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Communist Thoughts posted:The whole point of the prequels was that luke and thus the audiences view of the pre imperial wonderland of the Republic was bollocks. The empire didn't overthrow the Republic, the empire is the Republic under new management. That makes for some deeply cynical films.
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sponges posted:That makes for some deeply cynical films. Yeah, and here's the thing - if Lucas (or preferably a better director) had leaned into that and not tried to split the difference between that and a goofy kids' space adventure trilogy of movies, they might have turned out to be good movies.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:44
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He didn’t want to make the same movies again
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Jan 24, 2020 18:45
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euphronius posted:He didn’t want to make the same movies again It rhymed though
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Jan 24, 2020 18:47
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euphronius posted:He didn’t want to make the same movies again That's good, but it's not like there were only two options, ie: make the same movies again, and make poopy. (poopy which rhymes, it's like poetry)
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Jan 24, 2020 18:48
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I agree he could have made a movie that you would have liked
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Jan 24, 2020 18:49
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He should have made a film about youths street racing and called it Revenge of the Sith.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:50
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euphronius posted:I agree he could have made a movie that you would have liked Considering that the OT was only good because he lucked into it, and didn't have enough gumption and resources to overrule all the people shouting down his worst ideas, I very much doubt he could have made them good.
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I'll note that we've gone some 15 pages of bashing the prequels and that's without even really getting into midichlorians and Jar Jar at all Here's another way in which the prequels make the OT worse: rather than being some weird ineffable afterlife that a strong Jedi inhabits, Create Force Ghost is actually at the top of the Sentinel skill tree so when Yoda hands Obi wan a build guide on how to spend his ability points so he could do it at the end of ROTS, did he pass it along to Luke on Bespin so he could give it to a newly-rehabilitated Anakin in the last moments of his life on the off chance he repented at the end? It's a good drat thing the respec vendor was so close to the throne room CainFortea posted:Considering that the OT was only good because he lucked into it, and didn't have enough gumption and resources to overrule all the people shouting down his worst ideas, I very much doubt he could have made them good. Once he had the power he went back and literally made the first trilogy objectively worse and then made those the only versions you could see! The man makes bad movie making decisions!
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Should have gone with Vanguard for force charge and force nova
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Jan 24, 2020 18:53
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CainFortea posted:Considering that the OT was only good because he lucked into it, and didn't have enough gumption and resources to overrule all the people shouting down his worst ideas, I very much doubt he could have made them good. Did you like Indiana Jones and the last crusade Everyone likes that
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euphronius posted:Did you like Indiana Jones and the last crusade Sure did. You'll also note that someone else directed it, AND someone else did the screenplay.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:55
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Ok so you like one movie he made So he can make movies you like
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Jan 24, 2020 18:57
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Hi. They're good. Bye.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:57
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OT Force: Judge me by my size do you? Hm? And well you should not! For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us...and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. PT Force: The midicholorian is the powerhouse of the Force! Judge me by my midichlorian count do you? Good job because that's the standard, and you've perfectly quantified my power. Now at lower levels you're oging to want to put points into vitality and spirit, but later on we'll move those into advanced attributes once your gear supports it.
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Jan 24, 2020 18:58
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zoux posted:OT Force: Judge me by my size do you? Hm? And well you should not! For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us...and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. Exactly The Jedi were dumb as gently caress
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Jan 24, 2020 18:59
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For someone who doesn’t like the PT Zoux you keep pointing out reasons it’s good !!!
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zoux posted:Here's another way in which the prequels make the OT worse: rather than being some weird ineffable afterlife that a strong Jedi inhabits, Create Force Ghost is actually at the top of the Sentinel skill tree so when Yoda hands Obi wan a build guide on how to spend his ability points so he could do it at the end of ROTS, did he pass it along to Luke on Bespin so he could give it to a newly-rehabilitated Anakin in the last moments of his life on the off chance he repented at the end? It's a good drat thing the respec vendor was so close to the throne room How would they become strong Jedi other than training? 
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Jan 24, 2020 19:00
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euphronius posted:Ok so you like one movie he made He didn't make it. So, well, there's that then.
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Jan 24, 2020 19:04
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It's weird that in the prequel trilogy the Jedi act in one way, but then after acting that way brings everything crashing down they appear to act in a different way. I hope someone got fired for that blunder.
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Jan 24, 2020 19:04
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CainFortea posted:He didn't make it. So, well, there's that then. He did tho I’m looking at Wikipedia right now !!! (In another tab)
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Jan 24, 2020 19:05
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Yoda said "wars not make one great" but then he is shown in the prequels to have actually fought in the war which ended the Republic. I can't believe Lucas didn't put one second of thought into the script and as a result created this plot hole.
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Jan 24, 2020 19:06
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euphronius posted:Exactly They were pretty on the mark Could've dodged a whole lot if they had stuck by their "no nine year olds" rule even
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Mooey Cow posted:How would they become strong Jedi other than training? You're literally born a powerful Jedi or you aren't. Training serves no purpose except to indoctrinate.
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Jan 24, 2020 19:08
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everything in the prequels is dumb, boring and lovely on purpose, making them Good.
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Jan 24, 2020 19:08
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The cinematography, costumes, sound music etc are all not lovely
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Jan 24, 2020 19:10
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Like I cannot believe people are saying that George Lucas is a secret genius auteur who made the Prequels lovely on purpose.
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Jan 24, 2020 19:10
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euphronius posted:He did tho  nah you aint.
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CainFortea posted:
Lmao you cut off the EP
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Saint Drogo posted:everything in the prequels is dumb, boring and lovely on purpose, making them Good. Who What Now posted:Like I cannot believe people are saying that George Lucas is a secret genius auteur who made the Prequels lovely on purpose. People say this, but when you ask them for examples of things that are lovely it's always stuff like "the Clone Wars are different to how I imagined they probably would have been" or "Anakin is not portrayed as heroic" or "Watto wears a hat"
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Jan 24, 2020 19:12
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It’s literally made by Lucasfilm
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Who What Now posted:You're literally born a powerful Jedi or you aren't. Training serves no purpose except to indoctrinate. This is the sequel-view on the force. In the prequels training and competence and style matchup trumps pure power
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Jan 24, 2020 19:13
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Lucasfilm is a combination of the words Lucas and film Lucas refers to Lucas
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Well, he didn't produce it, didn't direct it, and didn't write the screen play. Please show me where it says he did and i'll totally retract my statements. oh wait, you can't cause even you know you're full of it!
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euphronius posted:Lucasfilm is a combination of the words Lucas and film We don't know it doesn't refer to Lucas uh There actually aren't that many people with the last name Lucas
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2house2fly posted:People say this, but when you ask them for examples of things that are lovely it's always stuff like "the Clone Wars are different to how I imagined they probably would have been" or "Anakin is not portrayed as heroic" or "Watto wears a hat" e: wait i didnt clock 'Watto wears a hat" loving lmao
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He was the executive producer !!!!
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Also it's really funny how you're super duper trying to prove he made The Last Crusade to show that he can make a good movie and ignoring the OT which he actually made and were good.
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CainFortea posted:Also it's really funny how you're super duper trying to prove he made The Last Crusade to show that he can make a good movie and ignoring the OT which he actually made and were good. No I’m trying to show that he can make movies the poster likes I don’t need to prove he can make good movies that is obvious as you mention
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Who What Now posted:You're literally born a powerful Jedi or you aren't. Training serves no purpose except to indoctrinate. There's the stuff that everyone can do if they have faith, like blowing up the Death Star without a targeting computer, walking blind across a battlefield, or discerning that the government is controlled by evil; and there's the stuff that you need to be a psychic mutant to learn, like levitating rocks.
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