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Slash
Apr 7, 2011

I have paired an Ikea Tradfri strip-light to a Hue hub, and it shows up within the Hue app. It was a pain in the rear end to get it work initially, but once i managed to get them to pair up (following a guide on the internet) it has worked flawlessly.

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Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell


This doesn't inspire much confidence. :(

Binary Badger
Oct 11, 2005

Trolling Link for a decade


WyzeCam users: upgrading to the latest firmware ending in .98 will remove the XNOR AI that allows the camera to detect people.

If you want to keep the people finder feature, don't upgrade your WyzeCam.

They say that they'll have an in-house developed AI available.. sometime.

Rapulum_Dei
Sep 7, 2009

Thermopyle posted:

Is Hikvision still the IP camera to get?

I've seen Uniview being used by an installer as an hik alternative - they certainly look to be pitching themselves at the same level with similar specs but slightly cheaper.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Fallen Rib

Thermopyle posted:

This doesn't inspire much confidence. :(

The company has no ethics. Neither do Hik.

Never let these see the internet, that should go without saying.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

sharkytm posted:

The company has no ethics. Neither do Hik.

Never let these see the internet, that should go without saying.

"No ethics" = "Actively obfuscating backdoors and participating in genocide"

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Fallen Rib

LastInLine posted:

"No ethics" = "Actively obfuscating backdoors and participating in genocide"

AKA "Chinese security or technology company"

See also: Hauwei, ZTE, Hikvision, Lorex (owner by dahua now), and dozens of others.

Foscam is an option, but I'll bet there are backdoors and security issues with their stuff too. They're Chinese owned, and I don't know of any major audits of their stuff.

The only major player that I know of who isn't in a controversy is Axis Communications. Axis stuff is great, it's just 4x the price, and still shouldn't be on the open internet.

:shrug:

You want it to be 100% ethical? Source your own components, manufacture it however you see fit, and write your own code.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

sharkytm posted:

You want it to be 100% ethical? Source your own components, manufacture it however you see fit, and write your own code.

I'm happily using my Reolinks that I've previously mentioned. Yep, they sure do call home to China, but they can't get there when you put them on their own little jail vlan that contains nothing other than cameras and one interface from your DVR, has no default gateway and no way to get to any other VLAN/anything else on the network.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
Anyone here ever tried scripting some logic around motion and a CO2 sensor for presence detection?

Rapulum_Dei
Sep 7, 2009

sharkytm posted:

AKA "Chinese security or technology company"

There are ethical corporations?

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Rapulum_Dei posted:

There are ethical corporations?

I am an LLC with a total number of employees equaling 1.

I like to think of myself as ethical!

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...
Siri, show me "Ethical Consumption Under Capitalism"

Sneeze Party
Apr 26, 2002

These are, by far, the most brilliant photographs that I have ever seen, and you are a GOD AMONG MEN.
Toilet Rascal
I'd like to set up two or three in-home cameras, but I want to do it entirely in-house. I've got a Synology NAS that I'm going to use as my recording device. I'm just trying to figure out which cameras to purchase. I would need two outdoor and one indoor camera and I'd like to record at 1080p. I don't need to pan/tilt/zoom the cameras remotely, though it would be a novel addition. Good night-time vision is preferable, but it doesn't need to be at any great distance. Maybe 20 feet would cut it. They'll connect via wifi.

Any recommendations for camera make and model? Synology lists a SHITLOAD of compatible devices, and it's a little overwhelming to go through their list.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Combat Pretzel posted:

Anyone here ever tried scripting some logic around motion and a CO2 sensor for presence detection?

CO2 sensors? Do you have any idea how much something with meaningful sensitivity for an application like that would cost? I'm not even sure it's feasible at any budget.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Motronic posted:

CO2 sensors? Do you have any idea how much something with meaningful sensitivity for an application like that would cost? I'm not even sure it's feasible at any budget.
I have recently gotten one of those Netatmo ones. It picks up an increase of CO2 when I enter and do things in the room, and it drops slowly, when I'm gone and it has some time to dissipate again.



It's probably accurate enough to look for a drop. When the motion sensor detects someone, it'd read the current CO2 and define a threshold value below what it has to fall to consider the room vacated longterm. Or something like that. Probably in combination with some delay to deal with crap like airing the room. At least that incredible machine type of scheme in my mind kind of looks like it might work.

--edit:
I still need to get and fiddle around with these Aqara vibration sensors, to detect working in the office, too.

Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jan 31, 2020

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Combat Pretzel posted:

I have recently gotten one of those Netatmo ones. It picks up an increase of CO2 when I enter and do things in the room, and it drops slowly, when I'm gone and it has some time to dissipate again.



Huh, look at that. I suppose that's feasible for a room of whatever size you're in. I was thinking more along the lines of "home presence", but perhaps with enough of those even that would be possible.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
I'm surprised it accumulates/reacts that quickly already. That tiny bump in the middle of it was entering the room for 10 minutes at around 5am before heading to work.

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Patent idea: Automated fart detection system that names and shames.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

priznat posted:

Patent idea: Automated fart detection system that names and shames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvB0wRFebus

Rapulum_Dei
Sep 7, 2009

Thermopyle posted:

I am an LLC with a total number of employees equaling 1.

I like to think of myself as ethical!

But that’s just for carpooling so you’re ok.

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
I just want to get some Alexa-controllable dimmable lights for my basement overhead cans. There are 10 of them total, the BR30 type. I don't want to mess with any wiring.

So what it seems like is I should get a Hue hub and their BR30 ambiance lights. I can't imagine needing color for anything, but the white balance shifting seems like it could be useful.

I don't see a BR30 starter kit, so it appears I would buy 5x of these at $42 each and then a hub. The Hub seems to cost around $50, but is there some reason not to get this one? which comes with 3 regular bulbs? Is it an older model or something? I know those bulbs aren't ambiance, but a hubs a hub right?

Are there really significant reasons to go with something other than Hue? It seems like I could save maybe $5 a light and not use a hub with some other brands, but Hue seems to boast relative stability and continued support.

Has anyone put A19 bulbs in overhead cans? That would be a lot cheaper at the cost of looking a little weird. How often are you looking at the actual bulbs though?

HycoCam
Jul 14, 2016

You should have backed Transverse!
Few ways to do the dimmable lights.

The Hue solution works and is probably the easiest and the costliest.

Halo makes a ZigBee controlled light if you have a home automation hub of some type already. The only issue with lights is you can't use a dimmer switch with them--you have to dim them via a routine or home automation interface.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B073P7HXHY

You could also replace your light switches if you have a neutral in the each box needing a smart switch: https://smile.amazon.com/GE-Repeater-Required-Works-Smartthings-14295/dp/B06XV25Z5R.

The switch solution is going to need a hub as well to work, but is going to be the least expensive option over replacing 10 bulbs.

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

sharkytm posted:

The company has no ethics. Neither do Hik.

Never let these see the internet, that should go without saying.

Stupid question, you're saying these cameras (by Dahua and Hikvision) work also with no internet connection? Is there like a list of which ones of them are fine with just local closed ethernet (no internet), and which ones require some call-home bullshit or something?

If everything works fine with just local-only PoE and that's it then these gadgets might not be that horrible (ethics aside). But I couldn't easily find out whether some kind of internet connection is required or not, and for which models

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

jaete posted:

Stupid question, you're saying these cameras (by Dahua and Hikvision) work also with no internet connection? Is there like a list of which ones of them are fine with just local closed ethernet (no internet), and which ones require some call-home bullshit or something?

If everything works fine with just local-only PoE and that's it then these gadgets might not be that horrible (ethics aside). But I couldn't easily find out whether some kind of internet connection is required or not, and for which models

The search term you're looking for is "IP camera"...which are cameras that connect to your network and is generally accepted to mean cameras where you control where the video goes. Whether it goes to the internet or not is an incidental effect of how you configure the camera and your network.

As another hint, if the camera requires an app of some sort, 99% of the time it's going to be some sort of cloud-based thing.

Rapulum_Dei
Sep 7, 2009
Many (most) IP cameras have a built in web server for configuration so you bypass the need for software. Most can output an rtsp video stream and/or are ONVIF compliant. There’s no need for the cameras to touch the internet. The cloud account is really only if you want remote access. For that convenience you’re using a third party server to route connection to your cameras. You have no idea what data they collect and what they do with it. Of course you _can_ see what traffic leaves your home network. If someone in [shadowy cabal] was routinely streaming feeds from your front yard that’d be pretty clear in your traffic data.
Assuming the router isn’t compromised too ofc.
Personally I believe my information is more likely to be abused by private entities like google, Facebook and amazon than be of use to Chairman Mao’s big rock candy mountain.


So I’m at the point in my smart home journey where I’m eyeing up my old fashioned wired intruder alarm - a ready installed network of door and motion sensors. It looks like integration into home assistant was going along nicely till the main guy decided to commercialise it and make konnected.io

Has anyone used esphome binary sensors reading from the standard pir and door sensors wired alarms use? I’m not sure it’s as easy as one wire and a ‘Schottky diode’ to convert the 12v signal to 5v.

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer
I have two dumb mini-split ACs in different rooms I'd like to control remotely. Is there a decent budget option for this?

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

The only sword wielding rabbit on the internet



Ultra Carp
So recently purchased a house and was looking to upgrade all the locks to smart/electronic locks. (Also planning on having a renter in the house so ideal to change codes when they leave)

Locks only keep honest people out and unless I'm planning to fortify my doors I realize any lock is just a lock. That being said I was looking at buying the "Schlage BE469ZP CAM 619 Connect Smart Deadbolt with Alarm with Camelot Trim in Satin Nickel, Z-Wave Plus Enabled"

Any big security concerns like it can be jiggled open or waving a magnet opens the door sort of flaws?
Also if I buy the used/unopened locks from kijii is there a way for someone to backdoor the lock, and is it secure to use used locks or just go for peace of mind and buy everything new from the warehouse?

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Chillyrabbit posted:

So recently purchased a house and was looking to upgrade all the locks to smart/electronic locks. (Also planning on having a renter in the house so ideal to change codes when they leave)

Locks only keep honest people out and unless I'm planning to fortify my doors I realize any lock is just a lock. That being said I was looking at buying the "Schlage BE469ZP CAM 619 Connect Smart Deadbolt with Alarm with Camelot Trim in Satin Nickel, Z-Wave Plus Enabled"

Any big security concerns like it can be jiggled open or waving a magnet opens the door sort of flaws?
Also if I buy the used/unopened locks from kijii is there a way for someone to backdoor the lock, and is it secure to use used locks or just go for peace of mind and buy everything new from the warehouse?

I use that lock. It seems fine and in my internet travels I don't recall anyone posting about any particular security concerns.

Note that it's zwave, so you'll need a zwave hub and automation system to take advantage of its smart features. (Other than setting codes, which you can do from the lock itself)

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT
I also have the same lock (3 years now). No issues.

Cornjob
Jun 12, 2007

NOT AN ACTOR

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

I have two dumb mini-split ACs in different rooms I'd like to control remotely. Is there a decent budget option for this?

Need more info. Are they currently controlled via remote? IR? RF?

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer

Cornjob posted:

Need more info. Are they currently controlled via remote? IR? RF?

Oh sorry, they’re both IR with absolutely no smart features.

One of them has Inverter technology and the other doesn’t, in case that changes anything.

There’s 100% no way that any point in the house will have line of sight to both of them.

Rapulum_Dei
Sep 7, 2009
https://www.hackster.io/BuddyC/ir-controller-for-air-conditioner-5bd0a2

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer
Hah, maybe not that low budget although that looks like a fun project.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Fallen Rib

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

Hah, maybe not that low budget although that looks like a fun project.

That's kinda the only way. Record the IR pattern, replay it on command. If it's a smart remote, then it's sending a complex pattern that completely configures the wall unit each time. I'd suggest recording a couple of common modes and replaying those instead of trying to decipher the encoding scheme.

AC on, 72 degrees, fan auto
AC Off, fan on low
AC on, 78 degrees, fan auto
Heat to 60, fan auto
Heat to 68, fan auto

That sort of poo poo.

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer
Yeah, mostly I just wanted a prepackaged product but searching around you either have expensive IR blasters or DIY kits like these.

I might order the parts at some point and give it a shot.

Thanks!

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

Yeah, mostly I just wanted a prepackaged product but searching around you either have expensive IR blasters or DIY kits like these.

I might order the parts at some point and give it a shot.

Thanks!

There's potentially a third option. Some mini splits have provisions for being controlled by standard thermostat control. If yours does and/or there is an add on box to make that work you can then choose your "smart" or connected thermostat to hook up.

Deceptive Thinker
Oct 5, 2005

I'll rip out your optics!
you could also perhaps check to see if logitech harmony has it in its database and use a harmony hub with IR extenders that are usually included in the kits

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer
Ah, I didn't know that the Harmony had IR extenders, that could work out. Thanks!

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
Is there an Alexa command that will reset my Hue lights back to whatever they were before the previous command? For example, after a routine which dims several lights and changes color temp to watch a movie, I would like it to go back to what it was before, which may or may not have been all on or all off or whatever. I could make several custom routines for various common configurations, but what if I could just go back to how it was?

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Cornjob
Jun 12, 2007

NOT AN ACTOR

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

Ah, I didn't know that the Harmony had IR extenders, that could work out. Thanks!

Yeah get a Harmony hub for each split. You can learn the commands. If you have a echo plus with temperature sensing, you can trigger alexa routines to send commands based on temp.

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