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Squalid posted:Interestingly i was looking at one Ming dynasty sword manual recently and it didn't look anything like modern chinese opera moves, but seemed very similar to early Modern European dueling treatises. I would like to know more.
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Feb 6, 2020 14:17
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oh dope posted:This is why when you're taking your motorcycle driving test, they have you go around a bunch of koans 
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Feb 6, 2020 14:24
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Squalid posted:TCM I did Taekwondo through highschool and college, and it was in the early days of UFC. Until I got older, sparring was mostly point style, with light-ish contact and pads, no elbows, knees, lots of kicks and punches and sweeps. Later on I went to a dojo where we would spar after hours and kick the poo poo out of each other, and it was pretty fun but I would be all bruised up and eventually quit due to injuries and life. MMA came onto the scene in a real way and it proved that boxing, wrestling and jujitsu, are the most important things in real fights. Your average person looking to work out and learn a little self defense could benefit from TCM but won't become a pro fighter, those people are on some other plane of existence where pain is an option, and training with these people can get you seriously hurt (MMA gyms type of Medium contact sparring that is essentially a real loving fight and it's nuts)...so there's a place for TCM for sure, but it's not against trained cage fighters. Btw, this is what happens when you let fighters do post fight gloating (ufc does not allow this):   
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Feb 6, 2020 14:35
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Platystemon fucked around with this message at 14:52 on Feb 6, 2020 |
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Feb 6, 2020 14:46
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Taking his Antony Starr cosplay a bit too far I'd say.
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Feb 6, 2020 14:54
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Whybird posted:They say step-dad but you just know there are people watching this imagining he's beating the poo poo out of his actual biological father 
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Feb 6, 2020 15:08
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Oddly enough Jackie Chan movies are often praised for making fight scenes feel real since they involve use of improvised weapons, taking advantage of the environment, and in general having characters act in ways that feel realistic and sensible, with Jackie Chan's character generally a believable underdog rather than an unstoppable force plowing through endless thugs like a video game character. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1PCtIaM_GQ He's a master of his class because he has some certain film techniques, but he's also a huge perfectionist who will do over a hundred tries of one shot to get it right. This tends to be painful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raNbeyA7YHE
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Feb 6, 2020 15:31
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https://i.imgur.com/gl9M6Cy.mp4
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Feb 6, 2020 15:39
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The one honest guy at the ER
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Feb 6, 2020 15:47
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That one literally got an "Ooooh!" out of me.
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Feb 6, 2020 16:08
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Azhais posted:The one honest guy at the ER My exact thought! 
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Feb 6, 2020 16:18
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Tha tain’t right.
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Feb 6, 2020 16:19
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The 'ole 'One in a Million' dismount. 9/10
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Feb 6, 2020 17:26
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ahhh the classic "look around to make sure no one saw that then waddle around in extreme gooch pain" move
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Feb 6, 2020 17:29
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Squalid posted:i think the best way to think about and classify these "categories of fighting" is by putting it into its context and purpose. I put fighting schools into three basic categories: stage fighting, sport fighting, and hand to hand self-defense. Yeah that all sounds right to me. And what you were just saying, a goon said that earlier that if you look at traditional Chinese military they used swordfighting more like other styles and not like the more flowery stuff that you see now. But yeah, not very fun if UFC becomes "who's got the best dick punch" Speaking of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Th_SwhJIhU
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Feb 6, 2020 17:47
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Humphreys posted:There was a security guard at the club I worked that was really REALLY into Wing Chung and slap boxing. Bopped him on the nose through all the arm waving poo poo in seconds. I even made a 'boop' sound for extra laugh. I was about to say "wow, bare-knuckle? Surprised they don't break their hands" But then they have bindings on their hands... and MMA fighters in UFC don't exactly wear boxing gloves. Its not that different. Although I guess the difference here is its MMA but with boxing rules, so you can't grapple, and even if you knock somebody down they still get a count to come to their feet? Welcome to Brain Damage, USA.
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Feb 6, 2020 17:57
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Zaphod42 posted:I was about to say "wow, bare-knuckle? Surprised they don't break their hands" Honestly? Without the gloves you are actually less likely to cause brain damage. The gloves increase the mass of your hands so hitting with gloves actually imparts more force. Also gloves let you hit harder. Boxing gloves have probably made boxing less bloody, but they have also made it more prone to causing serious brain injury.
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Feb 6, 2020 18:11
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Incredible strength and composure. Can this power be learned?
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Feb 6, 2020 18:19
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Humphreys posted:There was a security guard at the club I worked that was really REALLY into Wing Chung and slap boxing. Bopped him on the nose through all the arm waving poo poo in seconds. I even made a 'boop' sound for extra laugh. Come to rowdy ringsports and check out the Streetbeefs thread. It's got everything you want:: an owner/promoter who has never been beaten! In that he gets beaten a lot, isn't very good, and then somehow his losses become wins or no contests. People who have no business being in a fight in any capacity! Sometimes, actually decent boxing! A man who is on a quest to somehow have his belief in Goku-level what the gently caress martial arts translate into reality! All this and more, here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3883865
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Feb 6, 2020 18:46
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Zaphod42 posted:I was about to say "wow, bare-knuckle? Surprised they don't break their hands" I remember some paper a few years back where they put forward the idea that the human hand evolved for better face punching and faces changed over time to take a punch better. With the changes slowly going away as humanity has weaponized and grown more peaceful on individual and societal levels.
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Feb 6, 2020 18:58
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No wonder they were demoted to Rim Cleaner from Oil Checker.
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Feb 6, 2020 18:58
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah that all sounds right to me. And what you were just saying, a goon said that earlier that if you look at traditional Chinese military they used swordfighting more like other styles and not like the more flowery stuff that you see now. I love how the second guy just looks so awkward when he realizes what he did.
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Feb 6, 2020 19:06
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chitoryu12 posted:I love how the second guy just looks so awkward when he realizes what he did. POW! Right in the pisser!
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Feb 6, 2020 19:27
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Samovar posted:I would like to know more.
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Feb 6, 2020 19:42
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The dude with the broke noggin, you really need to see the video just to hear the VERY loud *WHAP* and crowd just going "Oooooooooohhhh".
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Feb 6, 2020 19:59
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:The dude with the broke noggin, you really need to see the video just to hear the VERY loud *WHAP* and crowd just going "Oooooooooohhhh". It sounds like a coconut being cracked open on concrete. Its one of the most viscerally disturbing sounds I've ever heard in an MMA fight.
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Feb 6, 2020 20:04
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You can't catch a fainted pokemon, idiot!
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Feb 6, 2020 20:04
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Who What Now posted:You can't catch a fainted pokemon, idiot! He looked like he was still using Splash.
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Feb 6, 2020 20:21
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Guyver posted:I remember some paper a few years back where they put forward the idea that the human hand evolved for better face punching and faces changed over time to take a punch better. With the changes slowly going away as humanity has weaponized and grown more peaceful on individual and societal levels. wouldnt this require dozens of thousands of years of humans being punchmanz to eachother or some sort of punching predator ( or a even a prey, maybe even a plant)
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Feb 6, 2020 20:35
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The human hand is awful for punching, which is why fist hardening is a thing in some martial arts. They're intentionally caused by microfractures, which get extra calcium deposits as they heal and eventually strengthen the fists. Downside: enjoy your arthritis
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Feb 6, 2020 20:41
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Hands are pretty high up on the list of “worst things to break in a fight”, though I’d say feet and legs are the worst, considering you can still run away with a broken hand or arm.
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Feb 6, 2020 20:47
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Regalingualius posted:Hands are pretty high up on the list of “worst things to break in a fight”, though I’d say feet and legs are the worst, considering you can still run away with a broken hand or arm. Try sprinting with a broken arm.
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Feb 6, 2020 20:49
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Guyver posted:I remember some paper a few years back where they put forward the idea that the human hand evolved for better face punching and faces changed over time to take a punch better. With the changes slowly going away as humanity has weaponized and grown more peaceful on individual and societal levels. what the human hand evolved for gripping tree branches, like most primates
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Feb 6, 2020 20:50
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Chomp8645 posted:Try sprinting with a broken arm. Pretty sure you can still go faster than hopping.
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Feb 6, 2020 20:53
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SilvergunSuperman posted:Pretty sure you can still go faster than hopping. You can, but if the objective is "run away from a fight"... that ain't happening against a person without anything broken.
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Feb 6, 2020 21:02
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iirc it's better to punch bare fisted with your knuckles vertical, and that's the form 19th century boxers used
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Feb 6, 2020 21:14
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grumplestiltzkin posted:The human hand is awful for punching, which is why fist hardening is a thing in some martial arts. They're intentionally caused by microfractures, which get extra calcium deposits as they heal and eventually strengthen the fists. I've had this discussion with my martial arts buddies a lot. For what its worth, back in the Renaissance/Middle Ages when people were fighting alot, there is almost no record/treatise surviving from that time period that details anything like boxing/striking. The few bits we've recovered show some open handed strikes/slaps, and I believe a single hammerfist attack, but is otherwise devoid of any closed fist striking. We've surmised that back when killing people was a much more regular and common occurence that the understanding was the human hand is in almost all cases better suited holding an object (or prefferably a weapon) rather than just striking with a fist. There's plenty of joint locks and standing submissions so the analog of modern JJ/BJJ is present and confirmed efficacious. I just kind of took it to mean that there's way too much risk vs the reward for using your hands as weapons themselves, and even in mundane unarmed scenarios you were better suited picking up a rock or literally anything (and we've got lots of records of them showing a sundry collection of random items as weapons) to believe the modality of the time confirmed just how inadvisable closed fist striking is.
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Feb 6, 2020 21:15
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Chomp8645 posted:You can, but if the objective is "run away from a fight"... that ain't happening against a person without anything broken. Uh, you can absolutely run with something in your upper body broken. Will it hurt? Yes. But your body is physically capable of it. Try running with a broken leg. This is a truly dumb argument.
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Feb 6, 2020 21:17
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Guyver posted:I remember some paper a few years back where they put forward the idea that the human hand evolved for better face punching and faces changed over time to take a punch better. With the changes slowly going away as humanity has weaponized and grown more peaceful on individual and societal levels. Did this end with the conclusion "and that's why the blacks with their giant hands and punch-resistant noses are inherently warlike."?
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Feb 6, 2020 21:18
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Try running with a broken leg. Fitting Username/Post combo
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Feb 6, 2020 21:18
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