it was a placeholder for test footage. Like... someone filmed that and said "yep, that's our monster". It was like some kid told his mum he needed a monster outfit for a school play the night before the show and she threw something together. Dog_Meat fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jan 20, 2020 |
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Iron Crowned posted:And Bone Tomahawk owns, well bones Now watch The Burrowers.
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Grendels Dad posted:Now watch The Burrowers. One of the top five endings in horror imo
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Basebf555 posted:I don't remember many people mentioning it in their best of the decade lists. It's not that good? The monster design is pretty cool, but the rest is just so generic.
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Disagree. The Ritual was great. Maybe it wasn't revolutionary or anything, but I just think it was a rock solid horror flick that was both scary and a lot of fun. It would probably make my top ten at least of the last 5 years. Decade might be pushing it.
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Franchescanado posted:Dunno if it's been posted, but there is currently a documentary of the making of Rob Zombie's Halloween available for free on YouTube. It's 4 hrs and 20 minutes long. i saw this i love it sm its my favorite video on the internet except for that one where the cat is playing the keyboard
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Kvlt! posted:i saw this i love it sm its my favorite video on the internet except for that one where the cat is playing the keyboard honestly surprised you're old enough to remember keyboard cat
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i wasn't old enough when it came out i discovered it circa 2017 when I was but an innocent 19 year old
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Kvlt! posted:i wasn't old enough when it came out i discovered it circa 2017 when I was but an innocent 19 year old please don't use those numbers together
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Alhazred posted:It's not that good? The monster design is pretty cool, but the rest is just so generic. That was my opinion. It was really bland besides the monster and the beautiful shots of the setting. Also loving all the recent appreciation for The Greasy Strangler. It's not for everyone and tbh I think it's more humor than horror (and most of the horror is more disgust than horror) but there's some interesting things going on there for real.
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Pomp posted:please don't use those numbers together dw im only 21 there's still time if you want to adopt me 
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alansmithee posted:That was my opinion. It was really bland besides the monster and the beautiful shots of the setting. I have profound respect for how intentional every shot, line and casting decision is. It drips with spite, not only for mainstream film making, but also for the viewer. It has no interest in easing you in, it has no concern for whether or not you "get" it. Nothing in The Greasy Strangler is an accident. Everything in it is designed to either repulse you or challenge a preconception on who, or what, deserves to be portrayed in film. I love it so much.
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If you like the Greasy Strangler, check out Kuso. It's got that similar weird vibe but way more graphic and bizzare. Really...interesting movie. I saw it years ago and still can't even decide if I like it or not, but George Clinton is in it and he's the man!
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alansmithee posted:That was my opinion. It was really bland besides the monster and the beautiful shots of the setting. So I think The Greasy Strangler would make a great double feature with The Lighthouse. Hear me out. Both movies could arguably be viewed as two people who live together that are actually two aspects of the same person. The old Wake and the young Winslow are good analogues for Big Ronnie and Brayden, who are simply two polar dynamics of the same stereotypically male archetype. Ronnie, with his, we'll say, physical manifestation of machismo and hypermasculinity, is old and grizzled and don't believe anything anyone says. He calls everyone a bullshit artist just the way Thomas Wake would. And similar to Wake, Ronnie fights back in an overcompensating way against anything tender or affectionate. Brayden, on the other hand, with his own physical manifestation of male insecurity, is young, innocent, and gullible. He just wants to find tenderness with someone, but is constantly pushing it away because of how it might be perceived. At the end of The Greasy Strangler, we see them become one. Ronnie accepts loving his more innocent side (his son), and Brayden accepts loving his more aggressive side (his father, and becoming another Strangler) anyway, mods namechange to "hootie tootie disco cutie" please
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veni veni veni posted:Disagree. The Ritual was great. Maybe it wasn't revolutionary or anything, but I just think it was a rock solid horror flick that was both scary and a lot of fun.
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In the script for The Lighthouse the two characters are always referred to as YOUNG and OLD example:  furthermore: 
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Horror Thread: at a 45 degree angle, LOOKING LIKE A PENIS
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Alhazred posted:The Ritual is an okay movie, and that's just not enough compared to all those horror movies this year that has been revolutionary. For me the absolute perfection of how The Ritual builds the expectation of a creature, and then pays that off, is worth a hundred Hereditarys or Lighthouses. I won't say it's on the level of the T-Rex paddock in Jurassic Park but it's that same type of thing. Maybe not revolutionary but also not easy, moments like that are pretty drat rare in the genre and I can't think of a better one that came along this decade.
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Basebf555 posted:For me the absolute perfection of how The Ritual builds the expectation of a creature, and then pays that off, is worth a hundred Hereditarys or Lighthouses. I won't say it's on the level of the T-Rex paddock in Jurassic Park but it's that same type of thing. Maybe not revolutionary but also not easy, moments like that are pretty drat rare in the genre and I can't think of a better one that came along this decade. I think people are a little too flippant to the set design for The Ritual. Making a character's internal hallucinations physically manifest into a blend of urban environments and uncharted woods is asking for things to slip into camp, and yet it absolutely pulls off the authenticity of the moment each time. That this is caused by a creature in the woods, which then weaponizes the effect, is really impressive, and never gets questioned in these discussions. Also, the violence is really scary. I love getting scared by a movie that's building up to a reveal of What Happened To That Character? And The Ritual's whole bodies mutilated and spread open in trees was really one of the scariest moments in film in 2018. What's the Mount Rushmore of "Tourists Over Their Heads Vs Nature"? The Descent, The Ritual, The Ruins and...??? The Shallows? I'd say The Edge, but it's not really fair to call that one a horror movie as much as the other three.
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Franchescanado posted:I think people are a little too flippant to the set design for The Ritual. Making a character's internal hallucinations physically manifest into a blend of urban environments and uncharted woods is asking for things to slip into camp, and yet it absolutely pulls off the authenticity of the moment each time. That this is caused by a creature in the woods, which then weaponizes the effect, is really impressive, and never gets questioned in these discussions. I agree with this 100%
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Anyone here seen the documentary, The Summit? Ever since I saw that I thought it'd make a great movie in the "mother nature as a slasher villain" subgenre. Some of the situations described in the documentary are extremely harrowing but I think a big budget movie along the lines of Everest would be even more effective. Vertical Limit came out a few years before the real life disaster on K-2 depicted in The Summit, and nothing in Vertical Limit comes close to the insanity of what happened for real in 2008.
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