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Ingmar terdman posted:Sheev is the only guy in the galaxy that is having a great time, all the time
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ruddiger posted:Does Luke even know Rey’s heritage when he’s alive? I assumed he got the info once he died and Yoda or whoever told him. He claims that he and Leia both knew. How they knew this aside, I don't know when they even would've had the chance to discuss this.
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Jan 29, 2020 22:37
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Maybe John and Jane Palpatine tried to drop their daughter off at Luke’s school only for him to turn them away.
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Jan 29, 2020 22:43
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General Dog posted:He claims that he and Leia both knew. How they knew this aside, I don't know when they even would've had the chance to discuss this. You can probably hand wave it as Leia knowing from sensing it in the Force or something, and Luke finding out when he reconnected to the Force and contacted her, and maybe that was why he stormed straight over to Rey's hut to yell at her. But I dunno, why bother
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Jan 29, 2020 22:48
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General Dog posted:Conversation between Rey and Luke should have gone: Rey: Why didn't you tell me I was Palpatine's granddaughter? Luke: Because your grandfather was a huge loser and basically a nobody until like two hours ago and you already thought your parents were nobody, so, you see, what I told you was true, from, a certain point of view. Rey: Fair enough
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Jan 29, 2020 22:55
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Literally a wizard did it.
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Neo Rasa posted:Rey: Why didn't you tell me I was Palpatine's granddaughter? Rey: Why didn't you tell me I was Palpatine's granddaughter? Luke: I'm sorry, it was a very late script change based on feedback from focus groups! They made me come back three months later to record these lines! Rey: Fair enough
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YOLOsubmarine posted:Rey: Why didn't you tell me I was Palpatine's granddaughter?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Kylo killing Han? Kylo killing Han is pretty much irrelevant in ROTS. Hell, it's irrelevant in TLJ. They don't talk about it and it certainly doesn't get in the way of ReyLo. Kylo being shaken by Leia saying 'BEN' would probably seem weird if you didn't watch the previous movies. I can't remember if they mention their relationship.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Kylo killing Han is pretty much irrelevant in ROTS. Hell, it's irrelevant in TLJ. They don't talk about it and it certainly doesn't get in the way of ReyLo. Rey and Kylo talk about it in TLJ. And of course Kylo attempting to murder Leia is a reminder of that too
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Remember when Rey had force lightning and killed Chewbacca but then it turns out she didn’t and was never addressed again?
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Jewmanji posted:Rey and Kylo talk about it in TLJ. And of course Kylo attempting to murder Leia is a reminder of that too I honestly don't remember this. When did they talk about it?
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:I honestly don't remember this. When did they talk about it? In snokes throne room. Also Kylo killing Han is a driving force for his character. He keeps trying to up his evil game after that
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Jan 30, 2020 00:34
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In their second Force Skype Rey asks why he killed Han and "let the past die" etc is his answer
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2house2fly posted:In their second Force Skype Rey asks why he killed Han and "let the past die" etc is his answer Which is a real non-answer in context btw
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No it's not, he killed Han to sever his connection with his past and reach his full potential, unlike Rey who he thinks is handicapped by her abandonment issues
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2house2fly posted:No it's not, he killed Han to sever his connection with his past and reach his full potential, unlike Rey who he thinks is handicapped by her abandonment issues To reach his full potential to do what? Kill his mom and uncle? There’s never a clear end game with this guy, despite the fact that he seems incredibly driven toward some opaque goal.
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General Dog posted:To reach his full potential to do what? Be pure evil
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to be a fully realized and potent adult instead of manchild virgin didnt work out too well for him
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General Dog posted:To reach his full potential to do what? Kill his mom and uncle? There’s never a clear end game with this guy, despite the fact that he seems incredibly driven toward some opaque goal. Ben Solo’s goal is to “finish what Vader started” - which is unexplained in the Disney films but, in the context of Empire Strikes Back, means full communism. He kills Han because Han is attempting to ‘seduce Ben to the light’, which is synonymous with moderate, centrist politics. Ben reaches a low point after Rey explodes a bomb in his face, but then gets better after Rey kills Leia telepathically in one of her rage outbursts.
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Kylo Ren's goal is to finish what vader started which means have a son and have the son rule with him over the galaxy. Unfortunately he missed health class at uncle lukes school because it burned down. Killing his father and letting his mother get him murdered is just him having a long oedipal moment that could have been resolved if anybody told him what they actually meant by "wear a helmet"
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Jewmanji posted:Rey and Kylo talk about it in TLJ. And of course Kylo attempting to murder Leia is a reminder of that too He and Snoke talk about it in the first throne room scene as well.
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https://twitter.com/ikolism/status/1222513603087077381?s=20 This kids' book guide to episode 9 is driving me crazy, I need to see more of it
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Cat Machine posted:its gonna come out soon that mark hamill did his rise of skywalker ADR on an iphone in an arbys bathroom the weekend before the film released In case it hasn't already been posted, you're not far off.
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SMG please expand on Vader’s full communism thank you
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2house2fly posted:https://twitter.com/ikolism/status/1222513603087077381?s=20 Kylo likes red lightsabers and long walks on the beach. I like how they have nothing to say about the knights of Ren. This guy has a club, this guys mask looks like a smile? This guy accidentally makes people more scared of him. Such menacing foes. 
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Kylo killing Han is pretty much irrelevant in ROTS.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:“Mystery Box” is a fake meme. Disney did have a basic plan: the failure of the New Republic, an OT protagonist dying in each film, Darth Plagueis as a secret villain, Evil Rey, Stormtrooper rebellion, Redemption arc, etc. Was evil Rey there at the start? I know it becomes a big theme in TLJ but it seems pretty absent in TFA. I'm curious if there were any leaks from that time that point to a significantly different story. I know the editing of TFA is definitely weird in places which makes me think meddling, but to nowhere near the same degree as RoS.
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2house2fly posted:https://twitter.com/ikolism/status/1222513603087077381?s=20 “Man this looks neat, I’m not fixing it” - Kylo Ren 
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The Little Death posted:Was evil Rey there at the start? I know it becomes a big theme in TLJ but it seems pretty absent in TFA. I'm curious if there were any leaks from that time that point to a significantly different story. I know the editing of TFA is definitely weird in places which makes me think meddling, but to nowhere near the same degree as RoS. At the climax of TFA she uses the Dark Side to go beast mode and nearly kills Kylo
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multijoe posted:At the climax of TFA she uses the Dark Side to go beast mode and nearly kills Kylo *End of tyranny not guaranteed.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Ben Solo’s goal is to “finish what Vader started” - which is unexplained in the Disney films but, in the context of Empire Strikes Back, means full communism.
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Halloween Jack posted:I still do not understand how "rule the galaxy as father and son" means communism. Was George Lucas a devotee of Juche Thought? I forget the details but it has something to do with Vader being a melding of droids(the exploited underclass), and man(the ruling class).
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So we don't need democracy because the leader embodies the nature and will of the people? That's a different, specific, ideology.
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Basebf555 posted:I forget the details but it has something to do with Vader being a melding of droids(the exploited underclass), and man(the ruling class). Representation is important I guess.
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Halloween Jack posted:So we don't need democracy because the leader embodies the nature and will of the people? That's a different, specific, ideology. I dunno, I'm not gonna be able to fully explain it, I'm just remembering bits and pieces from past SMG posts.
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Basebf555 posted:I forget the details but it has something to do with Vader being a melding of droids(the exploited underclass), and man(the ruling class). Obama was a communist because he's a melding of black people and rich people
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Iirc the bounty hunters scene is important; Vader willingly puts himself among the "scum" the Empire disdains and gets on noticeably better with Boba Fett than he does with his own admirals
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He also flies around in the imperial flagship the size of a small country in order to enforce the will of the Emperor.
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