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It will be so worth it to see Tifa shooting lasers though so I will hold my breath.
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Not a big fan of the FFXV style gameplay and hope it doesn't change the game so much that it lacks the depth and charm that it once had. The materia was the neatest bit of the original. Game is definitely pretty as hell though.
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Mar 3, 2020 18:26
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I wouldnt be surprised if they just dropped the enemy skill materia and just made one of the characters a blue mage. Red XIII or Vincent could work well enough
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Mar 3, 2020 18:27
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I think "magic feels clunky" issue I have comes from the combination of: - Magic takes both ATB and MP - Restoring MP in combat takes ATB, too - Characters gain very little ATB when you aren't actively controlling them It adds up to make it feel extra hard to actually use the magic you need to use. Obviously we're supposed to be switching characters very frequently--that's what the low ATB gain for AI characters seems designed to incentivize--and I think it might also feel different when you can decide who has what materia equipped in the full game. I don't know what I'd actually want to change, though. I think making items not require ATB might be swinging too far in the other direction, for example.
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Mar 3, 2020 18:32
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XV was pretty bad in that respect because items let you sandbag your way through anything. There is only one way to game over in XV and that is to get downed and then refuse to use a phoenix down.
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Mar 3, 2020 18:37
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It's the first 45-60 minutes of an rpg with talent trees and equipment and weapon skills, I'd wager there's a fair amount of +Speed poo poo you can get to bump up your characters. What we've played is just the baseline.
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Mar 3, 2020 18:38
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Framboise posted:Not a big fan of the FFXV style gameplay and hope it doesn't change the game so much that it lacks the depth and charm that it once had. The materia was the neatest bit of the original. Something you don't see in Chapter 1 (the demo) but do see a little later is that having Fire materia connected to Elemental materia shows the fire on Cloud's sword. If anything, the materia system is going to be more in-depth. If you're wondering where I saw this, it's at like 02:55:45 in https://www.twitch.tv/videos/561141278. Weapons even have skill trees and unique abilities, and allow you to use them throughout the game, if you want. This video also goes pretty in-depth into things that happen in Chapter 2, including a lot of new stuff added. So avoid it if you don't want spoilers. Sector 5's reactor is Chapter 7, by the way, if that helps with seeing how the game progresses. The guy in the aforementioned video says Chapter 2's escape from Sector 8 is like 45 minutes. Seemed he was talking specifically about the chase sequence. And here is an image of the materia screen, I think: 
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Mar 3, 2020 18:45
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exploring the reactor in the demo was awesome as hell and gave me a rush the combat however was really disappointing. too much movement and chaos to allow me to really strategize like in a traditional rpg, but with controls too clunky for me to really get my action rpg/dark souls groove going. it's an uncomfortable midpoint between 2 genres that for me drags down the experience
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Mar 3, 2020 18:47
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For FFVII pros, was it ever explained why Cloud is good at fighting despite not being a SOLDIER?
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Mar 3, 2020 19:01
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WaltherFeng posted:For FFVII pros, was it ever explained why Cloud is good at fighting despite not being a SOLDIER? He was still in the Shinra army, and he was injected with Jenova cells and experimented on by Hojo prior to FF7, which is part of why his memories are all hosed up.
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Mar 3, 2020 19:02
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WaltherFeng posted:For FFVII pros, was it ever explained why Cloud is good at fighting despite not being a SOLDIER? No you see Cloud is in SOLDIER, it's clearly explained in the demo.
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Mar 3, 2020 19:03
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WaltherFeng posted:For FFVII pros, was it ever explained why Cloud is good at fighting despite not being a SOLDIER? He was given superpower juice
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Mar 3, 2020 19:06
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Might as well change the title here to spoiler thread...
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TommyGun85 posted:Might as well change the title here to spoiler thread... The game came out in 1997...
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I'm really looking forward to the characterization from the remake. The demo sold the aspect of AVALANCHE being a bunch of amateurs and Cloud being a renegade sword for hire in a way the original didn't, maybe because of the abstract character design, maybe because of the lack of dialogue.
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GoGoGadget posted:The game came out in 1997... actually it’s not out yet. they just put out a demo
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GoGoGadget posted:The game came out in 1997... Hell this happened 15 years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rFplIzLskw
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I'm really looking forward to the characterization from the remake. The demo sold the aspect of AVALANCHE being a bunch of amateurs and Cloud being a renegade sword for hire in a way the original didn't, maybe because of the abstract character design, maybe because of the lack of dialogue. I hope there's more "Stamp" moments. Something odd that's not really important to the narrative, but you when start piecing it together it gives the character a lot of personality.
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Mar 3, 2020 19:18
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Electric Phantasm posted:I hope there's more "Stamp" moments. Something odd that's not really important to the narrative, but you when start piecing it together it gives the character a lot of personality. I hope Barret sees Red XIII for the first time and laments busting out the Stamp jokes too soon.
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LadyPictureShow posted:I hope Barret sees Red XIII for the first time and laments busting out the Stamp jokes too soon. Barrett is going to suggest naming him Stamp. Red XIII will have none of that poo poo and reveal he can talk.
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WaltherFeng posted:For FFVII pros, was it ever explained why Cloud is good at fighting despite not being a SOLDIER? He starts at level 7. He's not good at fighting, everyone else is just a rube.
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Mar 3, 2020 19:37
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When they said that the first chapter of FF7R will be about the same length as FF13 do you think they meant it like you can blow through the entire story in 30 hours or mess around in Gran Midgar and take 60 hours to beat it.
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Mar 3, 2020 19:40
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GoGoGadget posted:The game came out in 1997... There's missing the boat, and then there's missing the several other boats that came to pick up the people that missed the first one. Story is 23 years old at this point, and available way too many ways.
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Mar 3, 2020 19:42
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AngryRobotsInc posted:There's missing the boat, and then there's missing the several other boats that came to pick up the people that missed the first one. Story is 22 years old at this point, and available way too many ways. Game is going to change things. Don't be a dick.
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Mar 3, 2020 19:43
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ImpAtom posted:Game is going to change things. Don't be a dick. I get that much. But spoilers are going to happen in a thread like this. It's a remake of a popular game old enough to drink.
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Mar 3, 2020 19:45
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The Aeris LIVES twist is just SO well-known and so iconic to the original game that it almost makes me think they’ll try to flip it a little, or at the very least try to catch you off guard with when it happens.
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Mar 3, 2020 19:47
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ImpAtom posted:Game is going to change things. Don't be a dick. yeah but the specific change in question happens 30 minutes in and is in the demo that 70% of the people who play this game will have already played
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Electric Phantasm posted:I hope there's more "Stamp" moments. Something odd that's not really important to the narrative, but you when start piecing it together it gives the character a lot of personality. best part is you know cloud had no loving clue what he was talking about until he actually saw one of those posters for himself just imagining him standing there for several seconds until the gears finish turning he makes a mental note to double his fee
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Mar 3, 2020 19:52
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It is unreasonable to ask for the original game to be unspoiled and be kept in tags. That said, there's also no need to be a dick and just list everything that ever happens in the original when someone who hasn't played before strolls in. And obviously everything new after the demo once the game releases/from previews ought to be tagged. If you've never played the original game and want to go in fresh, then you probably should stay away from here because comparisons and analyses will be made.
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Mar 3, 2020 19:54
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ImpAtom posted:Game is going to change things. Don't be a dick. The "spoilers" in question are from the old game, so if the Remake changes things, it isn't a spoiler for the Remake, is it? And by the way, it seems like a lot of stuff will be changed. So prepare yourselves for that, because I have already seen a lot of people super upset about the first mission's "change." Even the first meeting with Aerith is changed to include the fate ghosts or whatever, and visions of Sephiroth GoGoGadget fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Mar 3, 2020 |
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exquisite tea posted:The Aeris LIVES twist is just SO well-known and so iconic to the original game that it almost makes me think they’ll try to flip it a little, or at the very least try to catch you off guard with when it happens. METATRON LIVES!
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exquisite tea posted:The Aeris LIVES twist is just SO well-known and so iconic to the original game that it almost makes me think they’ll try to flip it a little, or at the very least try to catch you off guard with when it happens. That or lean super hard the other way and have an anime style decapitation
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MonsieurChoc posted:BASCH LIVES! ftfy
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I meant just put spoilers in the title so people stop loving around with spoiler tags and new people will know it coming in. Of course its unreasonable to not spoil things when its 25 years old, but its a nice courtesy to people before they read the thread.
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Mar 3, 2020 20:00
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Hi! I'm Aeris #2!
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MisterZimbu posted:Hi! I'm Aeris #2! https://youtu.be/0w9DUTcAI0o
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Mar 3, 2020 20:05
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Harrow posted:I think "magic feels clunky" issue I have comes from the combination of: The thing to change is AI need to generate more ATB on their own problem solved Also IMO i'd prefer it if your inputs couldn't be interrupted. Or if they can be interrupted, make them go off instantly when I select it. There's delay and if you get hit during the delay it gets cancelled, just feels bad.
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Bregor posted:ftfy Different reference, but it works.
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I've decided to ban spoilers from every final fantasy game in this thread.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:That or lean super hard the other way and have an anime style decapitation Only if Sephiroth descends from the ceiling in his best Jack Black voice.
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