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To be clear I was not calling your winrate into question, I was pointing out that if anyone were to see quits 50% of the time if would be you, but you don't.
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veni veni veni posted:I’m joking, but let me rephrase. Close to half of the time, if your team is doing well, most of the other team will quit early. I don’t think that’s an overestimation? That’s a huge overestimation.
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Mar 4, 2020 21:09
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I'm only referring to mass quitting by teams, not individual players.
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Mar 4, 2020 21:10
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Fart Car '97 posted:So what are you seeing that me with my whopping 0.15 better winrate average, isn't? I told you I was just loving around I have no idea how much you win and don’t care tbh. I’m just saying that from what I see is close to half the time a losing team quits early. Also fwiw I played alone last week so it was pretty much up to the gods. If I play with goons we win probably 80% of the time because I play with people who are better than me lol.
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Mar 4, 2020 21:12
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Mister Facetious posted:
Yeah. See, I’m including when 4 guys drop and you are stuck playing against 2 people for 5 straight minutes while the game tries to fill the team out and it’s boring as hell. If we are talking about the entire team dropping the number is much lower.
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Mar 4, 2020 21:14
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I also play solo. The idea that 50% of the time 3-4 people quit out of a losing 6v6 game is just nuts and you have no numbers to prove it whatsoever, but I guess it was never really a discussion to begin with if you're just pulling numbers out of thin air 
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Mar 4, 2020 21:14
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Fart Car '97 posted:I also play solo. Back when Javes was playing blops 2, this was literally every round. * Constant sounds of Lodestar strikes *
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Mar 4, 2020 21:18
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lol the gooncrew I played with for blops 2 (I think it was 2? Whatever one had the insane SPAS) had like 95% win rate; we often ended up finishing the game against 1-3 people, it sucked. It was super fun to run into other stacks though, those were always super sweaty fun games.
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Mar 4, 2020 21:25
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The only people I see quit are the 1-2 guys that are carrying a team of absolute fuckups. Hell, I've quit KC games because I have 13 confirms, and everyone else on my team has 2-3. I'm not going to stick around beating my dick with a hammer as I drag a bunch of morons over the finish line.
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Mar 4, 2020 21:25
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MF_James posted:lol the gooncrew I played with for blops 2 (I think it was 2? Whatever one had the insane SPAS) had like 95% win rate; we often ended up finishing the game against 1-3 people, it sucked. It was super fun to run into other stacks though, those were always super sweaty fun games. The 360 gooncrew on MW3 or whichever one had Clan Wars maintained like a 98% win rate for the year we played.
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Mar 4, 2020 21:28
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Beastie posted:The only people I see quit are the 1-2 guys that are carrying a team of absolute fuckups. Yeah, sometimes I figure “this is going to count as a loss either way, I may as well see if I can match make into a round that’ll actually be fun”
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Mar 4, 2020 21:28
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Fart Car '97 posted:I also play solo. You have the exact same amount of numbers to disprove it. Maybe I’ve just had worse luck than you? Ive said I should have put a caveat on my original 50% claim. E: and I said I normally never play solo so you totally missed the point there. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Mar 4, 2020 |
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Mar 4, 2020 21:32
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Yeah, sometimes I figure “this is going to count as a loss either way, I may as well see if I can match make into a round that’ll actually be fun” Pretty much. No point wasting ~10 minutes getting stomped while your team fails to capture/kill/move. If it's more frustrating than fun, I stop playing.
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Mar 4, 2020 21:57
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I do it too sometimes. I don’t think it’s a failure of the players. it’s a failure on the game for not giving people a reason to stick around.
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Mar 4, 2020 22:07
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i consider it a feature; it's player freedom of choice. If you're not having fun you should be allowed to take your ball and go to another playground.
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Mar 4, 2020 22:19
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I suppose, but the end result is matches often being dull/uneven
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Mar 4, 2020 22:22
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The sports analogy is kind of funny. can you even imagine one team just pouting and walking off a basketball court when they start losing? Even children don’t do that.
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Mar 4, 2020 22:27
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veni veni veni posted:The sports analogy is kind of funny. can you even imagine one team just pouting and walking off a basketball court when they start losing? Even children don’t do that. Children very much do that. Teams don't because they have contractual obligations with owners, the league, advertisers, networks... Your opinion is that if people have the misfortune to suck, then they should suck it up and take their deserved punishment, or receive a worse one. I can't imagine why developers haven't implemented that as a method to retain players... 
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Mar 4, 2020 22:32
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I love the R9, but only on shipment
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Mar 4, 2020 22:34
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jerman999 posted:I love the R9, but only on shipment Hell yes, a kindred soul  Shoothouse isn't bad either, or the boiler room on the train yard map. One of my favorites is holding upstairs above the kitchen on Petrograd in Dom.
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Mar 4, 2020 22:37
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Mister Facetious posted:Children very much do that. Teams don't because they have contractual obligations with owners, the league, advertisers, networks... I didn’t say that. I don’t think people should be “punished” for quitting. I don’t think people should get progression for a round they didn’t see through though. It’s not some e bushido thing about principles I just think it’s bad for a game to frequently have partially empty rounds. Lol I don’t know what kids you played sports with but I’ve never in my life seen anyone just walk off in the middle of any sort of sports game.
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Mar 4, 2020 22:41
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veni veni veni posted:I didn’t say that. I don’t think people should be “punished” for quitting. I don’t think people should get progression for a round they didn’t see through though. This is literally a punishment though.
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Mar 4, 2020 22:50
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veni veni veni posted:I didn’t say that. I don’t think people should be “punished” for quitting. I don’t think people should get progression for a round they didn’t see through though. it won't matter if you zero out exp for the match they're in if they can join a new one in less than sixty seconds. As for games I've seen kids quit: Road hockey, basketball, house league soccer in grade school, Smash, Mario Kart, Street fighter, mortal Kombat, call of Duty, tag, freeze tag, magic the gathering, mageknight, chess... Want me to go on?
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Mar 4, 2020 22:56
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Mister Facetious posted:it won't matter if you zero out exp for the match they're in if they can join a new one in less than sixty seconds. For real. Vontae Davis of the Buffalo Bills retired from the sport of football during halftime of a game, and LeGarrette Blount of the Pittsburgh Steelers walked off before the end of a Monday night game a few years back. Sometimes losing sucks and sometimes people just quit.
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Mar 4, 2020 23:06
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Strobe posted:This is literally a punishment though. Not giving someone a reward for something they didn’t do isn’t punishment.
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Mar 4, 2020 23:13
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ada shatan posted:For real. Vontae Davis of the Buffalo Bills retired from the sport of football during halftime of a game, and LeGarrette Blount of the Pittsburgh Steelers walked off before the end of a Monday night game a few years back. Sometimes losing sucks and sometimes people just quit. According to sb nation, pippen benched himself in a final they ultimately won, because he didn't appreciate the coach picking a younger up and comer to clinch it.
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Mar 4, 2020 23:16
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veni veni veni posted:Not giving someone a reward for something they didn’t do isn’t punishment. Time played is progression. Finishing games doesn't do anything to it. You totally do not understand how progression in this game works.
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Mar 4, 2020 23:24
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I do totally understand how it works and I’m saying it’s dumb. By rewarding people for quitting the same as if they had stuck it out results in a bunch of bad and half empty matches.
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Mar 4, 2020 23:35
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veni veni veni posted:I do totally understand how it works and I’m saying it’s dumb. By rewarding people for quitting the same as if they had stuck it out results in a bunch of bad and half empty matches. So your solution, which is not a punishment, is to penalize players by removing something to discourage bad behavior? 
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veni veni veni posted:I do totally understand how it works and I’m saying it’s dumb. By rewarding people for quitting the same as if they had stuck it out results in a bunch of bad and half empty matches. You can quit and join a new game in a minute or less; it doesn't matter if players don't get exp for the match they just played, they'll get it for the next one anyway. The only way you stop quitting is by making it more inconvenient than suffering the emotional drain of losing the match. The only way you stop piracy is by making it more inconvenient than clicking "buy now". At which point they quit out anyway, and play something else until the penalty is gone, lowering the overall playerbase. Good job.
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Mar 4, 2020 23:42
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if we're talking about removing my ability to solo queue for a final match at the end of the night to clear up the last kill/action of a challenge then immediately backing out once I've done that then I Have Opinions
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Mar 5, 2020 00:13
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I actually like it when a team of 4 quits and its just me and another player. If we are getting stomped I at least get a ton of kills to end the map and salvage some xp or kills towards a camo. Usually we are losing that bad because that team of players didnt play the objective at all and also sucked at camping. On the other hand, its pretty boring if the opposing team quits, but there are worse ways to spend a few minutes.
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Mar 5, 2020 00:21
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I wonder why console has so many more quitters than on PC. Is it because children play consoles?
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Mar 5, 2020 00:24
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it's great how we can make a playlist for our preferred gametypes but not for maps, when most maps here are objectively lovely but the gamemodes are okay
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Mar 5, 2020 00:28
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VulgarandStupid posted:I wonder why console has so many more quitters than on PC. Is it because children play consoles? Most likely. Parents arent gonna drop $1000 for a decent rig when they can drop $300 on an xbox and another 2 or 300 on a tv.
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Mar 5, 2020 00:31
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Utgardaloki posted:most maps here are objectively lovely  if you play core 6v6 playlists the only objectively bad map is rust. arklov is close. shipment at least serves a purpose. i would say that arklov and shipment are on the bottom of my list for opposite ends of the same reason (map size)
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Mar 5, 2020 00:34
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:
 VulgarandStupid posted:I wonder why console has so many more quitters than on PC. Is it because children play consoles? Because console owners understand that they're playing games. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Mar 5, 2020 |
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Mar 5, 2020 00:38
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Rust is just Piccadilly during a dust storm.
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Mar 5, 2020 00:42
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VulgarandStupid posted:I wonder why console has so many more quitters than on PC. Is it because children play consoles? lmao at thinking that literal children are somehow worse than figurative children, aka pc gamers.
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:
lmao what the hell i mean yeah arklov is real bad but shipment is a work of art, maybe the best multi map in CoD history. almost every 6v6 map otherwise should be in the 10v10 list, and the actual 10v10 map, the palace (the only one i ever get to play, because it rolls constantly) should be a circle of hell unto itself.
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