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Ugly In The Morning posted:He's theoretically like a thermodynamic version of Magneto but that only gets explored rarely. Has he had any good what-ifs where they just go nuts with his powers? One time Emma took control of him and really went wild with his powers in order to stop an attack.
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ZZZorcerer posted:Isn’t his power “has wings and fly”? Like... without plot armor some goons with machine guns would just drop him from air (that is true for a whole lot of heroes though) He also owns a bazooka.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:He's theoretically like a thermodynamic version of Magneto but that only gets explored rarely. Has he had any good what-ifs where they just go nuts with his powers? There's that Marjorie Liu arc in Astonishing X-Men where he goes world-conquering nuts for a hot minute. I remember he has to be talked down, rather than fought; at one point, he beats Thor clean in a one-on-one.
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Infinitum posted:I remember reading this back in the day, and Emma basically unleashes all of Bobby's potential to give him a glimpse of what he could become. I wonder what issue that was from. I always thought the "Bobby's potential" thing was started by him fighting Mikhail Rasputin in Uncanny X-Men #292, in this panel, after Mikhail uses his energy manipulating powers to turn Iceman forcefully into a puddle of water.  Next time he ends up using this is in Uncanny X-Men #300, oneshotting some acolyte: 
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Scott Summers has also never been wrong.
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Toshimo posted:The television show? I was sad to see this go so far off the rails, the woman playing Medusa and the FX they did for the hair was really good. Shame about literally everything else though 
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Pacra posted:I wonder what issue that was from. I always thought the "Bobby's potential" thing was started by him fighting Mikhail Rasputin in Uncanny X-Men #292, in this panel, after Mikhail uses his energy manipulating powers to turn Iceman forcefully into a puddle of water. I know it's the 90s, but  this art...
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Feb 22, 2020 06:02
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PantsOptional posted:I know it's the 90s, but So there you go.
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Feb 22, 2020 06:48
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Speaking candidly as someone who never thought Jim Lee was quite all that it looks like a passable imitation.
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InsertPotPun posted:like EVERY mutant could kill millions before being stopped. if they could be stopped. the only reason comics work is because they have a benevolent creator. in reality we'd all be murdered by the first bulletproof mutant who wanted to before the x-men got out of bed that morning.
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Flesh Forge posted:I was sad to see this go so far off the rails, the woman playing Medusa and the FX they did for the hair was really good. Shame about literally everything else though And that budget buster, of course, is why they had to shave her head early on. Still, I know you ain't baggin' on Lockjaw. He was about the only reason to sit through that whole show. I read, though, that the guy who played Black Bolt developed his own sign language to use for the role, so that's pretty neat.
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Yeah if Superman was real he'd be real sloppy with the probations, for sure.
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Pacra posted:I wonder what issue that was from. I always thought the "Bobby's potential" thing was started by him fighting Mikhail Rasputin in Uncanny X-Men #292, in this panel, after Mikhail uses his energy manipulating powers to turn Iceman forcefully into a puddle of water. Infinitum posted:I remember reading this back in the day, and Emma basically unleashes all of Bobby's potential to give him a glimpse of what he could become. Art aside, I feel that stuff like this are better examples of Iceman being badass. They show growth from being pushed and pressured and his unwillingness to back down. Being on the ropes and taking your licks is badass. Whereas I can't get behind stuff like seeing Iceman waltz in and tear off a man's arm because his lady friend got fridged as being badass. It's just so overdone that it feels played out even when the gay guy does it.
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InsertPotPun posted:thus proving my point: you give a regular person just a little bit of power and they'll abuse it for their own entertainment and no one will say poo poo to them. if this person had superman's power they'd be pulling arms off people for fun. power doesn't make you into anything, it reveals who you are, if you're an rear end in a top hat who will abuse even the tiniest bit of power for their own amusement you're not a good person, you're a bad person who happens to be powerless. sorry to bother the thread lol get the gently caress outta here
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Tin Can Hit Man posted:Whereas I can't get behind stuff like seeing Iceman waltz in and tear off a man's arm because his lady friend got fridged as being badass. It's just so overdone that it feels played out even when the gay guy does it. Some characters can be grim and gritty, and some characters just can't. Iceman needs to stay in his lane.
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InsertPotPun posted:thus proving my point: you give a regular person just a little bit of power and they'll abuse it for their own entertainment and no one will say poo poo to them. if this person had superman's power they'd be pulling arms off people for fun. power doesn't make you into anything, it reveals who you are, if you're an rear end in a top hat who will abuse even the tiniest bit of power for their own amusement you're not a good person, you're a bad person who happens to be powerless. sorry to bother the thread lmao
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Jubilee, drunk on power, that sound her power makes from the 90's cartoon deafening pierced by screams as she mows down anti-mutant demonstrators. "Happy 4th of July" she mutters through a punisher like grimace.
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Eye Boy could kill you and everyone you love before the cops could even show up
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InsertPotPun posted:thus proving my point: you give a regular person just a little bit of power and they'll abuse it for their own entertainment and no one will say poo poo to them. if this person had superman's power they'd be pulling arms off people for fun. power doesn't make you into anything, it reveals who you are, if you're an rear end in a top hat who will abuse even the tiniest bit of power for their own amusement you're not a good person, you're a bad person who happens to be powerless. sorry to bother the thread I probed somebody for saying Roger Rabbit was a bad movie and I thought it was really funny.
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Pacra posted:
"Some acolyte"!? Such disrespect for Frenzy!
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I like that they're trading Womps and Fwommps back and forth.
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Roth posted:I probed somebody for saying Roger Rabbit was a bad movie and I thought it was really funny. That seems like a reasonable thing to do.
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When I am made moderator you will all suffer
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-Posts a thinly veiled racist screed against a fictional minority, gets probed for it- "Wow that just proves my point"
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InsertPotPun posted:thus proving my point: you give a regular person just a little bit of power and they'll abuse it for their own entertainment and no one will say poo poo to them. if this person had superman's power they'd be pulling arms off people for fun. power doesn't make you into anything, it reveals who you are, if you're an rear end in a top hat who will abuse even the tiniest bit of power for their own amusement you're not a good person, you're a bad person who happens to be powerless. sorry to bother the thread 
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Kalli posted:Jubilee, drunk on power, that sound her power makes from the 90's cartoon deafening pierced by screams as she mows down anti-mutant demonstrators. "Happy 4th of July" she mutters through a punisher like grimace. I remember some goofball thing from around the time Gen X started up where her powers were supposed to be capable of creating the equivalent of a nuclear fusion bomb and Emma Frost saying she was the most powerful mutant of them all or something like that. I believe she also straight-up was exploding space-ships during the Age of Apocalypse. Jubilee, everybody! Let's give it up for Jubilee.
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Not gonna lie would very much like to see Jubilee blowing up spaceships with Nuclear Fireworks
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Yeah, nah, that ship done sailed. All anyone remembers is her shooting sparks on the Animated Series and that's all anyone will expect her to be able to do.
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Flesh Forge posted:When I am made moderator you will all suffer idgi
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Doom cares not if you dgi
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It's Bendis trying to create a history of bad blood between The Hood and Doom so he can crowbar the Hood into one last story before his exclusivity deal with DC kicked in.
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How Wonderful! posted:I remember some goofball thing from around the time Gen X started up where her powers were supposed to be capable of creating the equivalent of a nuclear fusion bomb and Emma Frost saying she was the most powerful mutant of them all or something like that. I believe she also straight-up was exploding space-ships during the Age of Apocalypse. Jubilee, everybody! Let's give it up for Jubilee. what's up with the late 90s and writers deciding to have Emma Frost go around telling other X-Men that actually, their powers are world-destroyingly powerful and they're just too stupid or lazy to use them right
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Alaois posted:what's up with the late 90s and writers deciding to have Emma Frost go around telling other X-Men that actually, their powers are world-destroyingly powerful and they're just too stupid or lazy to use them right Yeah I don't know, her track record up to that point was, I believe, leading a team featuring the likes of the mighty Beef and then getting all of them killed. I liked her development throughout Gen X for what it was but I feel like any precedent of her being a pedagogical whiz or especially good mutant talent scout was just wishful thinking.
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Alaois posted:what's up with the late 90s and writers deciding to have Emma Frost go around telling other X-Men that actually, their powers are world-destroyingly powerful and they're just too stupid or lazy to use them right They were both written by Scott Lobdell probably. He wrote the Uncanny issue with Iceman and the first 30 some odd issues of Generation X.
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Alaois posted:what's up with the late 90s and writers deciding to have Emma Frost go around telling other X-Men that actually, their powers are world-destroyingly powerful and they're just too stupid or lazy to use them right "Cipher, you must listen to me. You are not using your full potential, and without it, all of mutantkind will be lost. Let me delve into your mind and remove the psionic blocks placed upon you by Xavier so you may unleash the TRUE power of linguistics upon the only Ultra Omega mutant on the planet and your only rival... Beak."
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"Skin listen to me. You have so much loving skin. Jesus christ that's a lot of skin. loving hell why is your mutant power just 'extra skin'. That's such a useless loving power, but if you used it correctly you could be an Omega level mutant and cover people with your skin. Christ it just loving creeps me out thinking about it. Urgh... 'skin'" I always love the mutants that just had loving useless powers.
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Alaois posted:what's up with the late 90s and writers deciding to have Emma Frost go around telling other X-Men that actually, their powers are world-destroyingly powerful and they're just too stupid or lazy to use them right Yeah, I despise that poo poo. Not only is it insulting to the character's intelligence, it's a completely unnecessary raising of the stakes and just a weird idea of how superpowers work. Iceman's powers have nothing to do with how physics "really work", his powers are he shoots ice beams because it's a loving comic book. Spider-man doesn't have the muscle mass necessary to do any of the poo poo he does, his tissues have no ability to take the beatings he takes, his wall clinging defies all physics, but that's because he's a superhero. His powers are made up fantasy that disregard science other than a passing plausible deniability here and there. And no one would ever suggest that if he tried really hard he could web swing to the moon.
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Lurdiak posted:Yeah, I despise that poo poo. Not only is it insulting to the character's intelligence, it's a completely unnecessary raising of the stakes and just a weird idea of how superpowers work. Iceman's powers have nothing to do with how physics "really work", his powers are he shoots ice beams because it's a loving comic book. Spider-man doesn't have the muscle mass necessary to do any of the poo poo he does, his tissues have no ability to take the beatings he takes, his wall clinging defies all physics, but that's because he's a superhero. His powers are made up fantasy that disregard science other than a passing plausible deniability here and there. I don't know, I'm pretty sure if he tried real hard he could web swing to the moon.
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Alaois posted:Eye Boy could kill you and everyone you love before the cops could even show up This but canonically. 
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