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gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Antigravitas posted:

Computer vision is ridiculously hard to do and it should be no surprise that only the most brain dead games (read: Everquest-style MMOs) have bots using that technique.

https://i.imgur.com/Exfu4Eu.mp4

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SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

What a talented robot

Son of a Vondruke!
Aug 3, 2012

More than Star Citizen will ever be.

Kanos posted:

In a theoretical world where Stadia was actually a gigantic smashing success that dominated the console market somehow, you'd probably see a concerted effort to get these kinds of things off the ground, I suppose.

Exactly. I'm sure general apathy to Stadia as a platform is a bigger hurdle to the development of cheats than any technical issues. It may or may not be possible. I just doubt anyone competent would care enough to try.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008


Frame rate is purely gameplay over graphics. Every increase in frame rate comes at the cost of fancier graphical effects.

Gaming seniors should understand that because SNES games would often hit 60 FPS without much of an issue.

FeculentWizardTits
Aug 31, 2001

...! posted:

that's not even the only place i've played. mcdonalds, starbucks, chuckee cheeses, library and of course home. 

This might be the saddest thing in the thread. This dad was at Chuck E. Cheese, an arcade, and instead of playing games with his kid, he brought his own gaming system and hosed off by himself. I imagine the library was also a "go look at books, dad's gotta game" scenario

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...



This is like a post we saw before like two weeks ago.

'I don't care about performance like the actual framerate or graphics!'

*proceeds to quote the exact power of stadia*

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
The “Im playing on X and it runs FLAWLESSLY” posts have gotten downright absurd. I saw one claim it was PERFECT on a 6mbps connection.

I’m playing over two cups on a string and it’s running perfectly, zero input lag.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

When PS4 remote play came out there were people who would say games play flawlessly over lovely hotel Wi-Fi that clearly never tried to go beyond the main menu

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006


It's hilarious how Google's repackaging the boomer "I hate my wife" screed as a marketing tactic for millennials.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Antigravitas posted:

"life hacks" is pretty close to the original meaning of the term. Certainly closer than "to hack" meaning "to run an aimbot someone else made".

I don't bother hacking code to win at games, I just social engineer until all the other players tell me I'm the winner

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Detective No. 27 posted:

It's hilarious how Google's repackaging the boomer "I hate my wife" screed as a marketing tactic for millennials.

It's actually pretty sad, because either their astroturfing group really thinks that "take my wife, please" advertising will succeed, or a significant swathe of Stadia's fanbase are people trapped in loveless marriages that they hate, or some mixture thereof.

Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


Kanos posted:

It's actually pretty sad, because either their astroturfing group really thinks that "take my wife, please" advertising will succeed, or a significant swathe of Stadia's fanbase are people trapped in loveless marriages that they hate, or some mixture thereof.

Isn't it the only halfway-plausible pitch that the marketers could come up with given the constraints they're under? Nearly every other element of this astroturfing campaign is better answered by "just buy a goddamned Switch already", and the only way to dodge that obvious conclusion is by adding in the condition of "well what if I hate/fear my wife and can't stomach a discussion about buying video game hardware she might actually see?" It's the secret sauce to their marketing campaign, and kudos to the marketers who correctly recognized the only niche that Stadia actually appeals to.

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!
But isn’t the switch exactly as hide-able as the stadia? Even with that logic the proper response is still “just buy a switch idiot”

Tempura Wizard
Sep 15, 2006

spending all
spending
spending all my time

Kanos posted:

It's actually pretty sad, because either their astroturfing group really thinks that "take my wife, please" advertising will succeed, or a significant swathe of Stadia's fanbase are people trapped in loveless marriages that they hate, or some mixture thereof.

“I hate the domestic / familial situation that I have engineered for myself and the only escape is to hide my video games instead of communicating with my family like an adult and stepping up. Stadia is the future.”

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Gutcruncher posted:

But isn’t the switch exactly as hide-able as the stadia? Even with that logic the proper response is still “just buy a switch idiot”

Not really, since to play Stadia all you need is a computer with a Chrome browser and a stable internet connection

Unless you want to play on the toilet, then you're talking your phone strapped to a controller with the claw thing that damages the controller.

Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


Gutcruncher posted:

But isn’t the switch exactly as hide-able as the stadia? Even with that logic the proper response is still “just buy a switch idiot”

Well if you play it on TV, I suppose a Chromecast is easier to hide out of sight than a docked Switch, and if your wife ever does spot it you can play it off as a streaming video device instead of a gaming device. If you just play on a computer, in theory there's no extra hardware you have to buy.

Of course they'll both be visible if you want to play it in public over the definitely-reliable wifi provided at a Charles Edward Cheese location, but if you're the kind of dude to ignore your family at the arcade/restaurant while you do a Destiny 2 raid, I'm guessing the inability to have a reasonable discussion with your wife about hobbies is linked to an inability to have a reasonable discussion about money, and then it's about being seen with a controller that you can plausibly claim "only cost $30 or so", rather than a $300 console.

Saltpowered
Apr 12, 2010

Chief Executive Officer
Awful Industries, LLC

Kanos posted:

It's actually pretty sad, because either their astroturfing group really thinks that "take my wife, please" advertising will succeed, or a significant swathe of Stadia's fanbase are people trapped in loveless marriages that they hate, or some mixture thereof.

The lack of critical thinking that leads someone buy and then cheerlead for a Stadia on Reddit is probably really similar to people who make terrible relationship decisions and then talk about them on r/relationships.

I think these terrible posts are completely believable when you consider the impaired decision making you’d have to have to buy a Stadia let alone cheerlead it.

Edit: Just pick a few of the first posts you see and check their post history to see what I mean. Here are a few I checked today:

Poster 1: Wall of Cryptocurrency theory crafting
Poster 2: Magic the Gathering, World of Tanks, Atheism
Poster 3: Runescape, really dumb tech questions
Poster 4: Anthem, Nvidia (can’t stop masturbating about ray tracing) and video game porn
Poster 5: ForeverAlone (with super Yikes posts), the reddit version of those Indian porn Facebook groups, and lots of other reddit porn posts
Poster 6: Incel, MRA, Flat Earther, says only poor people hate stadia, porn subreddits, horrible misogynist

They are not well adjusted people.

Saltpowered fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jan 20, 2020

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

The wife-hating meme is a natural extension of the Dew-and-Ritos marketing persona

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

So what I'm hearing is that games need to bring the Boss button back but rename it the wife button and have it pop up a video of like dishwasher repair or something when pressed.

Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!
Galgun 2, the game where you wander a high school and blast all the girls with Orgasm Beams, has a button called “Panic” that quickly transforms it into a wholesome Famicom Disk System adventure.


We can all learn from Galgun 2

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week
lol business insider wrote an article about stadia that's mostly just a bunch of reddit dissatisfaction posts (they ignored all the weird wife-hating pro-stadia ones)

coincidentally, that Stadia Blog post about "tracking" 120 games for 2020 went up right after the writer contacted google for comment about the story

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Gutcruncher posted:

Galgun 2, the game where you wander a high school and blast all the girls with Orgasm Beams, has a button called “Panic” that quickly transforms it into a wholesome Famicom Disk System adventure.


We can all learn from Galgun 2
IIRC one of the Leisure Suit Larry games had a boss key that pops up a lengthy swarm of unskippable text boxes telling your boss exactly how much company time you've pissed away playing pervy adventure games on the clock, down to the second.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




The Chinese mastered the art of hiding consoles from their spouses.

Iacen
Mar 19, 2009

Si vis pacem, para bellum



I will buy and hide my PS5 among all the other consoles I have. My wife is not tech savvy enough to distinguish between them, so it's easy.

(As long as she can play Beat Saber, Star Wars Kinect and Uncharted, then she's happy as a clam...)

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
All the Dadia posts also complain about lack of time which like... I don't know how Stadia helps with that.

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Now I hope to find a Reddit post from some guy's wife who finds a mystery circuit board under the coffee table, freaks out about the house being bugged, not realizing it's a Raspberry Pi their husband games with on the down low.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe


lol

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
The lengths these people go to just to not have a Switch are wild.

Ineffiable
Feb 16, 2008

Some say that his politics are terrifying, and that he once punched a horse to the ground...


leftist heap posted:

All the Dadia posts also complain about lack of time which like... I don't know how Stadia helps with that.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Stadia is not making it easier for you to play.

For what you gain by not having to patch (nevermind that all consoles have automatic patching) / install your game, you lose on having to boot it up from scratch every time (seriously go look how long it can take to boot up a game with all those annoying credits/titles). If you play mainly one game at a time (at least per console) your ps4/switch/Xbox can bring you back to your saved state in the middle of the game from rest mode in less than a minute.

Also as mentioned, stadia will happily kick you off after 15 minutes of inactivity. So enjoy losing progress if you stayed away too long, something that doesn't happen with all other platforms.

So the way I see it, Stadia gives you time savings on the initial install/patching (hope to God that stadia updated the build on the server) but you lose time due to the lack of a proper rest mode and you cannot simply pause and come back after 15 minutes.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe

Ineffiable posted:

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Stadia is not making it easier for you to play.

For what you gain by not having to patch (nevermind that all consoles have automatic patching) / install your game, you lose on having to boot it up from scratch every time (seriously go look how long it can take to boot up a game with all those annoying credits/titles). If you play mainly one game at a time (at least per console) your ps4/switch/Xbox can bring you back to your saved state in the middle of the game from rest mode in less than a minute.

Also as mentioned, stadia will happily kick you off after 15 minutes of inactivity. So enjoy losing progress if you stayed away too long, something that doesn't happen with all other platforms.

So the way I see it, Stadia gives you time savings on the initial install/patching (hope to God that stadia updated the build on the server) but you lose time due to the lack of a proper rest mode and you cannot simply pause and come back after 15 minutes.

Hey you are preaching to the choir. I have a 4 month old baby and have to drop what I'm doing for hours or even days at a time sometimes. The Switch and PS4 let me do that pretty effortlessly.

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

leftist heap posted:

The lengths these people go to just to not have a Switch are wild.

The Switch has baby games for babies, not dad games for dads.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/erhkz6/my_experience/

in which r/Stadia is shocked to find not everyone wants to janitor their home network just to play Tomb Rader

Blotto_Otter
Aug 16, 2013


leftist heap posted:

Hey you are preaching to the choir. I have a 4 month old baby and have to drop what I'm doing for hours or even days at a time sometimes. The Switch and PS4 let me do that pretty effortlessly.

Me, picking my Stadia controller up exactly 16 minutes after setting it down to go help my wife deal with a diaper blowout, and scrape the babyshit off my hands, and wipe down the crib and change the sheets, and throw the onesie in the washer, and throw the diaper in the diaper pail, and then change the diaper pail because it's overflowing with stinky lovely diapers, to find that my game session has been dumped when I was 20 minutes into an RDR2 mission: "This is a great experience, I want to play all games like this, I love this product"

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

leftist heap posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/erhkz6/my_experience/

in which r/Stadia is shocked to find not everyone wants to janitor their home network just to play Tomb Rader

lmao at this poor guy's extremely reasonable yet impossible expectation:

quote:

I have Google WiFi routers in the house, if there is tuning to be done Google should do that thru a patch.

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?

leftist heap posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/erhkz6/my_experience/

in which r/Stadia is shocked to find not everyone wants to janitor their home network just to play Tomb Rader

Right, because viable products require a ton of troubleshooting to get working well. Because the average person can totally handle that.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Cemetry Gator posted:

Right, because viable products require a ton of troubleshooting to get working well. Because the average person can totally handle that.

My PC, switch , ps4, Xbox x, 3DS, everything else have just worked.

I think it must be magic that they are all using that google just doesn’t have.

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe

Blotto_Otter posted:

Me, picking my Stadia controller up exactly 16 minutes after setting it down to go help my wife deal with a diaper blowout, and scrape the babyshit off my hands, and wipe down the crib and change the sheets, and throw the onesie in the washer, and throw the diaper in the diaper pail, and then change the diaper pail because it's overflowing with stinky lovely diapers, to find that my game session has been dumped when I was 20 minutes into an RDR2 mission: "This is a great experience, I want to play all games like this, I love this product"

This post hurts lol

leftist heap
Feb 28, 2013

Fun Shoe

Cemetry Gator posted:

Right, because viable products require a ton of troubleshooting to get working well. Because the average person can totally handle that.

The least believable part of this post is that a self-professed Google fanboy isn't totally used to troubleshooting Google's janky trash

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008

Ineffiable posted:

Also as mentioned, stadia will happily kick you off after 15 minutes of inactivity. So enjoy losing progress if you stayed away too long, something that doesn't happen with all other platforms.

It's funny how Stadia is basically gaslighting their customers as this being for their benefit too.

"We do this to save you guys from bandwidth overcharges!"

Totally not because it costs them a non-significant amount of money to have running idle, oh no.

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Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Rudager posted:

It's funny how Stadia is basically gaslighting their customers as this being for their benefit too.

"We do this to save you guys from bandwidth overcharges!"

Totally not because it costs them a non-significant amount of money to have running idle, oh no.

If it were to save you charges, it would let you pick the interval of how long it stays idle or turn off the "feature". Just like my PS4 does with the various power save settings. :thunk:

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