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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Cool that he still did it though Unfortunately George Lucas wore him down to the point where, after the prequels were done, Best ended up embracing white supremacism and getting involved with far-right extremist groups. Did you not ever hear the tragedy of Ahmed Best the Racist?
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Mooey Cow posted:Correct, that story owns bones, and the game was a piece of blatant, ahem, "fanwank" that could have used a few Darth Insaniuses (Insanii) In what way did that symbol look like a bird
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Jan 23, 2020 19:31
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RBA Starblade posted:In what way did that symbol look like a bird It's literally called "Starbird"
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Jan 23, 2020 19:33
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CainFortea posted:It's literally called "Starbird" stupid loving name. birds can’t be in space that’s why we have ships instead of chocobos
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Jan 23, 2020 19:34
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Also, the wikipedia entry for the rebel alliance is fuckin weird. Real wiki not star wars wiki. "Technologies: pressurized rooms, medical droids" and that's it.
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Jan 23, 2020 19:37
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i say swears online posted:wait wait i have a question Sheev gets the floor and then invites his queen to speak on his behalf, it's still sheev's motion but he's having her do it because it looks more sympathetic
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Jan 23, 2020 19:38
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Mooey Cow posted:Instead they called him "Starkiller" and the dude was such a huge Marty Sue that his oh so noble death starts the Rebellion and then they take his family crest as their symbol. You thought the Rebel symbol was a phoenix meant to symbolize their struggle to restore freedom? Nope, it's just some guy's aristocratic piece of heraldry. Yeah what moron came up with that name https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/658768570470367232 The only reason Lucas changed it was because he was worried Star-killer was too iffy after all the Manson poo poo.
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Jan 23, 2020 19:38
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zoux posted:Yeah what moron came up with that name ok but then why did the makers of this game use the self-evidently lovely name if it was so obviously dumb and lovely?
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Jan 23, 2020 19:42
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CainFortea posted:It's literally called "Starbird" Google's telling me it got that name in 2015, so I'ma call that a retcon.
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Jan 23, 2020 19:42
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Guy A. Person posted:ok but then why did the makers of this game use the self-evidently lovely name if it was so obviously dumb and lovely? So, "Why did they appeal to a Hollywood director's vanity", is the question you're asking. quote:But then a phantom menace struck. George Lucas would periodically check in on the status of the games his company was making, lending creative input and advice. The developer I talked to sighs, and agitatedly says, “In one viewing of Fracture, [Lucas] said it looked really good, but he didn’t like [Mason Briggs’] name. We’re like, ‘What do you mean, George?’ He responded to the effect of, ‘It doesn’t really fit. When he jumps on stuff, he moves pretty fast. I like B.J. Dart.’ Odd behavior for someone telling people to gently caress off, imo Majorian posted:Shmi, Anakin's mom (jfc gently caress you George Lucas), was Owen's dad's slave-wife. 
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Jan 23, 2020 19:43
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zoux posted:So, "Why did they appeal to a Hollywood director's vanity", is the question you're asking. SO they were sucking up to him to use the 'Darth' title which he blew off then they kept the bad name because... what does sucking up to a Hollywood director have to do with making a good video game?
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Jan 23, 2020 19:44
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Guy A. Person posted:SO they were sucking up to him to use the 'Darth' title which he blew off then they kept the bad name because... Read the edit  and the article I'm drawing from
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Jan 23, 2020 19:45
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Yyyyyyyeah. gently caress you, George.
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Jan 23, 2020 19:46
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ItBreathes posted:Google's telling me it got that name in 2015, so I'ma call that a retcon. Us: It's obviously a bird You, a fool: In what way does this shape that has wings have anything to do with birds?
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Jan 23, 2020 19:47
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zoux posted:Read the edit I mean it doesn't exactly sound like it was mandated or anything. It sounds from both quotes like: 1) he gave them a lovely Darth name but they had the freedom not to use it and they didn't 2) he gave them an alternate name for some dude who originally was called 'Mason Briggs' but they didn't like the alternate name he gave so they went with a third option
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Jan 23, 2020 19:49
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RBA Starblade posted:In what way did that symbol look like a bird It's got two big wings reaching upwards around a pointy (beaked if you will) head on a neck, that's classic phoenix symbolism.
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Jan 23, 2020 19:50
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Mooey Cow posted:It's got two big wings reaching upwards around a pointy (beaked if you will) head on a neck, that's classic phoenix symbolism. That's a stretch tbh those don't look like wings or a beak at all
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Jan 23, 2020 19:52
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What even are wings? Do they really exist?
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Jan 23, 2020 19:58
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We just don't know.
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Jan 23, 2020 20:16
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I definitely like Sabine's interpretation of it... 
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Jan 23, 2020 20:35
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RBA Starblade posted:That's a stretch tbh those don't look like wings or a beak at all I mean it's obviously highly stylized, I would say the top of the rebel symbol actually looks more like the tail feathers of a phoenix. But the parallels are definitely there, the phoenix is often depicted with wings curled up like that, phoenixes are usually red which is a color associated with the rebels, the story of the phoenix rising from the ashes is obviously connected to the idea of a rebellion rising up from defeat, etc Your bar would have to be pretty high to think there's no connection just because it doesn't look really specifically and accurately like a bird
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Jan 23, 2020 20:42
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The prequels are real bad but so are 7 of the star wars movies Theyr more interesting than the new ones at least Phantom menace is probably the 3rd best star war and its not very good
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Jan 23, 2020 20:48
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Communist Thoughts posted:The prequels are real bad but so are 7 of the star wars movies Nah, the OT and TLJ are good, and even ROS is better than the prequels. These are verifiable facts.
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Jan 23, 2020 21:00
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What is your criteria for goodness
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Jan 23, 2020 21:01
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If I like it
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Jan 23, 2020 21:03
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zoux posted:If I like it An utterly impoverished standard
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Jan 23, 2020 21:05
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WOrks for me, the protagonist of reality.
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Jan 23, 2020 21:06
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Guy A. Person posted:I mean it's obviously highly stylized, I would say the top of the rebel symbol actually looks more like the tail feathers of a phoenix. But the parallels are definitely there, the phoenix is often depicted with wings curled up like that, phoenixes are usually red which is a color associated with the rebels, the story of the phoenix rising from the ashes is obviously connected to the idea of a rebellion rising up from defeat, etc I guess if you flip it upside down so its a tail it kind of does but that's one hell of an extra stylized birb
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Jan 23, 2020 21:08
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Did you know the Empire's crest looks like a gear because the Empire represents "the Machine", which some may rage against? Only the biggest brains can understand this kind of symbolism.
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Jan 23, 2020 21:29
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Yes I noticed the theme, odd you didn't tho. . .
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Jan 23, 2020 21:33
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euphronius posted:What is your criteria for goodness Not being terrible/only loved by babies is a big one.
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Jan 23, 2020 21:33
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In what possible way does that icon look like a gear? It looks nothing at all like a cog or anything at all in any way.
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Jan 23, 2020 21:33
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Majorian posted:Not being terrible/only loved by babies is a big one. Your criteria for Good is “not being bad”
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Jan 23, 2020 21:42
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euphronius posted:Your criteria for Good is “not being bad” Pretty reasonable
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RBA Starblade posted:Pretty reasonable Well it isn’t not reasonable
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euphronius posted:Well it isn’t not reasonable Now you're getting it
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euphronius posted:Your criteria for Good is “not being bad” Is yours not? If not, you should change that.
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Jan 23, 2020 23:07
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Majorian posted:Is yours not? If not, you should change that. What is your criteria for bad ?
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Jan 23, 2020 23:09
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euphronius posted:What is your criteria for bad ? Things that aren't good. Obviously.
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euphronius posted:What is your criteria for bad ? CainFortea posted:Things that aren't good. Obviously. Yeah I don't see what's so hard about this dude.
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