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Was Batista a draw?
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Feb 8, 2020 18:57
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Yes.
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Feb 8, 2020 18:58
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Mr. Perfect lost his unbeaten streak to Warrior, but had a program with Hogan and became one of the best IC champs ever afterwards. Lost it to Beefcake at Wrestlemania, not Warrior.
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Feb 8, 2020 19:07
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I laughed at beefcake in real life and posted "lol" here but you really shouldn't post only a Lol. So I don't know what to say in this edit, to make up for it. WHo has the best haircut in wrestling.
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Feb 8, 2020 19:09
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Suzuki
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Feb 8, 2020 19:15
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Flip Gordon's stupid hair.
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Feb 8, 2020 19:55
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oh but seriously I posted:the canonical pro-wrestling finale is the Stephanie - Test wedding episode
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Feb 8, 2020 20:10
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Cavauro posted:I laughed at beefcake in real life and posted "lol" here but you really shouldn't post only a Lol. So I don't know what to say in this edit, to make up for it. WHo has the best haircut in wrestling. Tanahashi. Regardless of when asked. Yes, even during his soccer mom bob phase.
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Feb 8, 2020 20:16
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Low Desert Punk posted:Was Batista a draw? PPV buys from Batista's first year as champion in 2005. Royal Rumble: 575,000 (Batista wins the Rumble) No Way Out: 240,000 (JBL/Big Show) Wrestlemania: 980,000 (Batista/HHH) Backlash: 320,000 (Batista/HHH) Judgement Day: 260,000 (Cena/JBL) Vengeance: 420,000 (Batista/HHH) Great American Bash: 280,000 (Batista/JBL) Summerslam: 650,000 (HBK/Hogan) Unforgiven: 250,000 (Cena/Angle) No Mercy: 230,000 (Batista/Eddie) Taboo Tuesday: 250,000 (Cena/HBK/Angle) Survivor Series: 400,000 (Batista captain team Smackdown) Armageddon: 320,000 (Undertaker/Orton) Batista was drawing great numbers until No Mercy. What happened there?
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Feb 8, 2020 20:37
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I love that JBL had the shittiest numbers in that span
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Feb 8, 2020 20:47
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Benne posted:I love that JBL had the shittiest numbers in that span JBL turned me off wrestling for years, and I don't care how many revisionists know it.
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Feb 8, 2020 20:52
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I really liked Justin Hawk Bradshaw and Doug Basham/Damaja so I briefly convinced myself I liked the Cabinet until I watched some Smackdown.
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Feb 8, 2020 20:58
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:PPV buys from Batista's first year as champion in 2005. I don't see any real correlation between Batista and good or bad numbers there. Royal Rumble doesn't count, the average fan doesn't know ahead of time who will win the Rumble. WrestleMania always had the best buyrate of the year.
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Feb 8, 2020 20:58
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rujasu posted:I don't see any real correlation between Batista and good or bad numbers there. Royal Rumble doesn't count, the average fan doesn't know ahead of time who will win the Rumble. WrestleMania always had the best buyrate of the year. I agree but when I look back, Wrestlemania 21 beat Wrestlemania 20 by 95,000 buys and Wrestlemania 19 by an astonishing 420,000 buys. So surely the main event has to be at least partially responsible? And Batista's numbers for the rest of the year (minus No Mercy) are really only beaten by matches that include Michaels/Hogan/Undertaker so he was at least something of a draw. I'd pull up the 2006/2007 numbers but I'm too drunk.
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Feb 8, 2020 21:30
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I remember WM 19 being good but I think in the terms of draws it was really hurt by them pushing Vince vs Hogan over everything else and it turns out that people don't actually want to see Vince in the ring?
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Feb 8, 2020 21:52
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Hedgehog Pie posted:I remember WM 19 being good but I think in the terms of draws it was really hurt by them pushing Vince vs Hogan over everything else and it turns out that people don't actually want to see Vince in the ring? That and they had hosed up the booking of Brock/Angle. Instead of Brock being the giant unbeatable monster, he was the face for some dumb reason
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Feb 8, 2020 21:58
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TriffTshngo posted:Tanahashi. Regardless of when asked. Yes, even during his soccer mom bob phase. https://twitter.com/nwa/status/1226238137422241792?s=20
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Feb 8, 2020 22:00
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Hedgehog Pie posted:JBL turned me off wrestling for years, and I don't care how many revisionists know it. Coming back from not paying attention to wrestling for a few years to find Bradshaw had gone from the cigar chomping APA guy to a poor man's Ted Dibiase only with an actual main event push that Ted never got was so jarring. I couldn't buy it. It was sillier than Jinder getting a sudden main event push years later.
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Feb 8, 2020 22:14
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Randaconda posted:That and they had hosed up the booking of Brock/Angle. Instead of Brock being the giant unbeatable monster, he was the face for some dumb reason I had just started watching wrestling, so I was easy to impress, but Brock was pretty exciting and worked well as a dominant face who was chasing the belt after Heyman betrayed him.
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Feb 8, 2020 22:30
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Kennel posted:I had just started watching wrestling, so I was easy to impress, but Brock was pretty exciting and worked well as a dominant face who was chasing the belt after Heyman betrayed him. Yeah, it was worked, kinda, but I just think Angle as the underdog face trying to get the belt off the monster heel would have probably been better.
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Feb 8, 2020 22:44
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forkboy84 posted:It was sillier than Jinder getting a sudden main event push years later. I dunno, the premise that Jinder got his push because Vince felt he'd be the Mysterio for India is hard to beat in terms of silliness.
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Feb 8, 2020 23:56
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Hadn't Angle already been the face trying to capture the belt from Brock? Or was that later in 2003?
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Feb 9, 2020 00:14
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That was later. Kurt left after WM for a few months, came back face as friends with Brock and beat him for the title who turned on Kurt because he wanted to be champion.
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Feb 9, 2020 00:17
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I kind of love WWE's long term commitment to never even bothering to try and rehab or build up a guy when they decide they want to take him for loser to main eventer. Spent some time getting him over? Nah, just make him suddenly able to beat the guys who were squashing him a week ago. I also miss the era of "debut someone and have them immediately win a championship."
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Feb 9, 2020 00:47
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STAC Goat posted:I kind of love WWE's long term commitment to never even bothering to try and rehab or build up a guy when they decide they want to take him for loser to main eventer. Spent some time getting him over? Nah, just make him suddenly able to beat the guys who were squashing him a week ago. I love when they actually do try to build somebody before their debut/return from injury or whatever, then they go fifty/fifty with a midcarder in their first match so they are instantly slotted
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Feb 9, 2020 00:49
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Randaconda posted:I love when they actually do try to build somebody before their debut/return from injury or whatever, then they go fifty/fifty with a midcarder in their first match so they are instantly slotted Did you mean: Bryan vs Big Cass
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Feb 9, 2020 00:54
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projecthalaxy posted:Did you mean: Bryan vs Big Cass that also works, by the sound of it, but i don't watch much modern wwe these days
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Feb 9, 2020 00:56
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Randaconda posted:that also works, by the sound of it, but i don't watch much modern wwe these days Daniel Bryan heroically returned from neck issues not to chase the title or face his forever rival the Miz, but to 50/50 big cass and only win because Cass committed Little Person Crimes
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Feb 9, 2020 00:58
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If nothing else we got Bryan flat out calling out Cass in promo for being the shits in the ring, including the line "foot to the dome when your mama ain't home", promising he'd beat him BECAUSE Cass is poo poo, then defeating him cleanly. All because that big dope couldn't act right in a locker room that put up with JBL's rear end forc2 decades.
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Feb 9, 2020 01:00
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If you could take any two wrestlers from any year and combine them into the best wrestler who would you choose and why was it 2002 Brock Lesnar and 2014 Brock Lesnar?
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Feb 9, 2020 01:01
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projecthalaxy posted:Did you mean: Bryan vs Big Cass personally I was thinking of Asuka vs Emma
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Feb 9, 2020 01:02
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oldpainless posted:If you could take any two wrestlers from any year and combine them into the best wrestler who would you choose and why was it 2002 Brock Lesnar and 2014 Brock Lesnar? Loch Ness 1995 and fka Yokozuna 1999 fat++, sad++++
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Feb 9, 2020 01:06
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projecthalaxy posted:Daniel Bryan heroically returned from neck issues not to chase the title or face his forever rival the Miz, but to 50/50 big cass and only win because Cass committed Little Person Crimes actually he came back to help the valiant hero Shane mcmahon defeat the dastardly canadian heels Kevin owens and samuel zayn, iirc
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Feb 9, 2020 01:07
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oldpainless posted:If you could take any two wrestlers from any year and combine them into the best wrestler who would you choose and why was it 2002 Brock Lesnar and 2014 Brock Lesnar? Give Earthquake the Ultimate Warrior gimmick.
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Feb 9, 2020 01:09
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oldpainless posted:If you could take any two wrestlers from any year and combine them into the best wrestler who would you choose and why was it 2002 Brock Lesnar and 2014 Brock Lesnar? Scott Steiner from 1992 inring ability, Scott Steiner 1999 onwards persona Or Pillman from WWE era with his WCW preinjury skills Or Eddie Guerrero from the Lie Cheat and Steal era with his precar crash body and skill El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Feb 9, 2020 |
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Feb 9, 2020 01:12
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Eddie Guerrero from the Lie Cheat and Steal era with his precar crash body and skill and, most importantly, mullet e: El Gallinero Gros posted:Scott Steiner from 1992 inring ability, Scott Steiner 1999 onwards persona and, most importantly, mullets
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Feb 9, 2020 01:39
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LA Park with Hulk Hogan's push.
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Feb 9, 2020 04:06
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projecthalaxy posted:Daniel Bryan heroically returned from neck issues not to chase the title or face his forever rival the Miz, but to 50/50 big cass and only win because Cass committed Little Person Crimes Didn't Bryan actually win both matches?
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Feb 9, 2020 04:34
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rujasu posted:I don't see any real correlation between Batista and good or bad numbers there. Royal Rumble doesn't count, the average fan doesn't know ahead of time who will win the Rumble. WrestleMania always had the best buyrate of the year. The Batista/HHH number was absolutely huge for Mania. Mania might always be the biggest PPV of the year but the number could vary greatly depending on the draws. Hedgehog Pie posted:I remember WM 19 being good but I think in the terms of draws it was really hurt by them pushing Vince vs Hogan over everything else and it turns out that people don't actually want to see Vince in the ring? Yeah, Vince matches never really drew very well.
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Feb 9, 2020 04:50
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Agreed, HHH is a huge draw
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