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Xealot posted:Glenn Howerton for Adam Warlock, but where Adam Warlock is still just Dennis Reynolds. Flaccid Erect Flaccid Erect
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Hundreds of years from now isn’t that far off considering what we know of civilizations and societies hundreds of years prior to now, the only way Smith’s scenario were to happen is if there was a massive event that caused millions of people in the first world civilizations to die off and the internet to disappear. The survivors would have to rebuild from the remnants and go to like, the Avengers Endgame Novelization because there would be no way to watch those movies on their obsolete medium.
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Feb 21, 2020 00:02
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Yeah I mean not to be a black-pill but this era is basically going to be looked at like how readers look at the lovely nobles who party while the city dies in Masque of the Red Death. They aren't going to give a gently caress about our dumb neolib cape movies.
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Feb 21, 2020 00:04
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teacup posted:It’s also my main argument that everyone saying DC hosed up by not introing the characters first then teaming up is wrong. Yeah, I will go to my grave saying the original way the DCEU introduced the characters (ie, a cosmic event brings everyone together and/or out of hiding at the same time) was a completely valid and appropriate way of doing it. If anything, I prefer it that way. They can always do more retconning where you have adventures with Flash in the past showing how he was working in the shadows as he discovered his abilities, but you don't need loving introductory films for every character before they team up. Isn't the big complaint that people are tired of origin stories anyway?! And wasn't Spiderman introduced into the MCU without a prior origin movie?! I swear to God, if in this new Batman movie from Reeves they reintroduce stuff from the early comics (like branding or marking criminals) that hasn't been seen in what feels like eons and online nerds climb over each other to proclaim how respectful it is to the source material, I'm going to go out into the woods and scream until my voice is gone.
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Feb 21, 2020 00:07
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ruddiger posted:Hundreds of years from now isn’t that far off considering what we know of civilizations and societies hundreds of years prior to now, the only way Smith’s scenario were to happen is if there was a massive event that caused millions of people in the first world civilizations to die off and the internet to disappear. The survivors would have to rebuild from the remnants and go to like, the Avengers Endgame Novelization because there would be no way to watch those movies on their obsolete medium. Like that dragon movie with Matthew McConaughey where their religion is based on Star Wars.
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Feb 21, 2020 00:07
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Can't wait to base my spiritual identity on a bunch of popcorn movies from a society that sat on its hands and said "but my suvs and cheap chinese poo poo!" while the world burned.
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Feb 21, 2020 00:11
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Am I gonna be the first to point out that the magic hammer comes from an existing centuries-old religion, which itself merged with aspects of Christianity? So basically Smith’s theory is that people will somehow get mixed up and believe Captain America is a character from the Prose Edda.
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Feb 21, 2020 00:32
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They need to make an episode of What If but the plot is just Iron Man 2 before studio meddling.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Am I gonna be the first to point out that the magic hammer comes from an existing centuries-old religion, which itself merged with aspects of Christianity? Nah someone brought up Norse mythology a bit above
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Feb 21, 2020 00:50
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Am I gonna be the first to point out that the magic hammer comes from an existing centuries-old religion, which itself merged with aspects of Christianity? Well, the US is rapidly sliding into white nationalism, so a mythic story about how a paragon of (white) American exceptionalism is anointed by the Norse Gods as their equal sounds about right. I'm sure this would be right up some neo-Nazis alley.
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Feb 21, 2020 01:05
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Dutch Tom recently said in an interview if his spidey could wish someone back from the dead he would pick Tony Stark over Uncle Ben  https://twitter.com/getFANDOM/status/1230229104177233920?s=20
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Feb 21, 2020 01:06
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I love my dead monopolistic boss.
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Feb 21, 2020 01:08
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McCloud posted:Dutch Tom recently said in an interview if his spidey could wish someone back from the dead he would pick Tony Stark over Uncle Ben The MCU rots your soul. This Spider-Man should have stayed dust.
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Feb 21, 2020 01:20
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Should have said uncle ben...played by RDJ.
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Feb 21, 2020 01:26
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apparently the actual quote is that Tom wants to work with RDJ again so take from that what you will
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Aces High posted:apparently the actual quote is that Tom wants to work with RDJ again so take from that what you will The actual question was if Parker had once chance to bring someone back for 24 hours, who would he chose: Stark, Uncle Ben, his parents, or Gwen Stacy. Holland actually starts to say "Uncle" but catches himself and 100% affirmably says Tony Stark lmao. Then he gives the caveat that it's because he'd love to work with RDJ again. Still, in context of the Spider-Man's storied history, it's kind of hilarious that Holland forcefully stays on brand.
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Feb 21, 2020 01:50
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Don’t worry Tom I’m sure they’ll back that money dump truck up again cause they ran out of ideas after Endgame.
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Violator posted:Like that dragon movie with Matthew McConaughey where their religion is based on Star Wars.
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Guy A. Person posted:It just ends up this bizarre half-measure where Vanko Sr.'s big crime is that he tried to profit off of his technology which is in contrast to Stark because...?? IIRC that was going to be the original direction of the movie, that Stark senior was going to be an rear end in a top hat that stole all his ideas from Vanko senior, and was the main thing that was changed about it among others.
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teagone posted:The actual question was if Parker had once chance to bring someone back for 24 hours, who would he chose: Stark, Uncle Ben, his parents, or Gwen Stacy. Holland actually starts to say "Uncle" but catches himself and 100% affirmably says Tony Stark lmao. Then he gives the caveat that it's because he'd love to work with RDJ again. Still, in context of the Spider-Man's storied history, it's kind of hilarious that Holland forcefully stays on brand. I mean, it'd be a lot easier to see Stark die again after 24 hours than Uncle Ben. 
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Wait I forgot to rank them. S-tier: Winter Soldier Thor: Ragnarok Guardians of the Galaxy 2 First Avenger A-tier: Spider-Man: Homecoming Spider-Man: Far from Home Guardians of the Galaxy Captain Marvel Black Panther B-tier: Ant-Man and the Wasp Civil War Dr. Strange Incredible Hulk Ant-Man Endgame C-tier: Thor Infinity War Iron Man Iron Man 3 Thor: The Dark World Avengers Marvel-owes-me-a-refund-tier: Iron Man 2 Age of Ultron
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Marvel movies ranked from most to least problematic: Thor 1: Loki is genetically predisposed to trickery and lies because he's half Frost Giant, a race characterized as inherently savage and primitive, but able to pass as Asgardian. He uses that passing privilege to foment a revolution among the oppressed Frost Giants, and this is portrayed as bad. The film also promotes monarchism. Iron Man 1: pro-drones as long as the right technocrats have them Guardians of the Galaxy: Ronan is Hamas Iron Man 2: whitewashes notorious white supremacist Walt Disney, continues the pro-drone sentiment of the first, and has a subplot about how Russians are degenerates(except Scarlett Johansson, she's hot and works for America), but it's so scattered and incoherent it's not quite as effective as the first Avengers: just sort of poo poo in general Ant-Man: Scott is a father's rights MRA but it does touch on the difficulties convicts have returning to society Captain America 1: Jingoist but it's WW2 so that's kind of OK Captain America 2: the PATRIOT Act is portrayed as a fascist plot by crypto-Nazis. Woke by comparison Spider-Man Homecoming: Vulture is a victim of Stark's monopolization of the New York City economy which Spider-man perpetuates as a Stark charter school kid/unpaid superintern, but he is also a small business tyrant. Shades of gray, most woke so far.
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In what way is Scott Lang an MRA? Like, there isn't a single instance where he complains about his wife having custody, and he does his honest best to meet the requirements set by her. Like, that's a major plot point.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Glenn I see playing more of a Star Fox type character Not sure if you mean the Marvel Starfox or the Nintendo Star Fox.
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McCloud posted:Dutch Tom recently said in an interview if his spidey could wish someone back from the dead he would pick Tony Stark over Uncle Ben Uncle Ben has had exactly zero impact on this version of spider-man. All three spider-man movie versions are different, and they have nothing to do with the spider-man from the comics.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Why do these guys end up like this? Rofl
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Grendels Dad posted:In what way is Scott Lang an MRA? Like, there isn't a single instance where he complains about his wife having custody, and he does his honest best to meet the requirements set by her. Like, that's a major plot point. What they said. There is also a good bit on blended families and difficulty adjusting to not evil step parents, trying to live up to expectations Vs forging your own life, and of course, moving on from past events. Also the effects of arrogance and assholery on the people around you.
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Why does everyone hate Chris Pratt now?
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Oasx posted:Why does everyone hate Chris Pratt now? Religious Republican Edit: More specifically though, a terrible blockbuster lead
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Oasx posted:Uncle Ben has had exactly zero impact on this version of spider-man. All three spider-man movie versions are different, and they have nothing to do with the spider-man from the comics. it's sort of amazing how true this is and how little people seem to care about that fact. Like obviously he gets mentioned but everyone was so excited that they were dispensing with a retelling of the origin and it seems like not telling that story has kinda sidelined that part of Spider-Man's character. It doesn't help that he had a different dead father figure in Far From Home who was definitely not Uncle Ben, and was in fact kind of a terrible role model for a teenage superhero.
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DC Murderverse posted:it's sort of amazing how true this is and how little people seem to care about that fact. Like obviously he gets mentioned but everyone was so excited that they were dispensing with a retelling of the origin and it seems like not telling that story has kinda sidelined that part of Spider-Man's character. It doesn't help that he had a different dead father figure in Far From Home who was definitely not Uncle Ben, and was in fact kind of a terrible role model for a teenage superhero. Yeah, I mean, your last part is the issue. A Spider-Man without Uncle Ben is doable, but turning the MCU's Tony Stark into their Spider-Man's Uncle Ben feels tragic.
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Oasx posted:Uncle Ben has had exactly zero impact on this version of spider-man. All three spider-man movie versions are different, and they have nothing to do with the spider-man from the comics. I'm fine with making some changes to the character, if it serves a larger narrative purpose. What's the narrative purpose of replacing Uncle Ben with Tony Stark, aside from a cold calculated decision to milk RDJs good standing with the audience? It turns him from a self made superhero struggling to juggle school, work, personal life and web-swinging into a trust fund baby. Hollands spider-man is bascially "50 Shades of Gray" for nerds
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I enjoy Tom Holland as Spiderman.i would like to see more emphasis on how he and Aunt May support each other (emotionally, financially, academically etc) and I think they'd do really well. Except lol, no IRONMAN.
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McCloud posted:I'm fine with making some changes to the character, if it serves a larger narrative purpose. What's the narrative purpose of replacing Uncle Ben with Tony Stark, aside from a cold calculated decision to milk RDJs good standing with the audience? It turns him from a self made superhero struggling to juggle school, work, personal life and web-swinging into a trust fund baby. Hollands spider-man is bascially "50 Shades of Gray" for nerds
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Feb 21, 2020 11:41
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Seeing a lot of people on here cold on age of Ultron is making me very excited to watch infinity War tonight
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Seeing a lot of people on here cold on age of Ultron is making me very excited to watch infinity War tonight Prepare for impaired Vision.
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Vision, so good they did him in twice.
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Grendels Dad posted:But he keeps the berd. Maybe I'm forgetting but I thought I remember reading at the time that Vanko having a parrot was something Rourke insisted on.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I mean it's kindof core to the narrative of both MCU Spiderman films? In the first he's trying to prove himself while in the second he's struggling to live up to the massive expectations of him. Struggling to live up to massive expectations is so fuckin bourgeois.
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