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MourningView posted:I mean they mostly did anyway because Zion is such an overwhelming talent, but it was a truly disasterous coaching job all around. They didn't recruit enough shooters so they had terrible spacing that K compounded by playing a ton of minutes with a traditional five rather than just unleashing Zion as a center and putting Cam at the 4. They turned way too much of the offense over to an inferior player in RJ, who had a tendency to just put his head down and dribble right into the teeth of the defense without a plan and chuck up awkward layups or floaters. And he runs an outdated offense by NBA standards that called like 10 pick and rolls featuring Zion all year. it’s so wild to me that you could have someone as skilled as zion and an extended shot clock and not try loving wild poo poo like letting zion run the pick and roll with reddish or punishing dudes for running under a zion screen by turning it into a handoff since he can accelerate so quickly duke should’ve been a basketball laboratory and under a less joyless coach it might have been
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Poque posted:I used to live on that loving road, what the hell Look at this encino man here.
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:Interesting that two of the people who have first hand knowledge of how the NBA rigged the 2002 Western Conference Finals died in the same month "I have information that will lead to the arrest of Tim Donaghy"
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MourningView posted:I mean they mostly did anyway because Zion is such an overwhelming talent, but it was a truly disasterous coaching job all around. They didn't recruit enough shooters so they had terrible spacing that K compounded by playing a ton of minutes with a traditional five rather than just unleashing Zion as a center and putting Cam at the 4. They turned way too much of the offense over to an inferior player in RJ, who had a tendency to just put his head down and dribble right into the teeth of the defense without a plan and chuck up awkward layups or floaters. And he runs an outdated offense by NBA standards that called like 10 pick and rolls featuring Zion all year. Are any of the great NCAA coaches great tactical coaches? It just seems that the key to building great college teams is so focused on year to year recruiting and the short term gelling of young egos that being and x and o genius isn't a necessary part of the job.
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MourningView posted:I feel pretty confident that he's going to be better than Cousins if he's healthy. If Zion can be better than the Cousins in his heyday that would be an achievement in and of itself. When Cousins was with with a total poo poo show of an organisation known as the Sacramento Kings, he was capable of some balletic footwork on both ends of the floor that I, for one, had not seen before in a player of his size/athleticism. For all his faults (regularly falling asleep on defense) and impatience (fighting and acting like a diva), Cousins was able to improve his game at a pretty impressive rate very early in his NBA career. He quickly evolved into a 1st class defender and a dangerous perimeter shooter, while continuing to be an effective all-around offensive player and an insanely good rebounder on both ends. Put some respect on it, friend.
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Lockback posted:The halycon days of Family-Oriented Strip Clubs.
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Declan MacManus posted:it’s so wild to me that you could have someone as skilled as zion and an extended shot clock and not try loving wild poo poo like letting zion run the pick and roll with reddish or punishing dudes for running under a zion screen by turning it into a handoff since he can accelerate so quickly The amount of potential that is fulfilled by every basketball team is negatively correlated with the amount of control the coach has. Go watch some euro hoops if you want to see this play out in a non college setting.
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Bip Roberts posted:Are any of the great NCAA coaches great tactical coaches? It just seems that the key to building great college teams is so focused on year to year recruiting and the short term gelling of young egos that being and x and o genius isn't a necessary part of the job. They're all great tactical coaches. They are bad strategic coaches. Because there is so much player turnover, the team builds around the coach and his system. Over time, the coach tinkers with the system, perfecting it, making small changes to account for rules changes and league trends, but keeping the system stable. If the player he recruits would be more effective in a different system, the system stays and the player can go gently caress himself, because at the end of the year he will turn pro and the coach will still be on the same team trying to win games.
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Bip Roberts posted:Are any of the great NCAA coaches great tactical coaches? It just seems that the key to building great college teams is so focused on year to year recruiting and the short term gelling of young egos that being and x and o genius isn't a necessary part of the job. Chris Beard and Jay Wright would be the two best current examples, in my opinion bornbytheriver posted:If Zion can be better than the Cousins in his heyday that would be an achievement in and of itself. Was not a knock on Cousins, who was very good. I just don't think he ever got all that close to being a MVP candidate, which is what I think Zion will be MourningView fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jan 27, 2020 |
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Kibner posted:He took a lot of charges, but I wouldn't ever really say Cousins was a good defender. Fine, Kibner, I'll give you that. Though yesterday Hubie Brown almost ejaculated live on TV when Gordon I-am-made-of-glass Hayward took a charge.
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bornbytheriver posted:Though yesterday Hubie Brown almost ejaculated live on TV when Gordon I-am-made-of-glass Hayward took a charge. People complain about Hubie but he's bizarrely one of the few guys now on major broadcasts that make a game more exciting
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MourningView posted:Was not a knock on Cousins, who was very good. I just don't think he ever got all that close to being a MVP candidate, which is what I think Zion will be Sorry, I should have said that my reply to your post was not meant to be a dig at you.
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bornbytheriver posted:Fine, Kibner, I'll give you that. Nah, you fine. Defense is hard to judge and stats don't always tell the story. Boogie had really quick hands but he used them as a crutch too much and would often play lazy defense by swiping at the ball instead of getting his body in a better position to contest. He was stout in the post, probably because he never jumped so didn't fall for many pump-fakes. I wouldn't say he was bad when he was at his best. Probably just solid/average. Some strengths, some weaknesses. Not a game changer on that end of the floor, good or bad.
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Cousins was good at drawing charges, was immovable in the post, and had some quick hands for steals. He was bad on the perimeter, attention span would wane off the ball, and would be grab/reach happy. But being a mixed bag was definitely an improvement from where he came in, and I think the original argument was that he continually improved himself each year.
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MelancholyMark posted:https://twitter.com/FredKatz/status/1221868813312053251 Was the 81 point game not recorded in HD?
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MelancholyMark posted:https://twitter.com/FredKatz/status/1221868813312053251 That game is legitimately one of the most fun games I have ever watched
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NickRoweFillea posted:That game is legitimately one of the most fun games I have ever watched Completely overshadowed the 73rd win lol
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NickRoweFillea posted:That game is legitimately one of the most fun games I have ever watched That game really was insane to watch on tv.
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MelancholyMark posted:https://twitter.com/FredKatz/status/1221868813312053251 They should play that game, the game against Dallas where he out scored them on his own through three quarters, the 81 point game, then, uh... the Trail Blazers and Knicks 60 point games? Just do one game each night though Friday.
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